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Originally posted by johnstown713:
If said new guy was an adult I see no problem. Say a local card store opens near you and cracks a bunch of product and starts selling singles to get inventory going. You need a card and they happen to have it marked $5 lower than it should be. Are you going to ask them to take another $5 from you. Fine line between ethics and capitalizing on scenarios to put bread on the table.

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I am older and perhaps would hope people would deal with others on the up and up.

It doesn't bother me if someone gets over by a few bucks in a trade. But in my mind, this was blatant thievery (I am not talking a magic card either). Sad, very sad.

If you are at a garage sale/flea market let the spoils be yours if you acquire a find. But the guy goes into a gaming place with fellow players and its acceptable behaviour. Tell me, if the guy walked up the shop owner and asked him if he would like to buy the cards and the shop owner offered him 50 bucks, what would you think then?

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Originally posted by paragondave:
You mean to say that you don't know the difference between putting food on the table and supporting your Magic the gathering hobby by taking advantage of people? Not a fine line at all.

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Originally posted by majicman:
Everyone trying to get over on everyone. And it is accepted in certain circles and that makes it okay?

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Welcome to life, this has been going on for as long as we have been a species. It's nothing new, really wish people would stop acting like it is.

Right or Wrong is no longer even a issue, fact is society says it's ok, so people continue.

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Originally posted by Mr.C:
No offense, but if I'm coming back to Magic after a three or four year hiatus, first thing I'll do is go to Google and type "Magic card store" and see what the heck everything is selling for. Oops.

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Originally posted by Devonin:
I speak up, and I don't care if my "buddy" gets ****ed off. That is theft, and I wouldn't want to be friends with someone who would do that anyway.

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Originally posted by Volcanon:
Actually it is not theft. Try again?

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Ever heard of false pretense or false representation? False representation is categorized under theft.

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Originally posted by paragondave:
I get the feeling that YOU are your many morally challenged friends.

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Originally posted by paragondave:
I get the feeling that YOU are your many morally challenged friends.

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You guys need to get with the guy this thread is about and do some business, he seems ripe for the picking;

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Originally posted by paragondave:
I get the feeling that YOU are your many morally challenged friends.

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Originally posted by paragondave:
All you guys that think it's cool to take advantage of other people because they aren't as hip as you, deserve whatever you get. You are all the same people looking for undervalued cards on the MOTL price guide that hasn't been updated in months and trying to score them from anyone you can take advantage of. Always the same people. Real class. What goes around comes around. I hope all of you become impotent so at least you don't pro-create.

You guys need to get with the guy this thread is about and do some business, he seems ripe for the picking;

http://classic.magictraders.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/025818.html

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Because clearly, a trade of collectible cardboard between two willing participants is more egregious than wishing for real maladies to strike people.

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Originally posted by majicman:
If the "new guy" seemed like a nice enough guy, I would of stepped in and said, he could use my cell phone to look up prices.

I never like to see a fellow magic player bent over in such a way.

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Originally posted by Devonin:
I speak up, and I don't care if my "buddy" gets ****ed off. That is theft, and I wouldn't want to be friends with someone who would do that anyway.

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Yeah that's not even close to theft. Guy getting frisked agreed to the transaction and willingly relinquished ownership of his stuff for some other stuff.

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Originally posted by AGO:
Hell yeah i'd step in and hand him my binder!

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Yeah everyone else at the table basically stopped all games and had their binders in hand waiting to be the next guy to trade with him. Unfortunately, he signed up for a draft before the trade and was called during the trade. It was clear that it wasn't first trade he's ever made, but I guess that makes him look even worse considering the outcome.

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Originally posted by paragondave:
All you guys that think it's cool to take advantage of other people because they aren't as hip as you, deserve whatever you get. You are all the same people looking for undervalued cards on the MOTL price guide that hasn't been updated in months and trying to score them from anyone you can take advantage of. Always the same people. Real class. What goes around comes around. I hope all of you become impotent so at least you don't pro-create.

You guys need to get with the guy this thread is about and do some business, he seems ripe for the picking;

http://classic.magictraders.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/025818.html

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I missed the part where supplementing income through transactions of a collectable card game by an exchange of two willing and able parties who respectfully agree upon their own values warrants me getting stoned to death.

*Willing able and competent individuals must be 18 years or older unless trade is accompanied by an adult.

On a side note I was 14 when I started buying and selling cards because its in my nature to wheel and deal. I didn't have to work in high school because I made enough profit from online transactions each month. I WAS 14! I'd bet 95% of everyone I dealt with on a daily basis was a lot older than I was. I'd also put good money on them thinking they got the best of me due to my age. I took a 4 year hiatus recently and before I started throwing money around frivolously again recently I did a little homework. If you have money to buy playsets of high end tourney cards then you have resources to obtain values. But low and behold value ultimately rests in the perception of ones desire in any given moment. For all you know both "new guy" and said "scumbag" exited that transaction as happy as could be.

You took advantage of someone. Yeah, maybe its his responsibility to know the value of his cards. But that doesn't stop you and the trader from being bad people for not telling him the true value.

If you want confirmation that you all did a good job, then here it is.