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MeddlingMage
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posted January 13, 2010 05:47 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for MeddlingMage Click Here to Email MeddlingMage Send a private message to MeddlingMage Click to send MeddlingMage an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote View MeddlingMage's Have/Want ListView MeddlingMage's Have/Want List
quote:
Originally posted by OGB:
Well if it turns out that WCFmo is Mafia, then can't you also reasonably assume that Monty is a cit?

Not entirely.
He could have been mafia, and is trying to now clear him.
As in maybe they both were mafia.

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quote:
Originally posted by OGB:
Well if it turns out that WCFmo is Mafia, then can't you also reasonably assume that Monty is a cit?

It's hard to say. On one hand, yes, he had his vote for Montague until the bandwagon turned on him. On the other, he voted for PD last round as well at the last second. Knowing that he voted for MW conceals who the THIRD Mafia may be, if you assume that no more than 2 Mafia will ever vote on the same person so as not to seem conspicuous.

 
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Honest question - what's the deal with the peanut? It's neither a pea, nor a nut.
 
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posted January 13, 2010 05:53 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for Montague Click Here to Email Montague Send a private message to Montague Click to send Montague an Instant MessageVisit Montague's Homepage  Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by WCFmo:
I have one question for you?


Can you do my taxes?


If your doing this as strategy, your point has been made. There is no point in litering the thread with anymore of this b.s.

And yes, I can do your taxes.

quote:
Originally posted by OGB:
Well if it turns out that WCFmo is Mafia, then can't you also reasonably assume that Monty is a cit?

I wish I could say yes, but if I were in your shoes I wouldnt clear myself that easily. It could be that both of us are mafia, one of us were going to be nabbed anyways, so we engineered this little blow up. Thats not how it is, but it is always a possibility.

I guess we have to wait and see if WCFmo is even mafia.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by MeddlingMage:
Not entirely.
He could have been mafia, and is trying to now clear him.
As in maybe they both were mafia.

~MM


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Holy ****.

Changing my vote for WCFmo.

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quote:
Originally posted by Bugger:
Holy ****.

Changing my vote for WCFmo.


Best. Analysis. Ever.

 
Montague
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quote:
Originally posted by Montague:
Im kinda thinking the same thing Zak. WCFmo pretty much had his back against the wall, now with his behavior mafia has a valid excuse to jump onto the bandwagon. This is good to either hide the people who are jumping on or even the people who were already on.

quote:
Originally posted by Bugger:
Holy ****.

Changing my vote for WCFmo.


coincidence?

 
Zakman86
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quote:
Originally posted by Montague:
coincidence?


I think not. I'll go out on a limb and say that I have High suspicion on Bugger for next round.

 
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Right, because I'm stupid enough to do exactly what someone else predicted the mafia would do.
Whatever. If WCFmo turns up scummy it won't lose us a round to lynch me and I'm too dangerous to leave alive to the endgame anyway. I'd say the same about AGM, but given the crowd his number's probably up soon anyway.

That being said, the sheer level of vindictiveness in Monty's posts this round make me suspect him less. He's got a very thin skin as a cit. If he were a wolf I think he'd have better self-control.

 
Zakman86
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quote:
Originally posted by Bugger:
Right, because I'm stupid enough to do exactly what someone else predicted the mafia would do.
Whatever. If WCFmo turns up scummy it won't lose us a round to lynch me and I'm too dangerous to leave alive to the endgame anyway. I'd say the same about AGM, but given the crowd his number's probably up soon anyway.

It may be complete coincidence, you're right. I also agree that there's about 3 of us who won't be around by Round 5.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by Bugger:
Right, because I'm stupid enough to do exactly what someone else predicted the mafia would do.
Whatever. If WCFmo turns up scummy it won't lose us a round to lynch me and I'm too dangerous to leave alive to the endgame anyway. I'd say the same about AGM, but given the crowd his number's probably up soon anyway.

That being said, the sheer level of vindictiveness in Monty's posts this round make me suspect him less. He's got a very thin skin as a cit. If he were a wolf I think he'd have better self-control.


Woah, Woah, Woah. I was joking. Kinda.

So now that WCFmo blew up you decided to bring out this little piece of knowledge? You were all ready to vote me off, knowing good and well that I wasnt playing my mafia game, even though you kept on pushing that I was playing my mafia game?

Wow. Just wow.

For the record, that is a 100 percent correct analysis of me. Whenever I am mafia I am more calm, as opposed to when I'm a cit I am not. When I am a citizen I will have more grammar errors, I will be more hot headed, etc.....

My question is if you knew this, why still vote for me?

 
Zakman86
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quote:
Originally posted by Montague:
Woah, Woah, Woah. I was joking. Kinda.

So now that WCFmo blew up you decided to bring out this little piece of knowledge? You were all ready to vote me off, knowing good and well that I wasnt playing my mafia game, even though you kept on pushing that I was playing my mafia game?

Wow. Just wow.

For the record, that is a 100 percent correct analysis of me. Whenever I am mafia I am more calm, as opposed to when I'm a cit I am not. When I am a citizen I will have more grammar errors, I will be more hot headed, etc.....

My question is if you knew this, why still vote for me?


It's possible that he just got home and noticed the firestorm going on. When he originally put his vote in for you, you hadn't said... well, anything. Now that you've actually posted quite a bit more, it would make sense for him to change his vote.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by Montague:
Woah, Woah, Woah. I was joking. Kinda.

So now that WCFmo blew up you decided to bring out this little piece of knowledge? You were all ready to vote me off, knowing good and well that I wasnt playing my mafia game, even though you kept on pushing that I was playing my mafia game?

Wow. Just wow.

For the record, that is a 100 percent correct analysis of me. Whenever I am mafia I am more calm, as opposed to when I'm a cit I am not. When I am a citizen I will have more grammar errors, I will be more hot headed, etc.....

My question is if you knew this, why still vote for me?


A few reasons: for one, the posts that tipped the scales that you made (that convinced me your irritability is genuine) came after my last post. I've been completely away from the computer since then. When last I sent my vote in, I still erred more on the side of you acting the emotion. Which brings me to the second point: I wasn't brownnosing when I said you're no slouch. I can easily see you bluffing your play as scum.
To be perfectly frank, I still don't consider you completely clear. But you have moved down the ladder on my suspect list.
EDIT: Zakman got in ahead of me. As previously stated on the thread, i was at a college meeting.
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[Edited 1 times, lastly by Bugger on January 13, 2010]

 
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I want to die like my father, peacefully in his sleep, not screaming and terrified, like his passengers.

Suspect - masterwolf

 
AlmasterGM
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Zak is my new favorite player. There is absolutely some busing going on with WCFmo if he flips mafia. Next round will be a gold mine of data.

If I am NK'd (which I probably won't be, but I'd rather plan for it than kick myself later), my advice is the following:

1) If WCFmo flips scum, look at people who quickly abandoned their previous suspects to nuke him. This is called bussing - they are probably mafia.
2) Fwy and XplicitR are my top suspects.
3) Let Bugger live until the second to last round. Do not let him talk you into living any longer.

Edit:

quote:
Originally posted by Bugger:
Right, because I'm stupid enough to do exactly what someone else predicted the mafia would do.

Bad Bugger. WIFOM defenses are a no-no.

[Edited 2 times, lastly by AlmasterGM on January 13, 2010]

 
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That's quite enough WCF. QUITE. ENOUGH. You want to be lynched, you're probably getting your wish, that's NO CALL for you to spam this thread with useless crap.

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[head explodes]

Lemme gather my brain matter and attempt to make a reasonable post. WTF just happened?

This still only clears 1 player - Masterwolf. This is a full game, the mafia 3 are free to agree/disagree/ attack/defend each other almost as much as the innocents because it helps throw us off their trail. We've (probably) hit one over the head here, but this doesn't actually change too much.

Montague has dropped off my personal radar, which says a lot for his actions this round. However, this leaves me in a pickle. I can either leave my vote for Monty, knowing he'll live, change to the WFCmo wagon and be a 'late wagoner', or vote for one of my other suspects and not accomplish much. And none of these make me look good, it being this late in the round. Uhg.

 
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Montagues question to Bugger:

...

quote:
Originally posted by Montague:
My question is if you knew this, why still vote for me?


quote:
Originally posted by Zakman86:
It's possible that he just got home and noticed the firestorm going on. When he originally put his vote in for you, you hadn't said... well, anything. Now that you've actually posted quite a bit more, it would make sense for him to change his vote.


I believe he was asking Bugger....no?

quote:
Originally posted by Bugger:
EDIT: Zakman got in ahead of me. As previously stated on the thread, i was at a college meeting.

This is why players should never answer for other players....EVER

Whether you are friends outside the game or on the board let people answer for themselves that way we all can get our own information to see if they are scum or not...if you want to reply to the question wait for the person been questioned to reply then state your reply thus we can see where you both stand...

 
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quote:
Originally posted by AlmasterGM:
Zak is my new favorite player. There is absolutely some busing going on with WCFmo if he flips mafia. Next round will be a gold mine of data.

If I am NK'd (which I probably won't be, but I'd rather plan for it than kick myself later), my advice is the following:

1) If WCFmo flips scum, look at people who quickly abandoned their previous suspects to nuke him. This is called bussing - they are probably mafia.
2) Fwy and XplicitR are my top suspects.
3) Let Bugger live until the second to last round. Do not let him talk you into living any longer.

Edit:

Bad Bugger. WIFOM defenses are a no-no.


You suspecting someone is almost like the seer clearing them. Go ahead and voice your opinion but this time explain why you think we are your top suspects.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by Bugger:
Thanks for the post, Masterwolf.

I think AGM makes a pertinent observation about the timeliness of MM's posts- they always seem to show up at the end of the round. IIRC, when he and I were mafia in Mafia III (I think it was?), he did much the same. I have had my thoughts about MM, but I thought it was just me.
I'm going to take a hard look at his posting and voting history, but it will have to wait until tomorrow. I have a college meeting tonight so this may be the last post I make before the lynch.

Sending in my vote for Montague now.


This was his post from earlier today, but yeah I see what you mean fwy.

Edit: Mistake in bolding.

[Edited 1 times, lastly by Montague on January 13, 2010]

 
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If WCFmo is mafia, then I would look for at least 1 mafia among:

Bernek77
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Peace out ya'll. Talk to you next round maybe?

P.S. This game has gotten kinda crazy.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by MasterWolf:
If WCFmo is mafia, then I would look for at least 1 mafia among:

Bernek77
OGB

Peace out ya'll. Talk to you next round maybe?

P.S. This game has gotten kinda crazy.


Can you please elaborate why I can possibly be mafia?

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quote:
Originally posted by Bernek77:
Can you please elaborate why I can possibly be mafia?

One of the first two to switch off WCF. If he's mafia, then I think you and OGB are suspect to be mafia. Only one of you though.

Here's my logic, and of course it depends on WCF being mafia.

Either OGB or Bernek are mafia, eager to switch votes and show how innocent they are.

Third mafia would be among the following group:
AlmasterGM
Bugger
MeddlingMage
Thanos

I think only those four would have stones to switch WCF into suicide mode. Again this depends on the WCF role, and I could of course be completely wrong. thror and Zak have shown a skill level not to be expected from a new-ish player.

P.S. Zak could be lying about this being the only game he ever played. No guarantee he's telling the truth.

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OK I can understand that, but I have expressed my suspicion early in this game for him and the town thought was to go after a silent this round. That was the thought, but after his act and the post that put me over, I believe I was almost forced to change my vote. Had I not i would of been suspicious for sticking with Montague. So either way I am gonna be under thought. How do I win with Wcfmo going awol?

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