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Originally posted by darius vitrosoo:
hello i know i have been gone for a while and i know this post will probably result in me getting some bad mouth from other players. i recently quit magic paper version, due to lack of jace tms. all i do is draft as drafting makes me money. i was going to come back soon but thx to new phyrexia i am not coming back until it rotates from standard. The new psudeo hybrid ability is <snip>, i do not care what anyone says, i hated when magic intrdoced hybrid to us as it made the cards lie to you and it makes it hard to stragagize for any situation. i can see a broken card coming out that cost just phyrexian symbol(s) and it <snip> powerful, i already see the extract, i think there is far worse to come. i hate this fact because i think i am the only player who likes infect in draft and in standard and in any inviroment, infact i hope we do NOT get any way to remove the counters from the player. We need an infect planeswalker, that would be cool, i might come back for that but this new mana/life cost that makes cards everycolor is kinda worse then hybrid. why do they keep doing this every other set? shards of alara had hybrid and cascade which were bad abilites and now the third set introduces, hybrid 2.0 which is totally warped. i iwll miss standard for a while and i hope to come back to a decnt time period of playing, i think it sucks as this block was looking to be best block ever and now it is almost worst then Kamagawa block, (i can't even spell it right, that how bad the block was) the hex parasite guy is the best card debued so far and he should make a huge impact on the standard enviroment as its going to be infect infect infect and jace tms rulling the battlefeild all day. white will have chance thx to the new knight, but i do not think its enough unless the sword is uber-good.


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On a side note, nothing can be as bad as Kamigawa standard from what I hear.

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quote:
Originally posted by SageShadows:

On a side note, nothing can be as bad as Kamigawa standard from what I hear.


It wasn't that bad (compared to lets say... Masques) but it wasn't a very fun set to play in standard. Drafting it was ok; (yay. I got Jitte, I play Jitte, I win the match.)


Personaly, I hated drafting Prophecy and I hated Worldwake.

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quote:
Originally posted by joz:

It wasn't that bad (compared to lets say... Masques) but it wasn't a very fun set to play in standard. Drafting it was ok; (yay. I got Jitte, I play Jitte, I win the match.)


Personaly, I hated drafting Prophecy and I hated Worldwake.


CHK by itself was good. it only got dumb with the expansions, which were 90% filler and took a big dump on an otherwise decent format.

 
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why do people feel the need to delcare they are quiting magic?

for that matter why quit? if you dont like the current standand just play a differnt format or maybe even try to play around needing the expensive stuff if thats the problem.

i enjoy building rouge decks and taking them to FNM. sure they dont always work but the look on people's faces when you win a game/match playing quest for ula's temple is priceless.

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Originally posted by Timmyhill:
why do people feel the need to delcare they are quiting magic?


Because people need attention.

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Originally posted by Havoc Demon:
Because people need attention.


Because they want other people to agree with them on the reasons they are quiting magic.

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quote:
Originally posted by SageShadows:
On a side note, nothing can be as bad as Kamigawa standard from what I hear.

The problem with Kamigawa is that is properly balanced as a block. Players don't like balanced cards. While Kamigawa was standard it was generally used a supplemental to the other block.

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quote:
Originally posted by Liq:
The problem with Kamigawa is that is properly balanced as a block. Players don't like balanced cards. While Kamigawa was standard it was generally used a supplemental to the other block.


Jitte says no.

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quote:
Originally posted by Bugger:
Jitte says no.


As a block, Kamigawa is balanced. Aside from 1-4 cards, it was underpowered. But at the same time it was balanced. AFAIK there was no one archetype favored over another.

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Man, I still remember that day I drafted 2 jitte. Love that block.
 
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quote:
Originally posted by Liq:
The problem with Kamigawa is that is properly balanced as a block. Players don't like balanced cards. While Kamigawa was standard it was generally used a supplemental to the other block.


I'd associate it closer to legends. A few busted cards, but mostly everything just costs too much. I remember being happy to get a 3/3 for 5 in draft. Yuck! That isn't balanced, that's just bad.

 
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I quite like the P hybrid--it makes room for the possibility of use useful tempo spells, slash will give us some room to to breathe mana-wise anyway. [card]Snuff Out[/card] would be PP or 3B, which is perfectly fair, and looks way cooler with P symbols.

I'm actually kind of excited to see what comes out of the set. It looks like it will be fun, and perhaps even have interesting flavour--Phyrexia was always the most interesting aspect of the old storyline, for me.

Lastly... Phyrexian Canceller would have been soooo much better at BBB (but grossly overpowered!). At BBBB, I'm sure he'll see some play even outside Standard, but it's slightly (only slightly!) less ridiculous. That would have been one scary mofo in Legacy.

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quote:
Originally posted by Goaswerfraiejen:

Lastly... Phyrexian Canceller would have been soooo much better at BBB (but grossly overpowered!). At BBBB, I'm sure he'll see some play even outside Standard, but it's slightly (only slightly!) less ridiculous. That would have been one scary mofo in Legacy.


I think the transliteration has been changed from Canceller to Obliterator.

 
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Sheoldred, Whispering One 5BB
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At the beginning of your upkeep,return target creature card from your graveyard to the battlefield.
At the beginning of each opponent's upkeep,that player sacrifices a creature.

The Pre-Release card
http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=316224

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Yeah, I'll be picking her up for at least 1 EDH deck.

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Originally posted by iccarus:
Yeah, I'll be picking her up for at least 1 EDH deck.


 
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Wonderful. Real fair card. Glad she's the pre-release though so she can make an instant appearance in my cube.
 
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I feel she could've been way better, for 7 mana, I mean they're the freaking Praetros! it would've been awesome if they had the Phyrexian costs in they Mana Cost and do something else. Oh well.
 
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I feel she could've been way better, for 7 mana, I mean they're the freaking Praetros! it would've been awesome if they had the Phyrexian costs in they Mana Cost and do something else. Oh well.

Standard has enough Titan-like creatures. Don't think we need another set of 6/6s with abilities for 6 or 5.

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quote:
Originally posted by junichi:
Standard has enough Titan-like creatures. Don't think we need another set of 6/6s with abilities for 6 or 5.


yeah I guess you're right.

Looking at the bright side, if the praetors don't make any Constructed lists, at least they'll be fairly cheap to purchase for our cubes and casual scene.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by Myy:
yeah I guess you're right.

Looking at the bright side, if the praetors don't make any Constructed lists, at least they'll be fairly cheap to purchase for our cubes and casual scene.



Those are the reasons they'll be a constant $3-5 nonfoil, up to $20 foil. Depending on how good they are.

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Dispatch
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I just have to say that from what I've seen so far, this set has the best artwork of any Magic set to date.

Love this one: http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=117118&d=1302885426

So badass

 
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quote:
Originally posted by skizzikmonger:
Dispatch
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Tap target creature
Metalcraft-If you control three
or more artifacts, exile that creature

Now that is a well-balanced card; kinda.
But I foresee it being to good in that damned Quest deck

 

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