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ErikTheMighty
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posted October 20, 2013 10:44 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for ErikTheMighty Click Here to Email ErikTheMighty Send a private message to ErikTheMighty Click to send ErikTheMighty an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
I think this is our pal again. He's using the handle "TheDarkAngel", all the refs are several years old, location is Canada, and the listed email is a hotmail account.

He proposed a trade to me and was very pushy. I got suspicious and checked him out a little more, then decided to play along for a minute and see what happened. He was quick to reply and accommodating of my requests up until I told him to send first. Here's a transcript of our messages in reverse order.

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Sure. Mind shipping first? All your references are from years ago.
----- Original Message -----
Yea ok i guess i dont really need them anyway

Confirm that we have a deal so we can exchange adress and ship as soon as possible!

Thx
----- Original Message -----
Throw in a temple?

----- Original Message -----
Ill give you 2 ooze and 1 obzedat for your mesa
Give me some news
----- Original Message -----
You know what, make me an offer out of the cards you've listed. I'll want a bit of a premium too since its your standard for my modern

----- Original Message -----
Yea jap is no problem. I need to make a new list though, mine was badly outdated

Give me some news
----- Original Message -----
Hey yeah, I think there's a potential trade in there. Do you care if the mesa is Japanese?

I'll take a look at your list and through these cards listed and make you an offer.

----- Original Message -----
Hey i really need 1 arid mesa!

I have: 2 scavenging ooze, 1 obzedat, 3 temple of deceipt, 1 sacred foundry and 1 heros downfall

Pretty sure we can make something, give me some news!

Thx

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"As if you could kill time without injuring eternity?"

 
ErikTheMighty
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posted October 20, 2013 10:45 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for ErikTheMighty Click Here to Email ErikTheMighty Send a private message to ErikTheMighty Click to send ErikTheMighty an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
This dude is one bored sociopath
 
cavetroll7
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posted October 25, 2013 09:15 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for cavetroll7 Click Here to Email cavetroll7 Send a private message to cavetroll7 Click to send cavetroll7 an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
wow! glad i thought to check this thread! i have a deal going with TheDarkAngel right now. all the refs are from at least 8 years ago. glad i haven't shipped yet.
 
mini1337s
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posted November 17, 2013 06:15 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for mini1337s Click Here to Email mini1337s Send a private message to mini1337s Click to send mini1337s an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
Just realized that the impersonation from my thread (http://classic.magictraders.com/ubb/Forum4/HTML/005453.html) matches Strickland's address.
 
Blackmage907
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posted November 19, 2013 01:59 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for Blackmage907 Send a private message to Blackmage907 Click to send Blackmage907 an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
Yeah I got ripped by Thedarkangel. I just filed mail fraud. I lost 100 dollars worth of cards. I have a really modest collection so this was actually a really big hit to me. This guy is really ****ing me off.
 
Traposse
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posted November 27, 2013 11:24 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for Traposse Click Here to Email Traposse Send a private message to Traposse Click to send Traposse an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
Seems like this guy haven't anything better to do in his life...
 
wisknudde
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posted November 28, 2013 04:10 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for wisknudde Click Here to Email wisknudde Send a private message to wisknudde Click to send wisknudde an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
I am very happy to see that people are informing others about such people.

But if I might add; didnt people filed mailfraud against this 'person'? And what happened with these files? Seeing that this 'person' has quite the record (and still growing) concerning practises like these.....Would filing mailfraud be a paper tiger then in such situation?

I have absolutely no knowledge concerning the canadian authorities nor with the law for that matter. I just wonder how this can be possible

 
implode
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posted November 28, 2013 05:35 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for implode Click Here to Email implode Send a private message to implode Click to send implode an Instant MessageVisit implode's Homepage  Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by wisknudde:
I am very happy to see that people are informing others about such people.

But if I might add; didnt people filed mailfraud against this 'person'? And what happened with these files? Seeing that this 'person' has quite the record (and still growing) concerning practises like these.....Would filing mailfraud be a paper tiger then in such situation?

I have absolutely no knowledge concerning the canadian authorities nor with the law for that matter. I just wonder how this can be possible


I wonder if authorities see trading cards, think overgrown adults playing a kids game. Figure its not a priority. Think values are overinflated/overstated. I have a hard time convincing friends who don't play that 1) its a fun game and 2) my cards hold any monetary value. They find it totally inconceivable. Common misconception is I rip off little kids to make money.

 
Volcanon
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posted November 28, 2013 06:30 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for Volcanon Click Here to Email Volcanon Send a private message to Volcanon Click to send Volcanon an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
OK so I'm an articled student, which in the US would translate to "junior attorney".

If you want some legal help for this sort of thing feel free to e-mail me.

 
Goaswerfraiejen
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posted November 29, 2013 05:12 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for Goaswerfraiejen Click Here to Email Goaswerfraiejen Send a private message to Goaswerfraiejen Click to send Goaswerfraiejen an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by wisknudde:

But if I might add; didnt people filed mailfraud against this 'person'? And what happened with these files?


Yes. Nothing. The RCMP put it on the backburner and forgot about it. So far as I know, however, I'm the only one who bothered to file for mail fraud. If more people had done so/do so, the case may well get a proper look.

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RIP Ari

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SNUFFEDxOUT
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He changed his eBay name again to hashirama234.
 
Stryphos
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posted December 10, 2013 06:11 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for Stryphos Send a private message to Stryphos Click to send Stryphos an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Blackmage907:
Yeah I got ripped by Thedarkangel. I just filed mail fraud. I lost 100 dollars worth of cards. I have a really modest collection so this was actually a really big hit to me. This guy is really ****ing me off.

Add me to the list. I was aware of John Strickland and a location in Texas but didn't see this until too late ... also lost out on over $100 in cardboard :-(

 
Megadeus
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posted December 17, 2013 11:31 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for Megadeus Click Here to Email Megadeus Send a private message to Megadeus Click to send Megadeus an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
Add on the MOTL handle LT. DO NOT TRADE WITH LT. Same MO. Gave me a deal I couldnt not look at, so I checked and of course, no refs since 2005, from canada, hotmail. Also he posted the good old "Give me some news".

DO NOT TRADE WITH LT

 
timmerman121
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posted December 17, 2013 09:47 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for timmerman121 Send a private message to timmerman121 Click to send timmerman121 an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
so can we get the first post updated with all these new found accounts please??? so people dont have to read 5 pages worth of info
 
Tha Gunslinga
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posted December 18, 2013 06:41 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for Tha Gunslinga Click Here to Email Tha Gunslinga Send a private message to Tha Gunslinga Click to send Tha Gunslinga an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote View Tha Gunslinga's Trade Auction or SaleView Tha Gunslinga's Trade Auction or Sale
quote:
Originally posted by Megadeus:
Add on the MOTL handle LT. DO NOT TRADE WITH LT. Same MO. Gave me a deal I couldnt not look at, so I checked and of course, no refs since 2005, from canada, hotmail. Also he posted the good old "Give me some news".

DO NOT TRADE WITH LT


So were you planning on contacting a moderator so LT could be dealt with? Because if I hadn't just randomly run across it here, I would have had no idea.

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Megadeus
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posted December 18, 2013 07:26 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for Megadeus Click Here to Email Megadeus Send a private message to Megadeus Click to send Megadeus an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Tha Gunslinga:
So were you planning on contacting a moderator so LT could be dealt with? Because if I hadn't just randomly run across it here, I would have had no idea.


I've never had to report a bad trader or a sketchy person before. I honestly dont know how

 
Goaswerfraiejen
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posted December 18, 2013 08:01 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for Goaswerfraiejen Click Here to Email Goaswerfraiejen Send a private message to Goaswerfraiejen Click to send Goaswerfraiejen an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Megadeus:
I've never had to report a bad trader or a sketchy person before. I honestly dont know how

Well, there's a forum devoted to that.

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RIP Ari

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TheStygian
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posted January 11, 2014 08:12 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for TheStygian Click Here to Email TheStygian Send a private message to TheStygian Click to send TheStygian an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
It may seem overbearing, or unnecessarily difficult to newer traders, but what about making any newer traders use a third party for shipping? It increases costs, but protects both ends. Other trading sites have a number of mods that do this and get conpensated with a card or two for their trouble. If both people have to ship to a third party and that person waits until both packages show up to ship either, no one loses cards.
 
chaos021
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posted January 12, 2014 05:10 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for chaos021 Click Here to Email chaos021 Send a private message to chaos021 Click to send chaos021 an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote View chaos021's Have/Want ListView chaos021's Have/Want List
quote:
Originally posted by TheStygian:
It may seem overbearing, or unnecessarily difficult to newer traders, but what about making any newer traders use a third party for shipping? It increases costs, but protects both ends. Other trading sites have a number of mods that do this and get conpensated with a card or two for their trouble. If both people have to ship to a third party and that person waits until both packages show up to ship either, no one loses cards.

Then I would never have started trading here. I'd just buy/sell on ebay or other trading sites.


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[Edited 1 times, lastly by chaos021 on January 12, 2014]

 
Mike_Sully
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posted January 23, 2014 10:16 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for Mike_Sully Click Here to Email Mike_Sully Send a private message to Mike_Sully Click to send Mike_Sully an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote View Mike_Sully's Trade Auction or SaleView Mike_Sully's Trade Auction or Sale
We have his address... am I the only person with a violence streak that thinks we should trade a baseball bat with a kneecap???
 
Goaswerfraiejen
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posted January 23, 2014 10:45 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for Goaswerfraiejen Click Here to Email Goaswerfraiejen Send a private message to Goaswerfraiejen Click to send Goaswerfraiejen an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Mike_Sully:
We have his address... am I the only person with a violence streak that thinks we should trade a baseball bat with a kneecap???

Yes. Your threat is empty and your proposal idiotic.

Besides which, the cops take aggravated assault very seriously. They may not care about mail fraud, but they definitely care about assault. It's not worth the jail time.

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RIP Ari

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MeddlingMage
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quote:
Originally posted by Mike_Sully:
We have his address... am I the only person with a violence streak that thinks we should trade a baseball bat with a kneecap???

~MM

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My vote this round will be for Player X.

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chaos021
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posted January 23, 2014 02:04 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for chaos021 Click Here to Email chaos021 Send a private message to chaos021 Click to send chaos021 an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote View chaos021's Have/Want ListView chaos021's Have/Want List
quote:
Originally posted by Mike_Sully:
We have his address... am I the only person with a violence streak that thinks we should trade a baseball bat with a kneecap???

I'll grab some popcorn. Make sure you keep the cameras rolling.

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My Sale Thread

 
KGtheLegend
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posted January 23, 2014 02:51 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for KGtheLegend Click Here to Email KGtheLegend Send a private message to KGtheLegend Click to send KGtheLegend an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by chaos021:
I'll grab some popcorn. Make sure you keep the cameras rolling.


+1

 
hilikuS
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If they ever go to arrest this guy, be sure to grab some footage.
 

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