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Originally posted by yakusoku:
JoshSherman wins the Johnny award for his use of Sorrow's Path, something I would never have thought could win a game of Magic.

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I was also in running for Tarmogoyf, but I forgot about Lucent Liminid. I guess I could have pounded Gatherer a little harder. Still, it was a valiant effort. I did manage to get seven of them off the top of my head, and it's a legit deck. I think I did myself proud even though I fell short. Good job, SageShadows!

Before I score my decks (they aren't doing so hot, ftr), I'd just like to rub it in that Sorrow's Path is actually going to win a few matches. Also, if you're interested, I'm building a 60-card version of this here.

I have bad news.

Someone just pointed out to me that your first deck is actually a mise deck.

If 5Islands.dec simply refuses to play an Island, you can't play Political Trickery. Some decks can beat you, but you can't do any better than a draw against any deck.

I'm afraid I'll have to DQ the deck and woefully give the achievement to someone else.

Sorry for not catching this sooner.

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Yakusoku
1A - DL. on the play you can't race isamaru and you have to force a draw. On the draw you can outrace me.
1B - WW

Magic1264
2A - LL. havent actually walked through every possibility but I'm pretty sure you can just leave a couple 'blossom tokens behind and chump and still win the race.
2B - WW.

MagicDX
3A - LL. Bolt gets rid of Isamaru and either Swap token or Squee beats me down.
3B - WW. Either I land Aura of Silence before you can cast Barren Glory, making it too expensive, or I land it the turn after you cast it and remove it.

LemonMeringue
4A - LL. Amazing deck btw.
4B - LL. Inquisition the Swap and kill Isamaru with either Ghast or Pox.

Masterwolf
6A - LL. Choosing lands for the Act means I can't cast crib swap and lose to the 5/5 in a race.

JoshSherman
7B - DD. On the play, I swap away the arbor forcing you to Bone Splinter Isamaru whenever it lands. On the draw, I Aura your 'blossom and then Swap arbor, forcing the same result.

ExtremeEagle
9A - LL. Too fast for swapping, and even if it weren't it doesn't make a difference.
9B - LL. Ghast trades with Isamaru on the play.

MAB_Rapper
10A - LL (see 9A)
10B - LL. play your artifacts before I can land Aura.

Daner
11A - WW. Swap on Archon.
11B - WW. Aura on the Vial before you can get a single Superion out.

ryan2754
12A - DD. I don't see how this deck is supposed to win. If you cast Pox at any point you can only draw - either the Pit Imp is on the field, in which case it's sacrificed (rounding up) or it's in your hand in which case it's discarded (rounding up).
12B - LL. Inquisition gets Swap, and Edict gets Isamaru.

Junichi
13A - DL. On the play I get out Isamaru and then we stare at each other forever, because you can't race me and I can't afford to block or attack into you with the lotus petal.
13B - DL. On the play I get Remote Farm down t1 so encroach is useless, and Aura t2 to prevent bitterblossom. I only have 2 cards in hand so Tourach wipes me.

WeedIan
14A - WW. On the play I get out Aura before you can attack with Dreadnought and nuke it, on the draw I let you attack once and then nuke it and win with Isamaru.
14B - WD. On the play I land Aura before your Monolith and you can't do anything. On the draw I can Aura away your digger, Swap your Stones, and then trade with the token and the statuary with Isamaru.

Numotflame96
15A - LL. Dismember on demand says byebye to my wincon and Blackmail gets rid of the Aura.
15B - WW. Aura deals with Oath before it can go off.

Dwiz
16A - WW. Isamaru outraces Scout.
16B - WW. Even with the Unsummons Isamaru wins the race.

Mattw
17A - LL. Inquisition gets Crib Swap and bolt gets Isamaru.
17B - LL. Inquisition and Duress make short work of removal, and you'll outrace me once you upgrade to Stabwhisker.

yukizora
18A - WD. On the play I stick the Aura before you play power artifact, nuking the Coalition Relic and leaving you without colored mana to cast PA or Fireball (meaning I can get in with Isamaru). On the draw I have to choose to either nuke the Power Artifact or the monolith itself, and in either case you're able to Fireball Isamaru to force a draw.
18B - LL. RSZ and BSZ deal with Isamaru and Crib Swap is as useless as a poopy-flavored lollipop against a resolved WSZ.

TimeBeing
19A - LL.
19B - WW. Aura makes all your lotus blooms cost 2 I believe (suspend says "cast without paying mana cost" but Aura forces you to pay an additional 2). If I'm wrong, I'm boned.

Cody Johns
20A - WW. Aura stops you from casting on the play, and removes the souleater on the draw.
20B - WW. I discard Crib Swap if you use Revelation, and Aura deals permanently with the Vault Skirge

DerFisch
21A - WW. Aura nukes Monolith, then Crib Swap deals with the first fattie you hardcast, and ultimately Isamaru wins the race.
21B - DD. I can deal with your combo, but Phantasmal Image on Isamaru forces a draw.

Trag3dy
22A - WW. Aura prevents you from casting Tezzeret one way or the other.
22B - LL. Raze gets me.

Jtrade77
23A - DD. You duress away my Aura, and I can't attack into you for fear of trading with the Nexus and the changeling token.
23B - WW. On the play I can get Aura out before you can drop your wincon and nuke the monolith. On the draw I nuke your monolith (assuming you drop Angel) and then Swap the angel, and outrace with Isamaru. If you wait on the Angel I just lock you out.

WestWycke
24A - WL.
24B - WW. Aura and Swap get the job done.

dfitzg88
25A - DD.
25B - LL. Damn your shroud!

Djcards
26A - WW. On the play Aura gets stuff done, on the draw aura and swap do work.
26B - LL. Aura gets Memnite and Swap gets Skyfisher, but you still overrun me.

stab107
27A - LL. You get to attack with an Agent before I attack with Isamaru and thus win the race by a hair.
27B - LL

Goas
28A - LL
28B - WW. Whatever the sculler removes, I use Aura or Swap to get it back and outrace the skirge.

Myy
29A - WL.
29B - DD

SageShadows
30A - LL.
30B - DD. Aura forces draw.

WCFmo
31A - WW. On the play, you can inquisition my Aura, in which case I swap the zombie token and you die from sarcomancy and Isamaru. Or you can inquisition my Swap, in which case I drop the Aura, lock you out of sarcomancy, and win with isamaru. On the draw, you can encroach the Remote Farm, but then I drop Isamaru and either I win the race or you chump and then die from sarcomancy.
31B - LL

quote:

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Originally posted by JoshSherman:
I was also in running for Tarmogoyf, but I forgot about Lucent Liminid. I guess I could have pounded Gatherer a little harder. Still, it was a valiant effort. I did manage to get seven of them off the top of my head, and it's a legit deck. I think I did myself proud even though I fell short. Good job, SageShadows!

Before I score my decks (they aren't doing so hot, ftr), I'd just like to rub it in that Sorrow's Path is actually going to win a few matches. Also, if you're interested, I'm building a 60-card version of this here.

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Bugger:

12A - DD. I don't see how this deck is supposed to win. If you cast Pox at any point you can only draw - either the Pit Imp is on the field, in which case it's sacrificed (rounding up) or it's in your hand in which case it's discarded (rounding up).

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You're overthinking it. The cards don't work well together. Pox is the Plan B - if the Pit Imp doesn't work, you try to use Pox to force a draw. More to the point, the deck was likely his attempt to get the achievement for Terseness. Pit Imp is a short name, and Pox is even shorter. Both are no match for one word names in Magic1264's deck, though.

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Originally posted by SageShadows:
I also tried to go for Quick Brown Fox, but I don't know if 22 letters is enough to win.

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It's actually not. I haven't finished scoring everyone, but Magic1264 has 23 letters in his first deck, ryan2754 has 22 in his decond deck, and LemonMeringue has 24 in his second deck.

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Originally posted by yakusoku:
It's actually not. I haven't finished scoring everyone, but Magic1264 has 23 letters in his first deck, ryan2754 has 22 in his decond deck, and LemonMeringue has 24 in his second deck.

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I only count 23 in Lemon's 2nd deck. Minus YJF.

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Originally posted by yakusoku:
Josh,

I have bad news.

Someone just pointed out to me that your first deck is actually a mise deck.

If 5Islands.dec simply refuses to play an Island, you can't play Political Trickery. Some decks can beat you, but you can't do any better than a draw against any deck.

I'm afraid I'll have to DQ the deck and woefully give the achievement to someone else.

Sorry for not catching this sooner.

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I'm really mad about this. But I know taking submissions for this many decks is a daunting task, so I yakusoku not to take it out on you This was a great idea, and I hope you continue to do stuff that's fun and exciting for the V5CB game.

If Fog bank was something else, this wouldn't be true. I just wanted a dude that could stall the board. Guess I could have used a cheap shroudy guy instead. But Spawnbroker would not work for the same reason. they just don't drop a land until I play him, then there's no target.

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Originally posted by Liq:
I only count 23 in Lemon's 2nd deck. Minus YJF.

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Inquisition of Kozilek.

He's missing J and Y.

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Guessing there are a few mistakes. what i get for decks that can get complicated with the combat math. Was a lot of fun adding these up. Got one prize which is cool!

My Decks
19A
Undiscovered Paradise
Drop of Honey
Blackmail
Stormscape Apprentice
Student of Warfare
19B
Storm Herd
Lotus Bloom
Lotus Bloom
Lotus Bloom
Lotus Bloom

1. yakusoku
Commandeer
Moonlace
Misdirection
Saprazzan Cove
Isleback Spawn
19A WW (never play my one non creature card.) 6
19B LL Can't cast storm herd 0

Gemstone Caverns
Moonlace
Spell Pierce
Tropical Island
Scryb Ranger

19A WW my creatures win the race. Never play a spell pierce target 12
19B LL he counters a Lotus Bloom 0
2. Magic1264

Bitterblossom
Vault of Whispers
City of Brass
Inquisition of Kozilek
Noxious Revival

19A LL Noxious Revival stops my discard and IoK grabs DoH and I pretty sure I can't race. 12
19B WL Storm Heard kill him faster then Biitter. IoK takes a bloom on the play 3

Alms
Opt
Hex
Zap
Dryad Arbor

19A WW 18 (grats on the 5 color I came close. my 4 color doesn't cut it)
19B WW 9

3. MagicDX
Volcanic Island
City of Traitors
Squee Goblin Nabob
Waterfront Bouncer
Lightning Bolt

19A WW Pretty sure discard win on this. He can't show me lands. I take Bolt. If he plays bouncer I play DoH, If he plays Squee I start leveling Student. If he attacks I win the race. I he holds back I use stormscape to ping him out. If he pays nothing, I play SoW and start leveling it and attacking if he bounces it with waterfront I play DoH and see above. 24
19B WW Lots of flying guys 15

Lotus Petal
Crystal Vein
Ruins of Trokair
Barren Glory
Lotus Petal
19A WW Discard 30
19B LL pretty sure Glory goes off before I can do anything 15

4. LemonMeringue
Elvish Spirit Guide
Amulet of Vigor
Fastbond
Golgari Rot Farm
Ob Nilixis, the Fallen
19A WL Nice deck. Discard get me a win on the play. 33
19B LL 15

Swamp
Inquisition of Kozilek
Bloodghast
Undiscovered Paradise
Smallpox

19A WT Long story on the tie but it about discarding and stuff. 34
19B LL 15

5. Bugger
Remote Farm
Plains
Isamaru, Hound of Konda
Aura of Silence
Crib Swap

19A WW with discard and 2 creatures 40
19B LL lots of flyers 21 (edit opps aura stops my lotuses)

Lotus petal
Bayou
Skyshroud Cutter
Skyshroud Cutter
False Cure

19A WW if he combos me I play DoH and his creatures die. If he does nothing I just use discard to stop his False Cure and then my creatures beat his. 46
19B LL be at 2 life when storm heard goes off. 21

6. MasterWolf
Balancing Act
Durkwood Baloth
Noxious Revival
Tinder Farm
Tinder Farm

19A LL Nice deck 46
19B LL really Nice deck 21

Inquisition of Kozilek
Evil Presence
Inkmoth Nexus
Swamp
Inkmoth Nexus

Banned Deck

7. JoshSherman
Fog Bank
Dreadship Reef
Sorrow's Path
Political Trickery
Rishadan Port
19A WW has to show me one of the card from his combo when I play Blackmail. Ping him out 52
19B WW no lands to trade. 27

Bitterblossom
Vault of Whispers
Dryad Arbor
Go For the Throat
Bone Splinters

19A WW he show me land he loses, if he shows me none lands. I take Bitter. And DoH kills his land so he can only kill one of my Creatures. 58
19B W-W I make to many flying guys for him to deal with. 33

8. AGO
Aeoliopile
Crystal Vein
Crucible of Worlds
Buried Ruin
Elixir of Imortality

19A WW he has to lose a land or Crucible and his combo dies. 64
19B WW I have lots of flyers and 5 life a turn doesn't save him 39

Grove of the Burnwillows
Urborg Tomb of Yawgmoth
Gaea's Blessing
Needlebite Trap
Needlebite Trap

Mise Deck

9. eXtremeEagle
Chancellor of the Forge
Blazing Shoal
Invigorate
Berserk
Forest
19A WL turn 1 he loses to discard and DoH. I lose to turn 1 combo 67
19B LL turn 1 win. 39

Oboro, Palace in the Clouds
Elvish Spirit Guide
Elvish Spirit Guide
Windfall
Bloodghast
19A WL discard and then I lose my had on the play. 70
19B LL lose my hand 39

10. MAB_Rapper
Bayou
Chancellor of the Forge
Tainted Strike
Invigorate
Invigorate
19A WL discard wins me one 76
19B LL 39

Lotus Petal
Lotus Petal
Lotus Petal
Mox Opal
Empty the Warrens
19A WL disacrd on the play on the draw that 8 goblins... dont think DoH is fast enough. 79
19B LL 39

11. daner
Saltcrested Steppe
Plains
Plains
Scorched Ruins
Blazing Archon
19A WW discard 85
19B WW I get hit for 20 on turn 5. My counts look that archon comes down on turn 6. if I'm of its TT since he can't attack me. 45

Darksteel Citadel
Aether Vial
Myr Superion
Myr Superion
Myr Superion
19A TT Discard leaves him with 2 Myr and I can remove one with DoH (and lsoe one of my creatures) and then lock down the other. 87
19B WW I hit him for 20 turn 5. his first myr comes down turn 4 51

12. ryan2754.
Swamp
Swamp
Swamp
Pox
Pit Imp
19A WW Blackmail stops pox. 93
19B WW POX doesn't do anything with 1 card in hand. I Make 10 guys turn 4 57

Bayou
Inqusition of Kozilek
Obstinate Baloth
Rushwood Grove
Diabolic Edict
19A WW On play I take IoK (he cant show me a land) Play Storm and then SoW and level him up to the point where he can't race. Edit only kills Storm and slows he down 2 turns. On the draw he has to take my blackmail or he loses a land. Which case it play out the same way as if I go first. 96
19B WL 20 flyers out race his Baloth. 60

13. junichi
Lotus Petal
City of Traitors
Windfall
Basking Rootwalla
Noxious Revival
19A WL Turn 1 I play Student and I can race his Rootwalla, on the draw I lose my hand 99
19B LL discard 60

Encroach
Hymn to Tourach
Bitterblossom
Swamp
Swamp
19A WL Discard takes Bitterblossm on the play. And then student beats him down. Lose my land on the draw. 102
19B LL Discard 60

14. WeedIan
Swamp
Lotus Petal
Cabal Ritual
Phyrexian Dreadnaught
Torpor Orb
19A WW discard win the first one, DoH will win the second one. 108
19B LL to fast. 60

Voltaic Key
Grim Monolith
Stalking Stones
Dread Statuary
Soldevi Digger
19A WW discard and DoH should do it 114
19B WW he cant really attack till it too late. 66

15. Numotflame96
vault of whispers
bitterblosson
Elvish spirit guide
Dismember
Blackmail
19A WW on the play I take blackmail with mine. He can never play Bitter or will lose to DoH. One of my creatures will kill him. On the draw if he blackmail he see everything but DoH and land. If he takes a creature I use blackmail to take his dismember. And he can't play Bitter with out losing to DoH. If he takes black mail see me going first. 120
19B LL discard 66

Kozilek the butcher of truth
lotus petal
oath of druids
piracy charm
forbidden orchard
19A TT Stormscape locks down Koz. Blackmail doesn't do anything since he just holds piracy charm Orchard back and shuffles anything back with charm on Koz. 122
19B WL Kox attacks on turn 4 (turn 1 charm, turn 2 Oath, Turn 3 Koz turn 4 attack) I make 20 1/1 turn 4 when I play my 1/1 win (4 die to inhalator 1 blocks. 14 hit him. 5 more die 9 hit him) when I draw get hit for 12 so only make 8 guys and don't win the race. 69

16. dwiz
Treetop Scout
Elvish Spirit Guide
Rust
Rust
Forest
19A WW my guys bigger 128
19B WW Lotus is a mana abilty. 75

Island
Flying Men
Unsummon
Unsummon
Unsummon
19A WW win the race 134
19B WW to many flyers 81

17. mattw
Badlands
Inquisition of Kozilek
Lightning Bolt
Goblin Lackey
Lightning Crafter
19A TT I can take lackey or one of his removal, ether way he has 2 removal for my creatures, and nothing to attack with or 1 removal and I have to block when he attack with his lacky. DoH stops his lacky so if he take it with IoK then I have 2 creatures. 136
19B WL . I make 13 guys turn 4 he dies while i'm at 7 life. On the draw I lose to discard. 84

Swamp
Swarmyard
Nezumi Shortfang
Inquisition of Kozilek
Duress
19A WT I take Shortfang or land with blackmail. On the draw if he takes BM with duress I play SoW, if he takes Doh with IoK my creatures win the race, If he takes Storm then it a draw since I have to use DoH to kill Shortfang (and he will not play him till I play my guy). 140
19B LL Discard wins 84

18. yukizora
Grim Monolith
Power Artifact
Fireball
City of Traitors
Coalition Relic
19A WW he needs all his cards to win BM removes one of them. 146
19B LL hit me first. 84

Black Sun's Zenith
Red Sun's Zenith
White Sun's Zenith
Calciform Pools
Molten Slagheap
19A LL pretty sure I can't beat him. He has to hide his lands from my blackmail.
But has removal for my creatures no mater which Zenith I take. 146
19B LL BSZ wins it for him. 84

20. Cody Johns
Mountain
Fire-lit Thicket
Immolating Souleater
Assault Strobe
Unnatural Predation
19A WW Discard takes his souleater or land 152
19B LL 3rd turn 10/2 Double striker kills me. 84

Leyline of the Void
Swamp
Horrifying Revelation
Vault Skirge
Unholy Strength
19A WW My discard hits his Unholy Str his gets my DoH, and my SoW is bigger. 158
19B LL to the discard. 84

21. DerFisch
Saprazaan Skerry
Kozilek, Butcher of Truth
Grim Monolith
Power Artifact
Draco
19A WW Discard takes a land Grim mono or Power Art 164
19B WL On the Play he get his guys in play turn 3, on my turn 4 I make 20 1/1 flyers. He attacks I lose 5 when I block Butcher attack back with 15 of them he takes 14 or 15 damage, he attacks a gain I lose 5 (block butcher attack back for 9/10 damage. On the draw he atacks me dead before I get my flyers. 87

Saprazzan Skerry
Sandstone Needle
Bazaar Trader
Illusions of Grandeur
Phantasmal Image
19A WW discard takes a land or Grandeur and Stormscape kills Phantasmal Image. 170
19B LL 40 1/1 would have been cool, but can't pay for illusions. 87

22. Trag3dy
Tezzeret Agent of Bolas
Lotus Petal
Pentad Prism
Blinkmoth Nexus
Island
19A WW discard takes a land or agent of bolas, Blinkmoth not going to get there vs 2 creatures. 176
19B WL on The play Tezz comes into play turn 3 get hit for 5. On turn 4 I make 15 1/1. On the draw i'm at 5 when and 5 11 flyers isn't going to cut it vs 2 5/5 90

Aether Vial
Myr Superion
Raze
Mountain
Island
19A TT He can't win since I have to take Raze with Blackmail. Only option is not show me Raze and take myr or Vial and it a draw. If I get raze with balckmail my creatures and DoH beat his. 178
19B WW Raze us dead. Vial Turn 1 Turn 3 Myr comes in can't attack till turn 4. So I get 20 flyers on the Play and 15 on the Draw. 96

23. Jtrade77
Duress
Blinkmoth Nexus
Badlands
Crush
Phyrexian Revoker
19A WT Blackmail is taking a land or Revoker, and my SoW bigger then Nexus.
On the Draw Duress takes BM, I use stormscape to stop the nexus, if he plays revoker then DoH comes down and SoW goes the distance. Works out to a draw the other way too. 182
19B LL to discard. 96

City of Traitors
Grim Monolith
Voltaic Key
Platinum Angel
All is Dust
19A WW BM takes Mana or the angel, 1 Creature will live. 186
19B LL all is dust kills my token and not his angel. 96
24. WestWycke

Seachrome Coast
Lotus Petal
Blighted Agent
Blazing Shoal
Dragon Tyrant
19A WW On the play BM takes Agent or mana. On the draw BM takes Shoal, and Doh Kills Agent. Or BM takes Agent or mana. 192
19B LL turn 2 win for him. 96

Blackcleave Cliffs
Crookshank Kobolds
Culling the Weak
Soul Foundry
Vebulid
19A WL, Play I take soul Foundry on the draw I pretty sure his swarm of creatures grown much bigger then mine. I'l take the lose to not try to figure our SoW, DoH interaction with him making or not making a creature every turn. 195
19B WW most damage he can do to me is like 2 by the time I drop my 1/1 flyers.
102

25. dfitzg88
swamp
peat bog
liliana's specter
innocent blood
duress
19A WW Blackmail takes land or Specter. On the draw Duress takes BM. Spector takes DoH. My 3/3 SoW and 1/1 races his specter. 201
19B LL to duress. 102

bayou
helix pinnacle
innocent blood
innocent blood
duress
19A WL BM take Innocent blood or a land. Duress takes BM and I lose both creature to blood. 204
19B LL Discard. 102
26. djcards

Phyrexian Dreadnought
Phyrexian Dreadnought
Stifle
Stifle
Saprazzan Skerry
19A WW Blackmail kills one dreadnaught DoH kills the other. My second creature wins. On the draw I play Stormscape, and wait till he plays Naught, then I play DoH. He hits once, plays the second one, loses Naught, I play nothing and just tap the nought with Stormscape and then he loses it. If he doesn't play it i'll BM it out of his hand 210
19B LL to big to fast. 102

Glint Hawk
Menite
Kor Skyfisher
Contested War Zone
Plains
19A WW BM takes land or Skyfisher or Menite. DoH deals with creatures. If he holds the creatures my SoW get to big for him to deal with and I have a tapper. 216
19B Tw on the play I take 11 by before my guys show up so I have 9 1/1. if he attacks with one I chump and take his warzone with 5 guys in the air (16) leaving 3 back to black his counter attack killing one of his guys, and keeping the warzone then swing with 5 (6) I now have 5 guys and his warzone. If he attack back he has blocker goes to 2 then dead. If he doesn't I keep warzone and he dead. Works the same if he doesn't attack back. Wow that one took about 30min to figure out.
Lose on the draw. 105

27. stab107
Island
Sheltered Valley
Blighted Agent
Blighted Agent
Cloak and Dagger
19A WW I take one agent with BM and the other dies to DoH 222
19B WL dies to 20 flyers. Since he can't kill me by turn 5 111 EDIT it WL -3 points.

Plains
Plains
Student of Warfare
Student of Warfare
Brave the Elements
19A WW BM takes SoW DoH doesn't target and kills the second one. 228
19B Wl at 16 life turn 4 on the play. At 10 life on the draw but BtE wins it for him. 114

28. Goaswerfraiejen
Chancellor of the Forge
Blazing Shoal
Blazing Shoal
Reaper King
Reaper King
19A WL discard get rid of half his dame. DoH the other. 231
19B LL 114

Tidehollow Sculler
Vault Skirge
Ornithopter
Vault of Whispers
Mox Opal
19A WW on the play he loses Sculer or mana. SoW out races him or DoH kill his creatures. On the Draw he Sculers DoH. BM takes Skirger, and my creatures win the race. 237
19B LL Discard 114

29. Myy
City of Traitors
Lotus Petal
Phyrexian Dreadnought
Phyrexian Dreadnought
Torpor Orb
19A WL on the play BM takes a nought and DoH kill the other one. On the draw. He get 2 attacks before I can kill both his noughts. 230
19B LL to fast 114

Swamp
Lotus petal
Lotus petal
Inquisition of Kozilek
Tidehollow Sculler
19A WT on the play BM takes IoK, and TS loses to DoH or get out raced by my creatures. On the draw I lose DoH and SoW, Storm locks up Sculer. 234
19B LL discard 114

30. SageShadows
Great Furnace
Lucent Liminid
Wings of Velis Vel
Kuldotha Rebirth
Jace, Memory Adept
19A WW 3 1/1 die to DoH or SoW 240
19B WW I make more then 3 1/1 turn 4 and mine fly. 120

City of Traitors
Lotus Petal
Torpor Orb
Phyrexian Dreadnought
Mind Rot
19A WW turn 1 I BM away mind rot, and DoH will kill his Nought. On the draw I discard BM and DoH. And my Stormscape locks down dreadnaught while my SoW wins. 246
19B LL 120

31. WCFmo

Leyline of the Void
Encroach
Inquisition of Kozilek
Swamp
Sarcomancy

19A WL on the play i take IoK or sarcomancy. on the draw Encroach wins. 252
19B WL at 14 when i get my guys. Discard. 123

Chancellor of the Forge
Mutagenic Growth
Tainted Strike
Blazing Shoal
Swamp

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    1a 1b 2a 2b 3a 3b 4a 4b 5a 5b 6a 6b 7a 7b 8a 8b 9a 9b
26a 6  6  3  6  3  3  0  0  0  6  0  x  x  6  x  x  3  0
26b 6  6  3  6  6  0  0  0  6  6  0  x  x  0  x  x  3  3
    10a 10b 11a 11b 12a 12b 13a 13b 14a 14b 15a 15b 16a 16b
26a 0   3   6   6   6       0       6   6
26b 3   3   6   6   6       3       0   6
    17a 17b 18a 18b 19a 19b 20a 20b 21a 21b 22a 22b 23a 23b
26a 6
26b 1
    24a  25a 25b 27a 27b 28a 28b 29a 29b 30a 30b 31a 31b
26a      2   0   6   6   0   6   2   0   6   2   3   0
26b      6   6   6   6   3   6   0   3   6   0   6   3

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## 17A 17B 18A 18B 19A 19B 20A 20B 21A 21B 22A 22B 23A 23B
12A 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 2 0 0 6 0 0 2
12B 6 1 6 0 0 3 6 6 6 6 3 6 6 4

## 24A 24B 25A 25B 26A 26B 27A 27B 28A 28B 29A 29B 30A 30B
12A 0 0 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
12B 6 3 2 1 6 6 6 6 0 6 3 3 6 4

## 31A 31B
12A 2 0
12B 4 3

12A total: 35
12B total: 211

UGH. Of course. No awards....

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Originally posted by ryan2754:
12A total: 35
12B total: 208

UGH. Of course. No awards....

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Keep your fingers crossed for this one:

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JEKYLL/HYDE: Greatest point difference between the two decks

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24A total - 178
24B total - 94

Mattw (17) You have your A deck(goblins) going WW vs my B deck(Vebulid). But on the play, I can get a draw against you. I empty my hand, you play Lackey. I make a Vebulid, you must bolt it so lackey can get through and bring out Crafter. I make a Vebulid. If you try to kill me with Crafter, my Vebulids will overwhelm you the turn before you can kill me. So you have to use the Crafter to keep the Vebulid population from growing.

Jtrade77 (23) You have your A deck going WW against my A deck. You go WL. On the play I play land, Petal, Agent. You can Duress my Shoal, but I will still kill you in 10 turns from poison. You can’t stop it and you can’t do 20 damage in 9 turns.

Trag3dy (22) I don’t understand your method showing scores, but I believe you’re wrong somewhere as you can’t possibly get a 3 point score against me. My A deck(Blighted Agent) always kills you on my turn 2, too fast for either of your decks. My B deck loses to Tezzeret(your artifacts are too big too fast) but will draw with your Myr by simply playing swamp, Vebulid, Kobold and waiting. A chump block with the Kobold will give me the time I need to get the Vebulid to 6/6 where he can trade with the Myr for the draw.

Goaswerfraiejen (28) You have your A deck going WL against my B deck. You go WD. I can’t put the Vebulid in the Soul Foundry when I go first, or I have no blocker. So I have to hardcast it and trade with your token for the draw.

Stab107 (27) You have your B deck going LL against my B deck. You go WL. On the play, the pressure you bring with a turn 2 3/3 first striker is too much. I can’t get big enough Vebulids in time. I just barely beat you when you’re on the draw.

Bugger (5) You have your A deck going WL against my A deck. You go DL. On the play, you must play Farm turn 1 to be prepared to Crib Swap my Agent before I kill you. I will attack you but not play my red cards so you can’t invalidate them by responding to them. You can Swap any time you want before I poison you to death, but you can’t play Isamaru until after you Swap or you will give me an opening for the red cards kill. Once you have Swapped, I will use the red cards on the token to trade it with Isamaru for a draw.

Ryan2754(12) You have your B deck going WL against my A deck. You go WW. On the draw, you Inquisition my Shoal so I can’t kill you on my turn 2, and then eventually Edict my Agent so I can’t kill you at all.

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"If you're right 90% of the time, why quibble about the other 3% ?"

that is all.

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Originally posted by WestWycke:
Stab107 (27) You have your B deck going LL against my B deck. You go WL. On the play, the pressure you bring with a turn 2 3/3 first striker is too much. I can’t get big enough Vebulids in time. I just barely beat you when you’re on the draw.

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This is how I have it running out:

Scenario 1:
T1: Land, Student1
T1: Cliffs, Kobold, Cull, Foundry Imprinting Vebulid
T2: Lvl. up (2) 3/3 FS, bash 17
T2: Make Vebulid 1/1
T3: Lvl. up (4) 3/3 FS, bash 14
T3: Make Vebulid 1/1, 2/2
T4: Lvl. up (6) 3/3 FS, bash 11
T4: Make Vebulid 1/1, 2/2, 3/3
T5: Lvl. up (7) 4/4 DS, Student2, bash - chump 1/1
T5: Make Vebulid 1/1, 3/3, 4/4
T6: Lvl. up Student2 (2) 3/3 FS, bash w/ Student1 - chump 1/1
T6: Make Vebulid 1/1, 4/4, 5/5
T7: Students can no longer profitably attack as 5/5 kills 4/4DS and 4/4 kills 3/3 FS, leaving a 1/1 Vebulid to work me down.

Scenario 2:
T1: Land, Student1
T1: Cliffs, Kobold, Cull, Foundry Imprinting Vebulid
T2: Lvl. up (2) 3/3 FS, bash 17
T2: Make Vebulid 1/1
T3: Student2, Lvl. up (1) 3/3 FS, bash 14
T3: Make Vebulid 1/1, 2/2
T4: Lvl. up Student2(3) 3/3 FS, Lvl. up Student1 (4) bash 8
T4: Make Vebulid 1/1, 2/2, 3/3
T5: Lvl. up Student1 (6) bash 5 - chump 1/1
T5: Make Vebulid 1/1, 3/3, 4/4
T6: Lvl. up Student1 (7) 4/4 DS, bash w/Student1 it gets gang blocked and dies or bash w/both and the 4/4DS gets chumped and the 3/3 FS dies. I don't see me getting a win out of this one either.
T6: Make Vebulid 1/1, 4/4, 5/5 - That's GG because the big Vebulid's can take out Students, leaving the new ones to build up to a point where they smash me.

EDIT: Also, my A goes DL1 against 15A, rather than DD2. Fixed; ultimately, my points are unchanged.

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"I have heard the mermaids singing, each to each. I do not think they will sing to me." -T.S. Eliot

RIP Ari

1A LL / LL
1B LL / WW (What, a 1/1? KILL IT, WITH FIRE)

2A LL / LL
2B WW / WW (Whaaat's that deck?)

3A WW / WW (Combo or two 2/2 cat kills him)
3B WW / LL

Again... I could be wrong and don't mean to sound like a D.

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Originally posted by AGO:
Seems I get zero's across the board since both my decks are banned! Guess I should read better. Oh well. Hope there is a UBER fail prize like a foil Chimmney Imp or something.

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Originally posted by AGO:
Seems I get zero's across the board since both my decks are banned! Guess I should read better. Oh well. Hope there is a UBER fail prize like a foil Chimmney Imp or something.

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Next time read, join for fun not just to get free stuff.

yakusoku
1A - WW. Commandeer takes care of False Cure but the cutters outrace you.
1B - WW.

Magic1264
2A - WL. On the play I outrace blossom even if/when you wait and chump the cutters. On the draw you win.
2B - WW

MagicDX
3A - LL
3B - LL

LemonMeringue
4A - LL
4B - LL. 'pox and ghast wear me down.

Masterwolf
6A - LL

JoshSherman
7B - WW. You're too slow.

ExtremeEagle
9A - DL. I won't ever attack into you, and 2 2/2's mean that if you try to go all-out I can hang on at 1 life and then outclass you, so you won't attack into me either.
9B - WL

MAB_Rapper
10A - DL.
10B - LL

Daner
11A - WW
11B - WL

ryan2754
12A - DD
12B - WL

junichi
13A - WL
13B - LL. Encroach wrecks me.

WeedIan
14A - LL
14B - LL

Numotflame96
15A - WL
15B - WW

dwiz
16A - WW
16B - WW

mattw
17A - LL. Inquisition, bolt, and crafter is enough removal to end me.
17B - WL

yukizora
18A - LL
18B - WW

TimeBeing
19A - LL. Blackmail forces me to combo right away on the play, and drop of honey sweeps my cutters.
19B - WW. Combo goes off, on the play I kill you before the lotuses come back in, on the draw you cast storm herd at 2 life.

VividDeathPanda
20A - WW
20B - WD

DerFisch
21A - WL
21B - LL

Trag3dy
22A - DD. If you ever attack with the 5/5 I can race you.
22B - WD.

Jtrade77
23A - WW
23B - LL

WestWycke
24A - LL
24B - WL

dfitzg88
25A - LL
25B - LL

djcards
26A - LL
26B - LL

stab107
27A - WD
27B - WL

Goas
28A - DL
28B - WL

Myy
29A - LL
29B - WD. on the draw you sculler away one of my cutters, so if I trade it with the other one I end up winning, so you can only force a draw.

SageShadows
30A - WW
30B - LL

WCFmo
31A - WL
31B - WL