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bigbob585
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quote:
Originally posted by Myy:
I can't see the spoilers, did they take them down? and sos did bigbob585.???

Hey Myy.
I didn't want to get smacked by the mod for advertising my site... here's the link again to the visual spoiler

http://globalmtg.crystalcommerce.com/catalog/magic_singles-normal_sets-new_phyrexia/317

Enjoy

 
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quote:
Originally posted by bigbob585:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Myy:
I can't see the spoilers, did they take them down? and sos did bigbob585.???

Hey Myy.
I didn't want to get smacked by the mod for advertising my site... here's the link again to the visual spoiler

http://globalmtg.crystalcommerce.com/catalog/magic_singles-normal_sets-new_phyrexia/317

Enjoy[/QUOTE]

but the pictures are still gone? or are they just not showing up on my browser.... I can still read the cards text though

 
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Its official. This set is boring.
 
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quote:
Originally posted by Myysterio:
Its official. This set is boring.

Salvation nooooooo

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quote:
Originally posted by Myysterio:
Its official. This set is boring.

You should give the game up, this set seems pretty awesome.

 
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the set is OK. it blows the dragon is another useless overcosted junk. the angel legend is decent but without shroud it dies pretty quick. The sword is not bad but i dont think it is worth mid 20s$ though
 
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quote:
Originally posted by shaselai:
the set is OK. it blows the dragon is another useless overcosted junk. the angel legend is decent but without shroud it dies pretty quick. The sword is not bad but i dont think it is worth mid 20s$ though

Moltensteel Dragon?

The dragon that can fly over and hit for 16 on turn 5?

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quote:
but the pictures are still gone? or are they just not showing up on my browser.... I can still read the cards text though

That's hilarious. Wizards must not want them releasing the pictures or something. They were up fine when i posted the link.

Edit - I got an email confirming this less than a minute after I posted this reply. It seems wizards was livid that the pictures were posted due to being leaked so they took them down until they receive approval.

[Edited 1 times, lastly by bigbob585 on April 21, 2011]

 
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Forgive my ignorance but I still don't understand what's so good about the new counterspell. Yes I know it's basically like a free counterspell and most legacy cards are within 1 to 2 mana casting cost but with the card, you're basically waiting for the right cc to be played for you to counter and sometimes it's a card that's not really needed to be countered.
 
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quote:
Originally posted by mtglover:
Forgive my ignorance but I still don't understand what's so good about the new counterspell. Yes I know it's basically like a free counterspell and most legacy cards are within 1 to 2 mana casting cost but with the card, you're basically waiting for the right cc to be played for you to counter and sometimes it's a card that's not really needed to be countered.

The thing is that in Legacy, many of the 1 CMC cards are necessary to counter. Goblins, with Vials and Lackey. Heck, even High Tide takes a beating with its namesake card and Candlesticks. Top in Countertop. Swords to Plowshares, Path to Exile, Thoughtseize, Wild Nacatl, etc. The list goes on and on.
 
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quote:
Originally posted by SageShadows:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by mtglover:
Forgive my ignorance but I still don't understand what's so good about the new counterspell. Yes I know it's basically like a free counterspell and most legacy cards are within 1 to 2 mana casting cost but with the card, you're basically waiting for the right cc to be played for you to counter and sometimes it's a card that's not really needed to be countered.

The thing is that in Legacy, many of the 1 CMC cards are necessary to counter. Goblins, with Vials and Lackey. Heck, even High Tide takes a beating with its namesake card and Candlesticks. Top in Countertop. Swords to Plowshares, Path to Exile, Thoughtseize, Wild Nacatl, etc. The list goes on and on. [/QUOTE]

Rather just have Daze

 
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They really should have made a counterspell that was P/X P/U, counter cost=X. So if you really really want something gone, then sure, just pay a pile of life for it.
 
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quote:
Originally posted by stu55:
Rather just have Daze

yeah but daze can be played around and isn't very effective late game.

The new one stops a ton of stuff, StP, Dark Ritual, High Tide, Lackey, Candelabra, Half of the elf deck, Putrid Imp, Brainstorm, ReB, Spell Pierce, Aether Vial, etc etc..

Every deck thats made top 8 at the last few SCG Opens has good to awesome targets for it, it you don't have to play blue or islands to use it.

EDIT: oh and it also can be used to counter itself.

[Edited 2 times, lastly by TimeBeing on April 21, 2011]

 
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Finally a counterspell for swords/path. Daze doesn't stop those. I would be happy to pay U but 2 life in any deck is okay for me. I like creatures.

The hatred dragon is good too i'm happy it is rare and not mythic.

[Edited 2 times, lastly by gcowhsu on April 21, 2011]

 
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At first glance I read "unless controller pays 1", but the way it actually is is awesome (better, IMO). The combo player in me is sad, though.

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quote:
Originally posted by stu55:
Rather just have Daze

You can only play Daze in blue decks. Agro decks now have a tool to stop STP, Spell Snare, High Tide, Dark Ritual, Thoughtsieze, ect.

 
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Originally posted by Scopes13mtg:
At first glance I read "unless controller pays 1", but the way it actually is is awesome (better, IMO). The combo player in me is sad, though.

Slowing down legacy is definitely the way to go. I think the format would be much more popular and affordable if rogue decks can be 30-40% against the field.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by fluffycow:
Slowing down legacy is definitely the way to go. I think the format would be much more popular and affordable if rogue decks can be 30-40% against the field.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by fluffycow:
Slowing down legacy is definitely the way to go. I think the format would be much more popular and affordable if rogue decks can be 30-40% against the field.
Better for the format, probably. Better for me, no.

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Legacy isn't expensive enough as prices keep on going up as it is what people are willing to pay.

Everyone is always trying to get in as well so people ARE paying.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by Volcanon:
They really should have made a counterspell that was P/X P/U, counter cost=X. So if you really really want something gone, then sure, just pay a pile of life for it.

I was thinking the same thing!

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Originally posted by gcowhsu:
Legacy isn't expensive enough as prices keep on going up as it is what people are willing to pay.

Everyone is always trying to get in as well so people ARE paying.

You are absolutely right, but if top 8 consist of 6 real decks, a spider stompy and a mono white dragon deck, then people aren't gonna be as willing to buy U.sea for 90+.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by fluffycow:
You are absolutely right, but if top 8 consist of 6 real decks, a spider stompy and a mono white dragon deck, then people aren't gonna be as willing to buy U.sea for 90+.

I want to see a list for Spider Stompy

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quote:
Originally posted by WCFmo:
I want to see a list for Spider Stompy

I would play that at GP:Prov in a heartbeat if it was at least a tiny bit viable!

 
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Taigas are $50+. I want to go from Rb goblins to Rg goblins. You know what I did? I got a playset of Stomping ground for $22 shipped. It still works just as fine. Shocklands are out there people, stop complaining. (Note: The shockland substitute will NOT work for Ad Nauseam based decks)

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