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Originally posted by dwiz:
Yeah, it's fantastic that he's building up a rep with these little deals. In a couple weeks/month he'll start nailing people for big deals. Why anyone would trade with anybody named John Strickland on any site is beyond belief. Anybody deserves what they get when this guy starts ripping you off again.

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Has he used a US address before?

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Originally posted by chaos021:
Has he used a US address before?

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No, but Tarheel Resellers is a company based out of Texas. They fact that he stole their name and is using it for a magic card front should be a big giveaway. He's not an employee, and how many John Stricklands are out there playing magic AND trading on this site?

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Originally posted by gaeacradle:
Are you guys absolutely sure that tarheelresellers is John Strictland? I met up with him in Austin to buy some cards from him and he told me his name is Blake.

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Originally posted by Negator77:
Same here. His msgs and his return address on the package both used Blake and came from Austin, TX. I simply used the paypal address he sent me (thrinc2014@gmail.com) and thought nothing of it since the deal was so small. My paypal statement does list that paypal account as John Strickland.

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Originally posted by dwiz:
It's a lot easier to put a fake return address on your package and use a fake email name than to create a fake bank account and fake paypal name, correct? What is a legitimate reason for him to be using John Strickland on his bank account name if he is Blake?

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Originally posted by dwiz:
It's a lot easier to put a fake return address on your package and use a fake email name than to create a fake bank account and fake paypal name, correct? What is a legitimate reason for him to be using John Strickland on his bank account name if he is Blake?

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It's a fairly common name so it's not surprising that someone else out there uses it.

I was merely inquiring if there there were any issues with him, I did not mean to imply that he was "ripping" me. In fact, my interaction and exchange was most favorable and I would do business again.

I know that twice I had done business with a confirmed banned guy (without knowing, both were hacked accounts), I think it was this guy. First time I didn't realize he was banned, and we completed a transaction (he paid first). Second time I think Jaz alerted me of it before I sent the goods and I refunded his paypal funds. Either time I wouldn't have been scammed.

So I mean, to me it's totally possible it's the same guy trying to build up rep. I remember seeing that user ID, the tar heels one on the boards before, but not in awhile. Are we sure it's not a banned account that's been hacked?

I guess maybe I was thinking of another member.

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<Jazaray> that would also be a nice addition
<thror> but you can wish in one hand and **** in the other...
<Jazaray> lol
<Jazaray> yeah
<Jazaray> I ****ing hate scammers.
<KIP_NZ> Jazaray: I'm very interested to know what his reply to you "um when did you move" email
<thror> i mean, all of his refs are from 01/02
<Jazaray> should I ask that?
<thror> and the flat refusal for 3rd party is dead giveaway
<thror> oh yea
<thror> ask him when
<thror> he'll say never
<thror> dont say from where, just ask when he moved
<thror> another of the refs ' don't need to worry about the overseas.'
<Jazaray> yeah, but a lot of people consider Canada "overseas"
<KIP_NZ> yer the old refs, location change and hotmail address
<KIP_NZ> all smell fuuuuuunnny
<Jazaray> I just know he's not John
<Jazaray> I wonder who he is
<KIP_NZ> Jazaray: http://web.archive.org/web/20080228231827/http://forums.magictraders.com/ubbmisc.cgi?action=getbio&UserName=MacNam...
<Jazaray> from the looks of some of the comments he left, he doesn't have THAT good of a grasp on the english language
<Jazaray> damn
<Jazaray> he did his research
<Jazaray> i moved to canada from argentina in 2004 my dad is canadian my mom is from argentina why would you ask that.
<Jazaray> all I asked was when he moved.
<Jazaray> then he also sent
<Jazaray> is it a crime too move????
<Jazaray> now he says
<Jazaray> i know my original profile said argentina and thats where i was back when i opened it i know you guys have that in your database
<Jazaray> it IS possible, I guess
<MOTLUser6> yeah i guess its impossible for people to move right ????? awesome to see what mods do around here
<Jazaray> yeah, figured that was you.
<MOTLUser6> oh yeah how was that ip adresses match
<Jazaray> IP addresses mean nothing.
<MOTLUser6> i told you i have nothing to hide
<Jazaray> absolutely nothing.
<Jazaray> they can be hidden or spoofed
<thror> then why the refusal to 3rd party
<Jazaray> his cousin doesn't like third partying.
<thror> his cousin can eat rocks
<MOTLUser6> oh yes i must be a thief cause i dont want to use a 3rd person for a trade
<thror> nope, but makes it harder to be a thief if you do
<Jazaray> I told you, you have NO recent refs. You have a hotmail account, which is extremely easy to hack. You refuse to do third party trading. You are from Ontario, Canada.
<MOTLUser6> sure ok yeah also makes for added risk but iguess all hail the mighty mods everyone should send them ther cards here a good point make it an official rule then people wont waste their time accusing people
<Jazaray> all those things together make you suspicious
<MOTLUser6> yes but without proof their false accusations
<Jazaray> you don't need to use a mod for third partying
<Jazaray> you can use members as well.
<thror> no, they arent false
<thror> they are unsubstantiated
<thror> they could still be true
<Jazaray> a lot of people just prefer to use a Mod.
<MOTLUser6> could is all maybes and not valid in court trust me my uncle is alayer
<MOTLUser6> lawyer
<thror> we dont give a ****
<thror> this isnt court
<Jazaray> I'm a hypocrite?
<MOTLUser6> yeah neither do i
<thror> just ban him anyway jaz
<Jazaray> Why don't you go look up the definition of that
<Jazaray> and how, exactly, am I fake?
<MOTLUser6> yes you are your being all nice in the emails and i turn around and your talking ****
<Jazaray> and people respect me because I protect them from people LIKE YOU.
<thror> no, im talking ****. shes trying to do her job
<MOTLUser6> ok please tell me exactly what it is your all saying ive done?
<Jazaray> I was being nice, because I'm a nice person.
<thror> the account you are using hasnt had a ref in 12 years
<Jazaray> and I have not been talking ****.
<thror> all of a sudden it comes back, refuses to 3rd party, and claims to be halfway across the world
<thror> FISHY AS ****
<Jazaray> you came into the room, RIGHT AFTER someone here showed me that your account was originally from another country.
<MOTLUser6> i never said i was halfway accross the world get some facks before you talk
<thror> argentina -> canada
<MOTLUser6> again is it wrong to come from another country???
<thror> no, but everything together is SUSPICIOUS
<MOTLUser6> yeah so what japan-canada- china canada is this a racial thing
<thror> now you're being an idiot
<Jazaray> wtf are you talking about?
<Jazaray> no, thror, I really think he didn't understand your comment.
<MOTLUser6> your the ****ing idiot i was just trying to trade ****ing magic cards and i stumble on a chat all about me i should actually feel priveledge
<MOTLUser6> you know what people move from different countries
<MOTLUser6> it happens btw look it up
<MOTLUser6> tell you what to shut all you guys up ill do a 3rd party with you jazaray no problem i didnt know you all did this behind peoples backs holly **** this is great

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Originally posted by coolio:
^solution: the old ways.. ban first, questions later..

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Originally posted by MacNamara:
ok slight overreaction maybe on my part ive agreed to a 3rd party on a large trade maybe people will leave me alone after.

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If it looks, walks and quacks like a duck...

If you want to be left alone, why are you here? If you want to trade cards, then get hip to how it is done here and make sure you are honorable and dependable and polite. That is if that is how you expect to be treated. Soon, more like, in a few years, you will acquire the reputation as someone who can trade responsibly with others. It really is just that simple.

Blowing a gasket because your attitude fits the description of some pretty undesirable types will not win you any glowing reviews.

Why the sense of entitlement that you should be trusted without any rep to back it up? Why is it a surprise that when you act (insert descriptive adjective here), people think you are (insert descriptive adjective here)?

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Originally posted by MacNamara:
I have been very nice with alot of members i also agreed to send 1st with established members but on larger trades is it not my right to at least ask to simul send???

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The size of a deal has no bearing on who sends first. Sending first is generally determined by references. Coming back after a long hiatus your trading partners absolutely have the right to be suspicious as many accounts have been hacked and people have been ripped off. Their suspicion is not to be taken as a personal affront as they are just trying to protect themselves. There is a jerk known as John Strickland who just happens to have made it tough for low ref members from Ontario to get established here, that is a simple fact.

If I were to enter into a deal with you today, whether it was for $10, $100 or $1,000, I would make it a priority to confirm that you would be sending first based on references. Your last confirmed reference was 12 years ago and that alone will cause members to be cautious.

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Originally posted by MacNamara:
I was very friendly with all the members except the one in the chat room who was very insulting and didnt even have a trade with or was this any of his buisness i understand the ref guidlines but how far will this go... should i assume any member with old refs is fishy and suspicious????when i look at most of the refs from members their all from old refs that dont trade anymore so should i raise a red flag.Also did anyone who accused me bother messaging members i traded with this week where i was glad to send 1st??? And isnt it my right as a member to choose how i want my tades done? If i have more refs than a new member then i should send 1st cause mine are old??? Oh and cause i dont want to use a 3rd party it makes me a scammer???

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Originally posted by MacNamara:
should i assume any member with old refs is fishy and suspicious????

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100% positively without a doubt, yes! If someone doesn't have any relatively recent refs, it is absolutely foolish to not tread carefully and take precautions against a hacked account. Yes, it sucks for returning members, but it's a necessary step to safe trading. In today's world you simply can't trust people at their word, and need to keep an eye out for red flags.

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"I was very friendly with all the members except the one in the chat room who was very insulting and didn't even have a trade with or was this any of business"

No, actually, you weren't. You've been quite rude with me. And yes, it IS his business. It is EVERYONE'S business to help stop rippers. Most of the time that we do end up stopping John, or Simon, or any other ripper, is because of our members. We encourage our members to take an active part in helping out our community.

"I understand the ref guidelines but how far will this go...should I assume any member with old refs is suspicious????when i look at most of the refs from members their all from old refs that dont trade anymore so should i raise a red flag."

Yes, yes you should be wary and yes, you should raise a red flag should that occur.

"Also did anyone who accused me bother messaging members i traded with this week where i was glad to send 1st??? "

There is no way for any member to tell that you've agreed to send first, unless they message the members and they tell them. So, the person(s) who PM'd members with their concerns about you had no way to tell if you agreed to send first to anyone until they PM'd them.

"And isnt it my right as a member to choose how i want my tades done?"

Absolutely. As it is everyone's right to refuse to trade with you, due to your rules. As it is also everyone's right to warn members when they think something fishy is going on with a member.

"If i have more refs than a new member then i should send 1st cause mine are old???"

No one said that.

"Oh and cause i dont want to use a 3rd party it makes me a scammer???"

No one said THAT either. That, along with the other concerns about your account, makes you suspicious, yes, but doesn't automatically make you a scammer.

Onto the rest:

Actually, the first email you received from a mod, was asking for you to provide proof that you are who you say you are, with an explanation of why the proof was needed. I know, I sent it.

And, judging by your posts, no you have not gotten the point. You keep harping on this "fact" thing, when the actual facts of the case were that your account raised quite a few red flags and warranted investigation.

FACT: Your most recent refs were from 2002.

FACT: You are from Ontario, Canada.

FACT: You have a Hotmail Account.

FACT: You were refusing to third party, and I even received communications from members stating that you were also refusing to send first.

FACT: Your account used to state that you lived in Argentina and now states that you live in Canada.

THOSE are the facts. Anyone who messaged me, or other members, was going off of those FACTS. You harp on people who were going off of these facts, stating that there was no proof and that they were wrong to raise the issue and that I was wrong to investigate it. Then you go and jump to conclusions yourself, except these conclusions had no actual fact behind them! Accusing me of telling people not to trade with you. Accusing me of insulting you. Accusing me of hypocrisy. None of that happened. None of that is fact.

I'm also not sure why you keep asking the question about "should you be wary about members with older refs..etc.." when I already answered you that, yes, yes you SHOULD be wary. You should be even MORE wary if they have as many facts associated with their account as you did.

You know, with the amount of facts there, I could have just outright banned your account and no one here would have blamed me. No one here would have had a problem with it. No one here would have batted an eye about it. Instead, I gave you a chance. And you pretty much spat in my face.

As I said in my second email to you, I AM sorry if you were offended by my asking for proof of who you are, but it is my job to protect this site and it's members and I would do it again.

Thanks,
Jazaray

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