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LandDestroyer
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posted June 30, 2017 06:08 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for LandDestroyer Click Here to Email LandDestroyer Send a private message to LandDestroyer Click to send LandDestroyer an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
Heh, do you think if we type up something so this pops up whenever someone searches on lawyer Ed Holman for his professional career we can get his attention back here? We're getting a little desperate and we didn't do enough last time

http://classic.magictraders.com/ubb/Forum12/HTML/018095.html

Best thing about that 2015 thread is that it was probably the last time 4 mods posted on a single thread

[Edited 2 times, lastly by LandDestroyer on June 30, 2017]

 
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posted July 01, 2017 04:25 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for Vegas10 Click Here to Email Vegas10 Send a private message to Vegas10 Click to send Vegas10 an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
you are just going to spin your wheels, but best of luck.
 
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posted July 01, 2017 10:11 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for LandDestroyer Click Here to Email LandDestroyer Send a private message to LandDestroyer Click to send LandDestroyer an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Vegas10:
you are just going to spin your wheels, but best of luck.

site is so dead basically talking to keep talking at this point

 
Heresy19
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Lol

On another note: Hour of Devastation blows real hard except for the mediocre Crucible of Worlds and MAYBE the black sorcery...Hailstorm or something like that.

I'm glad I'm the LGS's T.O. and will have access to the promo one :P and trade for the 3 others among players.

 
daner
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posted July 04, 2017 12:35 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for daner Click Here to Email daner Send a private message to daner Click to send daner an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Heresy19:
Lol

On another note: Hour of Devastation blows real hard except for the mediocre Crucible of Worlds and MAYBE the black sorcery...Hailstorm or something like that.

I'm glad I'm the LGS's T.O. and will have access to the promo one :P and trade for the 3 others among players.


The set does blow real hard...the only card thats any good is the 5 mana red wrath that hits everything.

WOTC doesnt print good cards anymore.


[Edited 1 times, lastly by daner on July 04, 2017]

 
aethertech
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There are a few EDH cards, a few cards for cube, and a few "meh" and "maybe's" for standard and modern.

Pretty lackluster set.

The biggest things to me, are the The Gods, both new Nicol Bolas, Endless Sands for Hazezon and Ulamog, Scavenger Grounds for Ulamog, and the green spell that grabs TWO lands. Many copies of that.

 
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posted July 05, 2017 10:40 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for AEther Storm Click Here to Email AEther Storm Send a private message to AEther Storm Click to send AEther Storm an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by daner:

WOTC doesnt print good cards anymore.

it has Fraying Sanity. This set rules.
(I'm not kidding)

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aethertech
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Just got done going 2-0 in a Cube Draft, CUSTOM STAR WARS cube.


5 Color, HOT GARBAGIO Deck.

No instants.

No sorceries.

No enchantments.

No planeswalkers.

5 mana-rocks (half-signets)

6 fetches

2 etb tapped dual lands with etb mana of a third color.

2 of each basic.

22 creatures of sweet attrition control deliciousness.

 
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posted July 12, 2017 12:33 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for chaos021 Send a private message to chaos021 Click to send chaos021 an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote View chaos021's Have/Want ListView chaos021's Have/Want List
quote:
Originally posted by daner:
The set does blow real hard...the only card thats any good is the 5 mana red wrath that hits everything.

WOTC doesnt print good cards anymore.


While I agree that Hour of Devastation sucks, saying they don't print good cards is laughable.

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posted July 12, 2017 08:46 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for mm1983 Click Here to Email mm1983 Send a private message to mm1983 Click to send mm1983 an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote View mm1983's Have/Want ListView mm1983's Have/Want List
I believe they print masterpiece cards to cover up the fact that the main set sucks but that's how wizards sells their product. Will be interested to see if Ixalan sells like the other sets without masterpieces.

[Edited 1 times, lastly by mm1983 on July 12, 2017]
 
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posted July 16, 2017 09:43 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for daner Click Here to Email daner Send a private message to daner Click to send daner an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by chaos021:
While I agree that Hour of Devastation sucks, saying they don't print good cards is laughable.



You have no sense of tongue and cheek do you?

....but truth these last few sets have been horrid. A small handful(2-3) of cards that are playable and really nothing else. Usually a PW that can be built around, but after the reaction to destroy the gatewatch due negativity from the community, I dont know where the good cards will come from now.

...and after seeing about half of Ixilan I wasn't impressed by 7 cmc 3 color dinosaurs...well, I was, but not for contructed playability. Looked like Kamigawa 2.0 lot of flavor lack of power.

 
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posted July 16, 2017 09:45 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for daner Click Here to Email daner Send a private message to daner Click to send daner an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by mm1983:
I believe they print masterpiece cards to cover up the fact that the main set sucks but that's how wizards sells their product. Will be interested to see if Ixalan sells like the other sets without masterpieces.

Did you check out the spoiler? I saw some of the set....hard to judge but they BETTER make good cards in the other half of the set bc what I saw, while looking fun, didnt look good(playability wise) for constructed.

 
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Sets have been kinda going downhill (for me) lately. It started with return to ravnica, and since then its' been a never ending stream of sets were only one or two cards at most really stand out for me (as an EDH player.) With some sets having zero cards that I want - and I've got EDH decks covering the length of the spectrum of casual to competitive,in all the colors and combinations.

HOU is the first set I'm kinda excited for in a long time (because of the green Hour card; and the 3 Insect Gods for my Grixis Deck.)

 
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posted July 16, 2017 09:35 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for daner Click Here to Email daner Send a private message to daner Click to send daner an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by aethertech:
Sets have been kinda going downhill (for me) lately. It started with return to ravnica, and since then its' been a never ending stream of sets were only one or two cards at most really stand out for me (as an EDH player.) With some sets having zero cards that I want - and I've got EDH decks covering the length of the spectrum of casual to competitive,in all the colors and combinations.

HOU is the first set I'm kinda excited for in a long time (because of the green Hour card; and the 3 Insect Gods for my Grixis Deck.)


You might actually like Ixalan then. I'm pretty sure you can still view some of the spoiler on reddit. Lot's of multi-colored cards.

http://mythicspoiler.com/ixa/

if you click on the cards they come up a little better w description.

 
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Holy heck!

THESE CARDS ARE ABSOLUTE GAS.

SUNBIRD INVOCATION IS ABSOLUTELY NUTTTTTEEERRRRSSS.

http://imgur.com/a/eUEIh

 
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quote:
Originally posted by aethertech:
Holy heck!

THESE CARDS ARE ABSOLUTE GAS.

SUNBIRD INVOCATION IS ABSOLUTELY NUTTTTTEEERRRRSSS.

http://imgur.com/a/eUEIh


It's alright. It's like a weirdly limited cascade. I'm sure it's decent if you build around it, but I think it's kind of strange.

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daner
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posted July 17, 2017 03:13 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for daner Click Here to Email daner Send a private message to daner Click to send daner an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by chaos021:
It's alright. It's like a weirdly limited cascade. I'm sure it's decent if you build around it, but I think it's kind of strange.


Seems really good if your commander is Maelstrom Wanderer.

 
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posted July 18, 2017 02:40 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for LandDestroyer Click Here to Email LandDestroyer Send a private message to LandDestroyer Click to send LandDestroyer an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
So legacy prices are going nuts again for some reason

https://www.reddit.com/r/mtgfinance/comments/6o2qd3/sell_price_of_revised_ underground_sea_bumped_to/

underground sea is up to $500...ok....butbadlands 2 years ago buy list was $35. now $80?!?!

are they planning on supporting legacy again? Was this all part of their master plan? cut support for legacy, buy up duals cheap, increase support for legacy, sell duals for more?

Badlands $80 (up from $35 a while back, $50 later, now this)
Bayou $130 (up from $80)
Plateau $40 (up from $35 a while back)
Savannah $60 (up from $50)
Scrubland $60 (up from $50)
Taiga $50
Tropical Island $175 (up from $130 not too long ago)
Tundra $150 (Up from $130 not too long ago)
Volcanic Island (Up from $175 not that long ago)

Then other cards are up from that set:

Wheel of fortune is $35
Sol Ring is $5
Mana Vault is $12.50
Copy artifact is $10
etc

I have 4 complete sets of revised (not just duals, complete sets) I had told a buddy I'd sell for $4,800 a few months back b/c i'm not sure i'm going to continue playing. I'm not sure that price isn't below buy list now...I need to do the math and check conditions of my cards

[Edited 2 times, lastly by LandDestroyer on July 18, 2017]

 
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This might be due to the "old school" format. Take a look at unlimited Jaymdae Tome compared to revised.
 
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Old cards only get older so they will continue to rise just due to age. I would say Mana Vault has doubled in price recently because of the Mana Vault Invention being what it is and most people just want the cheapest copy of a card to play with which makes for increased demand as well.
 
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quote:
Originally posted by LandDestroyer:
So legacy prices are going nuts again for some reason


Might be because of Legacy in the pro tour.

http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/organized-play/2018s-pro-tours-and-2017s-worlds-2017-07-19

The format for Pro Tour 25th Anniversary is Trios Constructed, meaning each player on a registered trio will compete with a legal Standard, Modern, and Legacy deck for this event.

 
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posted July 20, 2017 10:42 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for LandDestroyer Click Here to Email LandDestroyer Send a private message to LandDestroyer Click to send LandDestroyer an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Krieg:

Might be because of Legacy in the pro tour.

http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/organized-play/2018s-pro-t ours-and-2017s-worlds-2017-07-19

The format for Pro Tour 25th Anniversary is Trios Constructed, meaning each player on a registered trio will compete with a legal Standard, Modern, and Legacy deck for this event.


ya, people are thinking that now and expectation of insider information about Eternal Masters 2 (and/or possibly iconinc masters and the 25th anniversary masters..god so many sets released these days)

 
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quote:
Originally posted by AEther Storm:
it has Fraying Sanity. This set rules.
(I'm not kidding)



Agreed!

First place 2 Fridays in a row with my U/G turbo fog sanity

Startled Awake + Flaying Sanity = Insanity in standard!

 
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Any good reason for the latest round of Reserved List spikes, especially concerning rares that aren't that great (like North Star or Lifeblood)?
 
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quote:
Originally posted by superpup:
Any good reason for the latest round of Reserved List spikes, especially concerning rares that aren't that great (like North Star or Lifeblood)?

Because people are jumping on whatever card hasn't already spiked in price.

 

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