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Topic: Post for Magic Stuff, Part 48
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JoshSherman Member
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posted February 19, 2011 06:22 AM
quote: Originally posted by thror: It just doesn't DO anything.
Most people have a different definition of "doesn't DO anything" than "to cast and activate a Mindslaver." That and the effect is normally better than Time Walk. For eleven mana, though... that's the thing that makes it hard to work with. Also, I ran into something intersting last night. As I was signing people up for FNM, a new player to the store suggested to me that stores are not allowed to charge an entry fee for FNM, but rather players can optionally put money into a prize pool (so you can play without paying). I told him that was not a policy I'd ever heard of, but that I would look into it. __________________ *MafiaBass*Joshweek*Letter Bombs!*Logout I gave Kenny G a fifth, and he turned into Chuck D.
[Edited 1 times, lastly by JoshSherman on February 19, 2011]
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caquaa Member
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posted February 19, 2011 07:33 AM
quote: Originally posted by JoshSherman: Also, I ran into something intersting last night. As I was signing people up for FNM, a new player to the store suggested to me that stores are not allowed to charge an entry fee for FNM, but rather players can optionally put money into a prize pool (so you can play without paying). I told him that was not a policy I'd ever heard of, but that I would look into it.
lol, I'd like to make up my own policies to suit me as well.
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Tranderas Member
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posted February 19, 2011 07:34 AM
2-0-2 last night in legacy, into t8, lost r1 of t8 to affinity.Playing junk (Nelson's list -1 Deed +1 EE) with the following SB: 2 Elspeth, Knight-Errant 3 Duress 2 Pernicious Deed 3 Engineered Plague 2 Leyline of the Void 1 Nihil Spellbomb 2 Ethersworn Canonist R1 get matched with a casual player with slivers. Pretty easy, safe match; I know the guy and want to see him get better so I point out when he's forgetting to do some things at times. I actually lose game 1 to not drawing a threat in 10 turns; g2-3 Engineered Plague ends those shenanigans. R2 go 1-1-1 against mono-white D&T, where when I realize we're going to time I just go into turtle mode and make my plays defensive cause I'd rather just draw. (Aside: Yes, you can make control play more defensively than usual. It's hilarious and people mock you.) Really wish I had drawn my Elspeth... Since we know we essentially have a bye (getting paired down) we laugh it off and I go to r3 against a casual who built his deck in 5 mins before the event. It was a long match cause he was running Phyrexian Crusaders and Junk only has EE in maindeck for nonwhite removal (plus four goyfs as the only creature that can beat it in combat). G2 he mulls to 3, i thoughtseize and hymn so he can't play anything. R4 was CB. Our first game takes 35 minutes, and involves him never turning up a 2cc thing with CB to stop my Goyfs. We do go through a ton of Jace bounce shenanigans (which end when I hit my Vindicate), but in the end he can never stem the tide of Goyfs and 10/10 KotR knocking down his door. G2 I made a horrible blunder involving his Kira and my Karakas and Maze of Ith, I deserved to lose. Admittedly, I was a bit tilted by him countering three consecutive threats with Force pitching Jace. When our TO announced 5 mins left in the round, we agreed to draw. I made two boneheaded plays vs Affinity in t8: 1) I double-thoughtseized t1, and took cranial plating and ravager. My opponent said "It'll be the Tezz that kills you." Two turns later, he proved himself right. 2) Apparently I need to read Deed again to note that it hits artifact lands. I didn't board them in for g2..... My play was great until CB, which is consistent with the idea of me simply being tired. By the time the second CB match came, it was the time I'm normally in bed. I stuck around to watch thror take his Punishing Fire CB list to the finals, where he and the other Junk player drew, ending the night. I think I want to add Elspeth to Junk's maindeck. It's kind of like Jitte for Merfolk, it's the kind of card that can punish the mirror and is also very good in its weak matchups (zoo, CB, referring to elspeth @ junk). The opponent can't afford to just sit back behind Goyf when yours is 3-power bigger and flies over, and even with a Jace on the field it has trouble coping with a free, uncounterable dude entering the field every turn. Zoo runs out of gas under Elspeth; it must deal with the planeswalker immediately or else the stream of blockers for their creatures will be too much for them to push through. It was a good night where fatigue played the biggest factor. I'm definitely getting a grip on my deck. Grats to thror for winning out. Tweaks to SB and MD are a must.
[Edited 1 times, lastly by Tranderas on February 19, 2011]
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JoshSherman Member
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posted February 19, 2011 09:29 AM
quote: Originally posted by Tranderas: R2 go 1-1-1 against mono-white D&T, where when I realize we're going to time I just go into turtle mode and make my plays defensive cause I'd rather just draw. (Aside: Yes, you can make control play more defensively than usual. It's hilarious and people mock you.) Really wish I had drawn my Elspeth...
Isn't this textbook stalling? __________________ *MafiaBass*Joshweek*Letter Bombs!*Logout I gave Kenny G a fifth, and he turned into Chuck D.
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Meddling Pimp Member
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posted February 19, 2011 09:41 AM
quote: Originally posted by JoshSherman: Isn't this textbook stalling?
Not if you're moving the game along at a decent speed. His description sounds more like playing not to lose vs playing to win. That said, it is a VERY fine line.
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Tranderas Member
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posted February 19, 2011 09:45 AM
quote: Originally posted by Meddling Pimp: His description sounds more like playing not to lose vs playing to win.
This. I wasn't stalling. I was taking my turns at reasonable pace, but I was making plays that do nothing to advance my game state and instead only hindering my opponent (casting Verdict to get rid of my opp's cards in hand, setting up a defensive Bob, tutoring with KotR for a Maze of Ith when I could have attacked with it etc).
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*Tedman* Member
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posted February 19, 2011 10:33 AM
Won a PTQ last weekend. Tedman's going to Nagoya!
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Thanos Member
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posted February 19, 2011 10:34 AM
quote: Originally posted by *Tedman*: Won a PTQ last weekend. Tedman's going to Nagoya!
Congrats
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WeedIan Member
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posted February 19, 2011 10:44 AM
quote: Originally posted by thror: It costs 11 mana to timewalk your opponent. Pretty bad. The UB tezz deck is the only deck in standard that has even tried to run one, none of the other control decks have even looked at it. It just doesn't DO anything.
So your saying it is bad in Standard? Saying a card is bad you need to say its bad in a format, not just bad It also only costs 10 mana to cast and use in the same turn, not 11. __________________ Member Since 03/28/2001 10000+ posts 3rd in posts in Ontario 15th in posts on MOTL Top 5 in Refs in Ontario (by people who location posted)
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JoshSherman Member
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posted February 19, 2011 10:58 AM
I am hoping to have around $100 to spend on some Magic singles. I "need" a Tarmogoyf and 2 Tezzeret AoBs. And Wastelands. And picking my sinkholes back up would be nice too. blah.__________________ *MafiaBass*Joshweek*Letter Bombs!*Logout I gave Kenny G a fifth, and he turned into Chuck D.
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Bugger Member
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posted February 19, 2011 10:59 AM
quote: Originally posted by WeedIan: So your saying it is bad in Standard?Saying a card is bad you need to say its bad in a format, not just bad It also only costs 10 mana to cast and use in the same turn, not 11.
Qft. In EDH for example it's pure gravy. __________________ (Humans) are stubborn, self-destructive conformists. Any other view of our species is just self-congratulatory delusion. Next Question." -- Michael Crichton, The Lost World
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Havoc Demon Member
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posted February 19, 2011 11:18 AM
quote: Originally posted by WeedIan: So your saying it is bad in Standard?
Yeah he's talking about Standard. It's a gorilla in EDH and used tob e that way in Vintage.
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Malice327 Member
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posted February 19, 2011 11:40 AM
quote: Originally posted by JoshSherman:
Also, I ran into something intersting last night. As I was signing people up for FNM, a new player to the store suggested to me that stores are not allowed to charge an entry fee for FNM, but rather players can optionally put money into a prize pool (so you can play without paying). I told him that was not a policy I'd ever heard of, but that I would look into it.
....crickets..... did you tell him he was dumb?
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wayne Member
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posted February 19, 2011 11:57 AM
quote: Originally posted by *Tedman*: Won a PTQ last weekend. Tedman's going to Nagoya!
Grats! In other news, another two sealed events, another Geth and Liege of the Tangle, *sigh*
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AlmostGrown Member
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posted February 19, 2011 12:05 PM
quote: Originally posted by JoshSherman: Also, I ran into something intersting last night. As I was signing people up for FNM, a new player to the store suggested to me that stores are not allowed to charge an entry fee for FNM, but rather players can optionally put money into a prize pool (so you can play without paying). I told him that was not a policy I'd ever heard of, but that I would look into it.
My local FNMs do this, sort of. You can choose to "buy-in" for $4, and it adds a pack to the prize pool. At the end of the night, all the packs are open and everyone who buys in gets to choose a pack as their prize. Obviously the highest ranking goes first, so on and so forth until everyone has received their pack. I don't understand whats so weird about this. It caters to both the casual and more serious players. __________________ send ref checks, paypal payment or any questions to the email in my profile! Serra Angel Count: 239 Nightmare Count: 95
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thror Member
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posted February 19, 2011 12:13 PM
quote: Originally posted by AlmostGrown: My local FNMs do this, sort of. You can choose to "buy-in" for $4, and it adds a pack to the prize pool. At the end of the night, all the packs are open and everyone who buys in gets to choose a pack as their prize. Obviously the highest ranking goes first, so on and so forth until everyone has received their pack. I don't understand whats so weird about this. It caters to both the casual and more serious players.
Tournaments have entry fees to cover prize support. I've been to tournaments all over michigan and none of them have ever had 'optional entry'. __________________ "He fights you not because you have wronged him, but because you are there."[16:17] <@BrassMan> what do you need new tech for? [16:18] <@BrassMan> gush is unrestricted [19:01] <nderEvo> you can delete yourself
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gaeacradle Member
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posted February 19, 2011 12:35 PM
quote: Originally posted by thror: Tournaments have entry fees to cover prize support. I've been to tournaments all over michigan and none of them have ever had 'optional entry'.
Yup. If there is no fees, and there is no prize support, just FNM promos for top 4.
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WeedIan Member
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posted February 19, 2011 01:19 PM
quote: Originally posted by gaeacradle: Yup. If there is no fees, and there is no prize support, just FNM promos for top 4.
The places around here do it different. No entry fee = 1st and 2nd get FNM promos and 2 Door prizes picked randomly (usually young kids or people who have to drive far to come) __________________ Member Since 03/28/2001 10000+ posts 3rd in posts in Ontario 15th in posts on MOTL Top 5 in Refs in Ontario (by people who location posted)
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gaeacradle Member
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posted February 19, 2011 01:24 PM
quote: Originally posted by WeedIan: The places around here do it different. No entry fee = 1st and 2nd get FNM promos and 2 Door prizes picked randomly (usually young kids or people who have to drive far to come)
Oops. I was wrong. We do Top 3 and 1 lucky random person get the last 1 one. Sometimes, the store owner also roll for a couple of times for random foils in his envelope. Nothing is amazing but there was a FOIL Shards of Alara Tezzeret in there.
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Harmless Member
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posted February 19, 2011 01:26 PM
quote: Originally posted by Tranderas: Since we know we essentially have a bye (getting paired down) we laugh it off and I go to r3 against a casual who built his deck in 5 mins before the event.
quote: Originally posted by Tranderas: 2) Apparently I need to read Deed again to note that it hits artifact lands. I didn't board them in for g2.....
I love people like this.
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Tranderas Member
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posted February 19, 2011 01:35 PM
Meh. It was late, and i was playing way way way suboptimally. I don't even know how i was able to stay awake through the CB match; by the time affinity came i just wanted to be asleep. It happens, you have a long day and you start to not remember what cards do.
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thror Member
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posted February 19, 2011 01:40 PM
quote: Originally posted by Tranderas: I stuck around to watch thror take his Punishing Fire CB list to the finals, where he and the other Junk player drew, ending the night.
Through the 12 games I played (all my rounds were 2-0, one way or another), the 2 copies of punishing fire MD killed 24 creatures and 1 player. Freaking insane.
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Malice327 Member
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posted February 19, 2011 02:59 PM
Reaaaaaaaaaaaally?! I get the whole needing to make a profit off of a point based have want list, but Want: Koth - 10 points Have: Koth - 19 points is ridiculous. How does the MOTL hit squad jump all over someone posting "buying koth's for $10" but leave these point based trade threads alone?
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airwalk Member
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posted February 19, 2011 03:17 PM
quote: Originally posted by Malice327: Reaaaaaaaaaaaally?! I get the whole needing to make a profit off of a point based have want list, but Want: Koth - 10 points Have: Koth - 19 points is ridiculous. How does the MOTL hit squad jump all over someone posting "buying koth's for $10" but leave these point based trade threads alone?
Most people probably know better than even to open a link that mentions a point based H/W list.
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MeddlingMage Member
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posted February 19, 2011 03:31 PM
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