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Originally posted by mcelraca:
Why are all of you only willing to help people with disabilities?

If you're asking me they should be treated as equals out of respect. I personally enjoy preying on children and the weak of mind.

Better deals for me, right guys?

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Guys, this thread really helped me out, I got a story for you all. So some new guy just opened a box and I wanted to see what he got, after a couple minutes of talking I found out that he only plays edh, only black and blue, and only mill. And he desperately needed traumatize and the new xUB spell. And I had both! So after looking at what he got, I saw a breed pool, sacred foudry and aurelia. So he said, rare for rare? And I almost jumped at it, but then I remembered about this thread and how some people would be super disappointed at me and superior moral me so I took a deep breathe and thought for a second. Then I said "sorry dude, I don't really need the breeding pool and sacred foundry, they are just lands. I don't think I can make the trade."

He replied "come on man, I really need those cards"

I said "I mean, I guess I can let them go for the two lands and the aurelia, if you wanna do that"

Him: "yeah, that's cool, I don't play those colors"

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Originally posted by rockondon:
It is interesting that someone who had cards like that for trade was so unaware of their value. I would be taking a close look at them to make sure they aren't fakes. I have seen fakes that were extremely convincing.

And if the guy who was so happy about ripping off the new guy discovered that he was the one that was ripped, that would be poetic in a way.

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I would love to see the guys face when he found out.

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Originally posted by marlo213:
Guys, this thread really helped me out, I got a story for you all. So some new guy just opened a box and I wanted to see what he got, after a couple minutes of talking I found out that he only plays edh, only black and blue, and only mill. And he desperately needed traumatize and the new xUB spell. And I had both! So after looking at what he got, I saw a breed pool, sacred foudry and aurelia. So he said, rare for rare? And I almost jumped at it, but then I remembered about this thread and how some people would be super disappointed at me and superior moral me so I took a deep breathe and thought for a second. Then I said "sorry dude, I don't really need the breeding pool and sacred foundry, they are just lands. I don't think I can make the trade."

He replied "come on man, I really need those cards"

I said "I mean, I guess I can let them go for the two lands and the aurelia, if you wanna do that"

Him: "yeah, that's cool, I don't play those colors"

$$ 4 me. thank guys, couldn't have done it without y'all!

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Originally posted by AEther Storm:
Either I misunderstand you and you didn't get 2 lands + Aurelia for your crap, or you are just asking to get burned on this site.

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Originally posted by Lord Crovax:
or he is trolling, which he has been doing since he joined.

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Originally posted by wild-ravager:
I work for a car dealership and breaking even and loosing money are/is bad for business yes I've made my fair share of deals and been called a shark I never backed down at the time and I've been ripped off plenty of times but if I was presented a deal that's in my favor its not my job to inform the "new guy" he is wrong it is his problem he didn't check the value

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working for a car dealership is NOT the same as being a random customer in a card shop. how you equate the 2, i have no idea.

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Originally posted by wild-ravager:
Cuz to some ppl its a business I'm in no way saying I do those trades anymore unless I straight up hate the guy but the reference does make sense but as I just stated "I in no way do that anymore" I now price everything up on at least 3-5 different sites but anyone that is in magic to make money would do that trade am I saying its wrong if the guy doesn't care no but a little kid yes

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Holy cow, punctuation is your friend. I can't actually understand your train of thought.

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Originally posted by Bugger:
Holy cow, punctuation is your friend. I can't actually understand your train of thought.

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Originally posted by thror:
working for a car dealership is NOT the same as being a random customer in a card shop. how you equate the 2, i have no idea.

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Originally posted by Zeckk:
No, but neither are they polar opposites. Yes, it's a trading card game, but it's one in which cards have specific values. This is the part that bugs me about the guys saying it's not cool to make the trade - No one is putting any blame on the guy that walks into the card shop without doing his homework. He was trading competitive-player lorwyn stuff, which means he was playing at a time when online price guides were available AND ubiquitous. Do we blame the car maker when an elderly driver is so bad at driving that they plow through a bunch of kids waiting at a bus stop? No, we blame the driver that obviously shouldn't have been behind the wheel in the first place. it's dumb that I have to outline an extreme example, but the arguments that the "new guy" has no culpability simply because he's new is a trash argument.

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The people who step in when they aren't wanted/needed and other annoying archetypes are why I barely trade in real life anymore. Online stores and traders are both pretty competitive and I often get a better deal anyway.

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Originally posted by Zeckk:
Given that I'm not a small man, yes, I would definitely get in your face. Because you lack comprehension. The idiot in my example was accusing the guy I was trading with of ripping me off, because in his haste to "rescue someone from a bad deal", he failed to notice that my sinkholes were in SP to MP condition, which made the trade fair value. So I told him, loud enough for the rest of the store to hear, to pull his head out of his ass and stay out of trades he's not involved in. It seems you suffer from the same ignorance as that kid; too eager to right a perceived wrong, and no time to let pesky facts get in the way of your moral crusade.

But keep on thinking that you are morally superior because you can make snap judgements without context. I heard it worked out for our previous president pretty well...

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Originally posted by paragondave:
you make me laugh out loud.

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Originally posted by Bugger:
Give it a couple more replies, Dave, I'm sure a comparison to Hitler lurks in your near future

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For all those that must make a significant profit in a trade, perhaps you should wear a helmet for us to identify you (dunce cap not-withstanding, but a shark fin hat will suffice) so we know who you are in it for profit and not for the game that it is.

Again, this is a morals issue. If you yourself want to sc..w your fellow magic player like the OP shared then by all means, do so. Losing out on a trade for a few bucks is no big deal. This guy was virtually handed his a.. and people were so happy to get a soda for their friends conquest.

This thread continues to show how badly magic has evolved to and I am wondering, generationally, where the divide (if at all), falls in regards to folks being morally bankrupt with trading.

Heck, if the guy just said, hey, I am getting too good of a deal and came up to the 10-15% difference, he still would of made a pretty big profit and this thread would be a non-issue. It's an issue because it is/was a significant amount.

Time to shut down this topic...the morally bankrupt will not learn until they themselves are on the other side of a bad deal.

-4 dark confidant (10)
-4 mutavault (8)
-4 cryptic command (4)
-3 damnation (10)
-3 thoughtseize (12)
-4 bitterblossom (5)
-6 venser shaper savant (2.5)
-4 sower of temptation (2.5)
-2 tarmogoyf (50)

If this person was in a MTG place, I would like to believe that someone would have stepped in and said something, ****, anything.

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Originally posted by harbingerofthevoid:
I read the first page and the last page. So if by this:

-4 dark confidant (10)
-4 mutavault (8)
-4 cryptic command (4)
-3 damnation (10)
-3 thoughtseize (12)
-4 bitterblossom (5)
-6 venser shaper savant (2.5)
-4 sower of temptation (2.5)
-2 tarmogoyf (50)

If this person was in a MTG place, I would like to believe that someone would have stepped in and said something, ****, anything.

I'm really hoping that the OP's "friend" got nailed on a whole slew of counterfeit cards.

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A trade like that would probably attract the attention of half the store. And as you attach prices to your cards of what they were worth a few years ago when you played last, surely if you were off then some of the onlookers would say something - no? Its a big trade but you are emboldened by the fact that if you were about to be ripped, surely at least one of the onlookers would be a decent human being and say something.

Now imagine how that guy feels now that he knows how horribly wrong he was. Every person knew he was being bent over...not one of them said anything.

I find this story sickening.

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Originally posted by rockondon:
Imagine that you are the new guy. You probably haven't played in a while and you go into a new place and you're surrounded by strangers and yet, considering that they play the same game you do, they are kindred spirits in a way.

A trade like that would probably attract the attention of half the store. And as you attach prices to your cards of what they were worth a few years ago when you played last, surely if you were off then some of the onlookers would say something - no? Its a big trade but you are emboldened by the fact that if you were about to be ripped, surely at least one of the onlookers would be a decent human being and say something.

Now imagine how that guy feels now that he knows how horribly wrong he was. Every person knew he was being bent over...not one of them said anything.

I find this story sickening.

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Originally posted by Mr.C:
You know what, those cards were probably stolen, and you'll never see the dude again.

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