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So I collect Foil Kembha, Kha Regent (and other things) and I'm trading with someone at DC this weekend, see one, am immediately excited and go "How much for this?"

Now this is one of the "dealers" walking around, so I'm expecting him to give me SCG prices, but who cares, it's something I collect.

"I put it at 7 dollars"

I literally said "Get the **** out of here", closed my binder, and then said "I'd yell at you some more if my voice weren't gone." It was.

I'm normally a REALLY nice trader, even with the "dealers" at the event. Random things get me excited to trade for them and I just plain like getting new cards.

But I'll be damned the day I trade more than double what SCG is charging for something.

Edit: I forgot the best part. while I was putting away my binder, he went "I saw someone pay 10 cash for one earlier, so I'm giving you a deal"
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quote:
Originally posted by JesusChristMD:
Foil Kembha, Kha Regent

"I put it at 7 dollars"


BUAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAAAAHHHHAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAAA!

 
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Originally posted by airwalk:
MTGFanatic is good to buy from, bad to sell to.

Why was this not posted four days ago when I decided to sell to mtgfanatic?

 
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Another PE, another reminder to stick to DEs, I always have rubbish tiebreakers.

Btw, does anyone have any good reads regarding SOM/MBS sealed/draft?

 
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I've played 4 Daily Events in the past week or so, going 3-1, 3-1, 1-2 (drop), and 3-1.

I'm up to 11 QPs right now.

I've managed to have really good success in drafts with either W/x decks or G/B Infect.

If you go white, you want to draft white hard and make it your primary color, splashing only a second color. I find red or blue works best. Red gives you removal and blue gives you more flyers. Getting Leoning Skyhunters and Kemba Skyguards are key to this archetype. If I see an early Serum Raker, that can push me into blue, otherwise, I'll likely try to get the W/r deck. Kuldotha Ringleader is surprisingly good, especially if you can play T2 Leonin Skyhunter, T3 Kemba's Skyguard (attack for 2), T4 (attack for 4), T5 Kuldotha Ringleader (attack for 4), T6, attack with all three (6 in the air). I've won lots of games turn 7 and 8 on those three cards alone. Wardriver is less desirable than the Ringleader because double red conflicts with white's best flyers. You can't play T2 Wardriver, T3 Kemba's Skyguard, for example.

Glint Hawks, Glint Hawk Idol, and cheap equipment are particularly good here. Removal in Galvanic Blast and Arrest are obviously good, but Leonin Relic-Warder is surprisingly good, often making opponent choose between removing him to get a Core Prowler back, or killing a Kemba's Skyguard. If you get enough two-drop 2-power guys (even Oxida Daredevil), the value of Concussive Bolt, Rally the Forces, and even Seize the Initiative can all go up as they quickly become blowout tempo plays.

WB is bad because of black's emphasis on Infect and WG is usually underwhelming because of green's emphasis on Infect, green's lack of removal, and green's lack of evasive guys (all reasons to play red or blue instead).

GB Infect tends to be either really good or so-so, but I often draft it because it gives the best chance to get the best deck and go 3-0 (remember I'm still trying to win events to get QPs). I've been very successful lately with a pretty single-minded tactic:

1) If there is premiere removal in the pack (Go for the Throat, Spread the Sickness, Grasp of Darkness, Skinrender, Contagion Clasp, Contagion Engine) take it first.

2) If there is Viridian Claw or Bladed Pinions, take it. First Strike + Infect = unfair. Viridian Claw equips for only 1, which is a steal and Bladed Pinions gives your guys evasion, which is ridiculously good. Unless there's an infect creature who is outrageously good, I'll take these two equipment over a creature.

3) If there is ANY creature with Infect, take it.

MBS infect guys I draft in order:

Flesh-Eater Imp (I can't champion this guy enough; he absolutely is RIDICULOUS in draft, winning games all by himself)
Phyrexian Vatmother
Phyrexian Hydra
Phyrexian Crusader
Viridian Corrupter
Blight Widow
Core Prowler
Plague Myr
Septic Rats
Rot Wolf
Scourge Servant
Flensermite
Phyrexian Juggernaut

The rare infect guys are all good and I'd take them over almost anything else in the pack. After the rares, the Corrupter is card advantage and tempo; it's so good. Blightwidow stops flyers, but more importantly, the four toughness makes it really hard to stop. Plague Myr is a two-drop Infect guy AND he can let you play Scourge Servant on turn 4 or Blackcleave Goblin/Tel-Jilad Fallen/Carrion Call on turn 3. Septic Rats is quite often a 3/3, which usually costs 5 mana. Rot Wolf is seriously underrated, IMO and I like it much better than the Scourge Servant. Flensermite is a 2-drop, but the worst of all the two-drops for Infect. I will note that I once played him turn two and played Viridian Claw and equipped turn 3 and he almost went all the way.

SOM infect guys I draft in order:

Skithryx, the Blight Dragon
Hand of the Praetors
Tangle Angler
Plague Stinger
Corpse Cur
Cystbearer
Ichor Rats
Ichorclaw Myr
Blight Mamba
Necropede
Contagious Nim
Blackcleave Goblin
Tel-Jilad Fallen
Carrion Call

.
.
.

Vector Asp - he barely counts as an Infect creature as he doesn't naturally have Infect and screw up your curve if you ever have to play his ability or play him anything but turn 1, or on the same turn as you play another Infect creature (for example, on turn 4 after Contagious Nim). Having an opening hand of:

Vector Asp, Blight Mamba, Contagious Nim, Blackcleave Goblin, Forest, Swamp, Forest makes things awkward, since your plays on turns 2 through 4 are Infect guys and Vector Asp won't be poisoning your opponent until turn 5. I really, really dislike this guy unless you're seriously desperate. I will play non-Infect guys with a bigger body over this most of the time, because Tangle Mantis can hold the ground against most creatures far better than Vector Asp.

The rares are ridiculous and are taken over anything else, even removal. Tangle Angler wins games where you can just force your opponent to make 2 or three creatures block him while the rest of your team gets in there. Flying + Infect is really, really good in draft, so Plague Stinger is so good. Corpse Cur is card advantage which beats almost everything else and Cystbearer is above the curve for creatures at three mana in draft, let alone creatures with Infect. Ichor Rats can poison your opponent directly, but the one toughness means it dies to Myr, unlike Cystbearer. It's better late game, but I prefer the Cystbearer most of the time, as you can apply pressure better, in the absence of removal. Blight Mamba turn 2, Cystbearer turn 3 is one of my favorite starts (Plague Myr on turn 2, Cystbearer on turn 3 is THE best start I love).

After that, the two-drops really shine as early pressure on your opponent and Contagious Nim is better than the four-drops. The Goblin has one less power than the Fallen, but the Haste is so key; I've won many games because I've played EOT Carrion Call, then followed up with Blackcleave Goblin on my turn for 4 poison out of nowhere.

4) Draft Virulent Wound, Morbid Plunder, or green pump next. Untamed Might is better than the bottom half of the infect guys, but worse than the top half of the infect guys, IMO. Virulent Wound and Morbid Plunder are both really good, but I wouldn't take them over a creature with infect.

5) If there is a black or green creature, take it. If there is a Myr, take it. This is the right call most of the time after 1-4. There's always a real danger in B/G infect of simply not having a critical mass of creatures in the deck, so I try to overcompensate and around picks 9-12, I'll draft creatures more than anything else. Dross Ripper and Tangle Mantis don't have Infect, but they can stop you from losing a race to random Bears and Hill Giants your opponent plays.

6) Pick up other green "tricks". 5 and 6 often change places depending on how the deck is looking, but I'm including cards like Wing Puncture, Withstand Death, and Tel-Jilad Defense here that may be cards # 39 and 40 in my deck after including removal, Infect creatures, and non-infect creatures.

I've seen people play Green/not-black Infect decks, but these are usually bad ideas. Black/blue Infect can be good with the right build, but is usually strictly worse than Green/Black just because you have half as many infect creatures. White has some infect creatures in MBS, but I avoid that strategy completely. Pairing green with red can give you removal and blue can give infect guys evasion (I recently lost when some guy gave his infect guy all his equipment then played Neurok Invisimancer for the win), but GB infect is the best by far, it's not even close.

I'd also read LSV's article.

I think he overrates Fangren Marauder FAR too much, but he's won far more money than I've ever spent or won combined, so maybe he knows what he's doing more than I do.

[Edited 7 times, lastly by yakusoku on February 28, 2011]

 
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http://classic.magictraders.com/ubb/Forum3/HTML/083034.html

This kid is using stolen scans on his sales page. Buyer bewarrreee lol

 
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quote:
Originally posted by 98ViperGTS:
http://classic.magictraders.com/ubb/Forum3/HTML/083034.html

This kid is using stolen scans on his sales page. Buyer bewarrreee lol


He wouldn't send first and only wanted simul-sends.
the whole two weeks before he moves stuff is BS Imho. you can just get it first and send it his new location in a few weeks.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by Aznopium:
He wouldn't send first and only wanted simul-sends.
the whole two weeks before he moves stuff is BS Imho. you can just get it first and send it his new location in a few weeks.

I offered to pay priority shipping for him, and then I'll send priority shipping too. Take less than 1.5 weeks and he doesn't reply either.

I'm just afraid sooner or later, someone is going to get ripped.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by gaeacradle:
I offered to pay priority shipping for him, and then I'll send priority shipping too. Take less than 1.5 weeks and he doesn't reply either.

I'm just afraid sooner or later, someone is going to get ripped.


I saw what you posted and offered him the exact same thing (literally a C&P) and he also never responded.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by gaeacradle:
I offered to pay priority shipping for him, and then I'll send priority shipping too. Take less than 1.5 weeks and he doesn't reply either.

I'm just afraid sooner or later, someone is going to get ripped.


I let nder and slinga know, so hopefully they investigate and shut him down sooner than later. The Time Vault and Library of Alexandria scans belong to me, and the workshop scans came from eBay.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by yakusoku:
MBS infect guys I draft in order:

Flesh-Eater Imp (I can't champion this guy enough; he absolutely is RIDICULOUS in draft, winning games all by himself)
Phyrexian Vatmother
Phyrexian Hydra
Phyrexian Crusader
Viridian Corrupter
Blight Widow
Core Prowler
Plague Myr
Septic Rats
Rot Wolf
Scourge Servant
Flensermite

I think he overrates Fangren Marauder FAR too much, but he's won far more money than I've ever spent or won combined, so maybe he knows what he's doing more than I do.


2 Thoughts

1) Rot Wolf deserves to be higher, that card is good, no one wants to ever trade with it.

2) The Marauder is stupid. One point, I was flinging artifacts with Barrage ogre, killing their guy and gaining 5 life. This is just as good against infect since it can eat multiple guys and in an infect deck it buys you time against non-infect

 
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quote:
Originally posted by yakusoku:

MBS infect guys I draft in order:

Flesh-Eater Imp (I can't champion this guy enough; he absolutely is RIDICULOUS in draft, winning games all by himself)
Phyrexian Vatmother
Phyrexian Hydra
Phyrexian Crusader
Viridian Corrupter
Blight Widow
Core Prowler
Plague Myr
Septic Rats
Rot Wolf
Scourge Servant
Flensermite



forgot Phyrexian Juggernaut
 
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On the EDH boards on Salvation, one of the mods is arguing Sol Ring is too busted in the format and causes one of the players to mulligan to it every game. When asked about it, he says his group has infinite mulligans.

/facepalm

 
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quote:
Originally posted by sammyt125:
On the EDH boards on Salvation, one of the mods is arguing Sol Ring is too busted in the format and causes one of the players to mulligan to it every game. When asked about it, he says his group has infinite mulligans.

/facepalm


Ha, Sol Ring is already good enough. Stupidity doesn't need to make any better.

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quote:
Originally posted by fluffycow:
Why was this not posted four days ago when I decided to sell to mtgfanatic?

Haha, sorry man. We actually had a pretty decent discussion on various online stores buying/selling reputations about a month or two ago, live and learn

 
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quote:
Originally posted by Havoc Demon:
Ha, Sol Ring is already good enough. Stupidity doesn't need to make any better.


Hear her

 
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quote:
Originally posted by sammyt125:
On the EDH boards on Salvation, one of the mods is arguing Sol Ring is too busted in the format and causes one of the players to mulligan to it every game. When asked about it, he says his group has infinite mulligans.

/facepalm


Lets ban all good cards and not the infinite mulligans

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quote:
Originally posted by sammyt125:
On the EDH boards on Salvation, one of the mods is arguing Sol Ring is too busted in the format and causes one of the players to mulligan to it every game. When asked about it, he says his group has infinite mulligans.

/facepalm


I would like a laugh, you have a link to this?

 
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quote:
Originally posted by I3Iood:
I would like a laugh, you have a link to this?

This thread:

http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=277935

It is in the last few pages. The last few pages also have a cool guy that likes to craft god hands and blame Sol Ring for being to degenerate when you get to cherry pick 7 other cards for your first 4 turns.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by stu55:

1) Rot Wolf deserves to be higher, that card is good, no one wants to ever trade with it.


I realize it is very good. However, I stand by my picks list. I would take those other cards before Rot Wolf.

I am quite open to the possibility that I am greatly underestimating the Marauder. I have yet to seem him in action on either side of the table where his ability made a difference.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by sammyt125:
On the EDH boards on Salvation, one of the mods is arguing Sol Ring is too busted in the format and causes one of the players to mulligan to it every game. When asked about it, he says his group has infinite mulligans.

/facepalm


My playgroup uses infinite mulligans; the point is to get a decent hand that's playable, not a rigged hand. If they want to be really spiky, perhaps they need to consider mulligans as part of the game. >_>

 
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So I have a DCI card and number. I just saw it the other day, after not using it for years. Now I can't find it.
Will I be able to use that number, with some identification, or will I have to get a whole new card/number? Also my town is different then what it was way back then. Is there a way to have this corrected too?

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quote:
Originally posted by MeddlingMage:
So I have a DCI card and number. I just saw it the other day, after not using it for years. Now I can't find it.
Will I be able to use that number, with some identification, or will I have to get a whole new card/number? Also my town is different then what it was way back then. Is there a way to have this corrected too?

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You just need the number. You can change your address and other info by logging into www.thedci.com (if you don't have this login info, you'll have to call)

 
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quote:
Originally posted by sammyt125:
On the EDH boards on Salvation, one of the mods is arguing Sol Ring is too busted in the format and causes one of the players to mulligan to it every game. When asked about it, he says his group has infinite mulligans.

/facepalm


What did you expect from a salvation mod? :P

 
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If anybodys bored; Do you wanna hop over to deck help and help me build a Sideboard for a common/uncommon (pauper?) Standard infect deck? Thanks!
 

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