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Originally posted by Tim05:
I could likely contribute a one-time donation, or a recurring monthly donation if necessary. Let me know.

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Originally posted by paragondave:
Me too. There are many pros and some cons as well to adding a fee based membership that I am sure will be discussed at length eventually.

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MOTL has been amazing to me over the years, and I'd love to see a new version of it introduced. With that being said, while I am quite capable of coding, I lack the time to do so. However, I'm more than willing to help wherever I can; in this case, I'd be better off helping financially.

Whenever this gets going, feel free to call upon me to help! A new version of MOTL would probably drive my interest back into the game (that and a better standard format, though right now, it's not too bad). Regardless of it being a one-time donation, or an ongoing thing.

I've been around here for several years - more than I'd like to admit - and as I said, MOTL has been great to me. Successful trades, meeting great people, etc.

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Originally posted by Shadows:
Whoa! I haven't been around these parts in quite awhile. I'm extremely sad it has gotten to this point, but everyone here has some pretty solid ideas in regards to the direction of a new website.

MOTL has been amazing to me over the years, and I'd love to see a new version of it introduced. With that being said, while I am quite capable of coding, I lack the time to do so. However, I'm more than willing to help wherever I can; in this case, I'd be better off helping financially.

Whenever this gets going, feel free to call upon me to help! A new version of MOTL would probably drive my interest back into the game (that and a better standard format, though right now, it's not too bad). Regardless of it being a one-time donation, or an ongoing thing.

I've been around here for several years - more than I'd like to admit - and as I said, MOTL has been great to me. Successful trades, meeting great people, etc.

Take care everyone :-).

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I just keep hearing more and more people echoing some version of this sentiment, and it only serves to prove that this is something that needs to happen. I feel the same way, I've had some fantastic trades here over the years, enjoyed some of the best conversation to be had anywhere, and met some absolutely stellar folks. Every voice that joins in just reinforces the simple fact that this is the right move.

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Originally posted by Tha Gunslinga:
I would also suggest some way to verify addresses, and then having "verified" members.

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Some form of verification would be needed. But, some of us use different addresses (one in the US, another in Europe) so please bear that in mind.

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Originally posted by Filip Cec:
First of all I'm really glad that we will finally have a fully functioning "new and better" old MOTL.

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Some form of verification would be needed. But, some of us use different addresses (one in the US, another in Europe) so please bear that in mind.

Btw... would it be possible to change the nickname and keep the refs?

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Originally posted by Jazaray:
I do understand that everyone is disappointed/angry/whatever with Leshrac. Believe me, I totally understand it. He's let this site down, this community down. However, I do disagree that discussing building a new site, to pretty much replace the one he owns, on his own site isn't in some way disrespectful to him. As much as when Puca came to MOTL, posting and emailing our members to join their new site.

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But Jazaray ... imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.

In regards to migrating refs ... dare I say that only the refs from the past 3 to 5 years be migrated? How many responses would a person actually get if they submitted a ref verification? I know personally most of 255ish refs would be gone because I haven't traded that actively in the past 4 or 5 years but lets face it ... those people who have moved on aren't going to respond to a ref verification request.

I think that all trades should be locked into the system. I know this feature is used on other sites but both parties should have to enter the details and maybe even have the trade system automatically search a bad trader / ripper database and warn the other parties.

I for one would be willing to contribute code to the project for nothing more then to add it to my resume and maybe a reference or two from the other programmers / admins.

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Originally posted by Tha Gunslinga:
I would also suggest some way to verify addresses, and then having "verified" members.

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QFT. I have always wondered how this could be accomplished but having a system of verified members could add validity to third party trading, escrow services, etc.

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Originally posted by revenger:
I, for one, am not going to a new site without my hard work was and hard earned refs. That would hella suck to start anew.

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If it is not possible, it would affect everyone else too. Nobody wants to lose their refs. As has been said, repeatedly, every effort will be made.

That being said, I'd be willing to help fund MOTL 2.0

Whoever is in charge of this thread (Gawain?) contact me when that time comes.

Jesse

Only thing. - Try to keep it simple. I think that is what is the beauty of this forum. Every time I look at other trading websites (mtgsalvation) *cough I throw up in my mouth a little.

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Originally posted by Trag3dy:
I would be on board as well - membership fee/the stack whatever. I'm game. Would also want all my refs and what not. Took a while to gets those

Only thing. - Try to keep it simple. I think that is what is the beauty of this forum. Every time I look at other trading websites (mtgsalvation) *cough I throw up in my mouth a little.

Trag3dy

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For me, I also love the simplicity. I was gone for over a decade and it was great to just come back to something that felt familiar. I have visited those other sites, but have yet to really want to get into them.

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Originally posted by stu55:
For those asking, I am 100% sure that ref transfer would have to be one of the easiest parts of making a new site

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Question based on an assumption is the legality of transferring the refs. This is a private site where the data is the property of the owner(s). The data collected by this site i.e. refs isn't exactly free domain so transferring it to another site might violate the terms of agreement unless permission is obtained first.

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Originally posted by sys41o:
Question based on an assumption is the legality of transferring the refs. This is a private site where the data is the property of the owner(s). The data collected by this site i.e. refs isn't exactly free domain so transferring it to another site might violate the terms of agreement unless permission is obtained first.

Not that I don't want my refs to transfer but just covering bases.

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Originally posted by sys41o:
Question based on an assumption is the legality of transferring the refs. This is a private site where the data is the property of the owner(s). The data collected by this site i.e. refs isn't exactly free domain so transferring it to another site might violate the terms of agreement unless permission is obtained first.

Not that I don't want my refs to transfer but just covering bases.

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In my opinion this is ridiculous. They dont own my references. When I trade on Facebook and use the link for trades could they sue me then?

Edit: If this is a real concern, make the new site dependant upon the user to transfer their own refs. A mass migration of data is not possible due to the fact no one has root access to the box to do such a thing.

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Originally posted by stu55:
For those asking, I am 100% sure that ref transfer would have to be one of the easiest parts of making a new site

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Originally posted by daner:
The better question is....and not that I dont have a problem w anyone, I truly dont, but I know some people for reasons of their own do not like me. If I have to pay money for a site thats fine, but if someone in charge is taking my money who already dislikes me what happens if they disagree w something I say? I really dont feel like paying money when one of the site owners probably cant wait to get the power to ban me. Id feel like the bias is gonna change over to the new site, too....so gl guys. Nice knowing the few of you who actually know me. Not that many care but Im out.

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I don't think that will happen daner, because if it would, other people would feel the same like you. I believe "those people" (not that anybody doesn't know who we're talking about ) respect everybody's input and opinions even if they disagree. I for one would be very happy to see you on the new site

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Originally posted by mm1983:
For what MOTL has been reduced to in the last few years it's still a great tool to use for buying, selling, and trading regardless of any negative comments about the site as of lately. Many people have moved to TCG for selling as it has become more popular after TCG opened it up to everybody and not just stores. Also, many people use facebook to sell off their high end items that they would have otherwise sold here a few years ago.

Could MOTL be duplicated at some point? Probably, but under the right management. Where part of the problem lies is anybody that has the knowledge and money to create a new MOTL probably has better things to do with their time as they are now older and have real jobs and as a result can just buy what they need rather than take the extra time to trade for it. For what it is worth I still love buying, trading, and selling here as it would be hard to be a brand new trader with anything else.

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As previously discussed (I think), any type of duplication would run the risk of copyright or trademark issues. The site owner is a lawyer from what I hear. Seems like a problem.

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Originally posted by chaos021:
As previously discussed (I think), any type of duplication would run the risk of copyright or trademark issues. The site owner is a lawyer from what I hear. Seems like a problem.

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