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Originally posted by MeddlingMage:
So when does MBS become tournament legal?

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Originally posted by MeddlingMage:
So when does MBS become tournament legal?

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At draft last night i went U/b. Picked up Massacre Wurm but nothing else spectacular. Lost hardcore, but in one match i Cryptoplasmed my Wurm. Attack for lethal - block and get massacred for 4 life each creature or take it?

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Originally posted by Malice327:
Reaaaaaaaaaaaally?! I get the whole needing to make a profit off of a point based have want list, but

Want:

Koth - 10 points

Have:

Koth - 19 points

is ridiculous. How does the MOTL hit squad jump all over someone posting "buying koth's for $10" but leave these point based trade threads alone?

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It's people like this that make Point Based lists nearly impossible to get hits..

Sure there are going to be variations between have/wants, but a 9 point difference? really?

I'd have maybe a 2-3 point difference, maybe more if it's something I kinda want but don't need, or expect to get quickly.

*Sighs*

On a unrelated note, whats the best way to get some random jank rares for EDH?

Need lots of them, but find buying Bulk rares to random, and difficult to control. Wind up getting crap that's not even playable in EDH, Vizzerdix (SP?) anyone?

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Originally posted by Lord Crovax:

On a unrelated note, whats the best way to get some random jank rares for EDH?

Need lots of them, but find buying Bulk rares to random, and difficult to control. Wind up getting crap that's not even playable in EDH, Vizzerdix (SP?) anyone?

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Originally posted by Lord Crovax:
It's people like this that make Point Based lists nearly impossible to get hits..

Sure there are going to be variations between have/wants, but a 9 point difference? really?

I'd have maybe a 2-3 point difference, maybe more if it's something I kinda want but don't need, or expect to get quickly.

*Sighs*

On a unrelated note, whats the best way to get some random jank rares for EDH?

Need lots of them, but find buying Bulk rares to random, and difficult to control. Wind up getting crap that's not even playable in EDH, Vizzerdix (SP?) anyone?

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Eh i find Bulk rares good for it, becuase you can trade jank for jank with people

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Originally posted by WeedIan:
Eh i find Bulk rares good for it, becuase you can trade jank for jank with people

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I don't trade much locally anymore, to much of a hassle these days.

and on here, if Jank was easy to trade for, I wouldn't have to ask a easy way to get it :P...

All that been said, bulk rares are what .10-.13 or is that to low?

and what are some good random cards for a URW EDH deck focused on randomness more so then winning?

If you want something that is semi-playable, I think you should make a very long list, limit everyone to no more than 4-ofs, and then offer $.25 per card.

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I got my 5th QP for MTGO (3-1 in another daily event). Only 10 more to go to qualify...

I can think of nothing for white or blue (Eye of the Storm?) but red has a lot of random, chance, chaotic, etc.

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Originally posted by Sovarius:
10 cents is a good starting place, and that's the value commonly assigned for trading bulk rares. I see 11 or 12 sometimes.

I can think of nothing for white or blue (Eye of the Storm?) but red has a lot of random, chance, chaotic, etc.

Thieve's Auction
Mana Clash
Grip of Chaos
Confusion in the Ranks
Karplusan Minotaur
Fiery Gambit
Planar Chaos

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Blue has some fun stuff

Shared Fate
Puca's Mischief

and the like...

Deck is basically set up, as a pseudo Group Hug, except instead of helping everyone, it does random things like, changing how people cast spells (Knowledge Pool) or Switching controllers (Thieves Auction) or Hurting everyone (Board Wipe) though those usually have some sort of side effect, like giving tokens, or slowly coming back.

Also has hurts everyone stuff, Ankh and the like.

Had a mono red version, that usually killed me before anyone else could, and would occasionally kill everyone at once.

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Can someone give me some rason why Slivers aren't spectacular for Legacy?
I'm not really seeing any GREAT reasons they would be, but i also still wonder just because i don't really know their major weaknesses. I mean they pump each other, can give them shroud, anything along the lines of Hibernation/Frenetic/Darkheart insure their survivability, Harmonic can take out a good number of pains (and if i'm not mistaken is already sometimes used in Legacy anyway?), have all the colors so you can still run all the best removal fairly easily...

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Originally posted by Sovarius:
Maybe something like Dimensional Breach?

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Can someone give me some rason why Slivers aren't spectacular for Legacy?
I'm not really seeing any GREAT reasons they would be, but i also still wonder just because i don't really know their major weaknesses. I mean they pump each other, can give them shroud, anything along the lines of Hibernation/Frenetic/Darkheart insure their survivability, Harmonic can take out a good number of pains (and if i'm not mistaken is already sometimes used in Legacy anyway?), have all the colors so you can still run all the best removal fairly easily...

And just for the record, no i don't really know that much about Legacy. Just asking cause i think i might make slivers my main Legacy deck (i play casual).

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If you are going to plays Slivers, you probably have to play Countersliver and that only runs about 16-20 slivers max.

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4x Crystalline
4x Winged
4x Muscle
2x Hibernation

4x Force of Will
4x Couterspell
4x Absorb

4x Swords to Plowshare
4x Accumulated Knowledge
4x Brainstorm (told you it was along time ago ;

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Edit:
I also ran duals:
4x Tundra
4x Savannah
4x Tropical

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Originally posted by Sovarius:
So i take it you mainboard about 22 counterspells? Or that something else?

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Here's an old topic on Slivers.

http://www.mtgthesource.com/forums/showthread.php?5500-[Deck]-Countersliver-%28MeatHooks%29/page54

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Originally posted by Sovarius:

Can someone give me some rason why Slivers aren't spectacular for Legacy?

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Fish is the better aggro-control deck. Lord of Atlantis and Merrow Reejerey and Merfolk Sovereign all pump up other Merfolk. Slivers are limited to Muscle and Sinew Sliver.

ALL of the Merfolk creatures can be pitched to Force of Will (the aforementioned Muscle and Sinew can not be pitched).

Fish runs a bunch of basic lands, except for Wasteland and Mutavault, so it's less prone to non-basic hate AND it can run non-basic hate in Back to Basics itself.

If you're trying to run aggro without counters, Zoo is much better, since you have more efficient creatures (Tarmogoyf and Wild Nacatl) and you get access to a bunch of burn spells that you won't find in UGW slivers.

Anyway, rant aside, people keep asking me "What's a cheap Legacy deck I can build?" but when I start to answer, they interrupt me with "except these decks", which usually consists of Dredge and Affinity. Affinity is an interesting choice of deck to hate on because it doesn't really do anything inherently unfair; any strategy that can be undone by one Hurkyl's Recall feels flimsy at best. The other deck they hate on is Dredge because of how non-interactive it is. This is a fair criticism; however, if you want to just spend a little and have a deck you can consistently play legacy with, dredge is the best way to go. $30-35 buys you the entire deck, and you can put more into it to tweak it to deal with hate.

So my usual response to someone who asks me that question is "Play Dredge. If you want a cheap real deck, play mono-red goblins and work toward the black splash. Goblins is the cheapest real deck in the format." This may not even be true anymore; that deck that got second at Indy seems legit (link here: Forgemaster combo) , but again, hurkyls...meh. It's hard to disrupt and a menace once it hits. Those three decks, plus merfolk if you have some of your old standard cards left over and want to get stuff that will potentially go into every future deck you make (wastelands and FoWs), are my biggest suggestions to new entrants into the format.

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Originally posted by yakusoku:
If you're trying to run aggro without counters, Zoo is much better, since you have more efficient creatures (Tarmogoyf and Wild Nacatl) and you get access to a bunch of burn spells that you won't find in UGW slivers.

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That was all very enlightening, but why does it have to be UGW slivers? Slivers with red and black have lots of burn/destroy options. The slivers themselves are quite lacking though, and that's probably the answer to my own question.

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Originally posted by Zakman86:
I got my first piece of power tonight

UNL Recall

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Originally posted by *Tedman*:
Won a PTQ last weekend. Tedman's going to Nagoya!

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Congrats sir!

Can't wait for PTQ Montréal ://

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Originally posted by SageShadows:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Zakman86:
I got my first piece of power tonight

UNL Recall

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Originally posted by Zakman86:
Traded the dealer at the Mobile, AL PTQ today. Also picked up an ITL Drain and some other sick Legacy stuff.

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Originally posted by gaeacradle:
What did you give up?

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Originally posted by Zakman86:
Set of goyfs, 2 wastelands and a metric asston of T2 stuff.

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Originally posted by Heresy19:
you gotta love t2 sellers

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On another note, I had a "price dispute" on a card with another trader. I said that Apathyhouse hasn't properly reflected the recent price in values of said card yet, and asked him if he can show me where he can get the card at AH's price, then I will trade it to him at that price.