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Topic: The Mirrodin Beseiged spoiler thread
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Zakman86 Member
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posted January 23, 2011 10:38 AM
quote: Originally posted by Myy: has anyone noticed how Thrun, the last Troll is worded?it says Thrun, the last troll can't be countered. then is just says Regenerate Thrun. would there be a special reason why they would just call him Thrun?>
Pretty sure that's normal, they print the full name the first time and then the shorthand after.
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fluffycow Member
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posted January 23, 2011 11:20 AM
I was adviced to keep this thing civil, so I will not be calling you names that you surely would deserve.quote: Originally posted by daner:
First off if it had an activation cost of 2 it would be a limited BOMB. Do you know how good millstone was in draft? This would be like Millstone on crack. Secondly, it's not the worst rare we've seen. In fact this set pretty much has rares that can all be used in some format or another. I don't know why your being such a whiney bitch? Like I said this set is pretty darn good for draft, EDH, and constructed. What the hell else do you want? Each rare seems like it can serve a purpose, there isn't Moonlace or some other form of garbag that will NEVER see play. Seriously, take a look again at the spoiler list....it's not a bad set at all, it's quite good.
First thing first, please learn to read before chastising anyone else. Never did I say that this set would be garbage. I was pointing out that I didn't understand why there are rares that would be playable yet still not be good even if they lowered the cost either the mana cost or activation cost. They do this every set and I was wondering if anyone had a good theory or knowledge of the situation. You clearly had no idea, but I guess you are very good at posting nothing.
quote: Originally posted by daner:
Even at an activation cost of 4 this card can mill out your opponent in 5 turns(in sealed). So a card that he thinks sucks is a 5 turn clock win, and you don't need to attack. Not to mention it's a way to push through those extra poison counters if your infect deck runs out of gas...which happens often. He just doesn't know how to evaluate cards....or he got sand in his diaper. The card is fine.
Secondly, do an actual draft before "stating your opinion." OMG, a LIMITED BOMB! Wizards would never print those!!!! This is an artifact set, with artifact hate...lots of it. Has anyone dropped a baneslayer against you? Masticore? Behemoth sludge? Or even wall of reverence. There are a lot of cards that will win games by themselves, some in sets with very little answers to them. In limited the web is not the worse thing in the world if it has synergy with the rest of your deck, even if the activation cost 2 it still wouldn't be a monster like what I listed above. And I hate it when newbies call things x turn clocks and have no idea what they are talking about. If you have to spend 4 mana a turn for 5 turns activating the thing, you are not doing much else. So yes, if you get 5 activations, you have won, but if you can get away with activating it 5 times, your deck was in pretty good shape anyway or you opponent really sucks (which I think happens alot in your case). quote: Originally posted by daner: Blow me out of the water for what? Calling you out? EVERY post I've seen of yours in this thread is you crying like a baby. BOO HOO some of the rares are bad....well golly jee, I'm sorry Wizards doesn't just make every rare as good as Tarmogoyf for you to play with.Oh no! They keep making worse and worse sets, right? You sound like your lost...let me help you find your way home. http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/ ^^ Go there, I'm sure someone will lend you a shoulder to cry on.
These salvation links are getting old, every time there's a disagreement somebody has to do it. The set overall has gotten much better since the days of Mercadian, if you want me to start telling you how great I think Tez 2.0 is and how I just pre-ordered green sun's zenith, you can send a request to my personal email, fc@kismiculo.vas2Hel
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skizzikmonger Member
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posted January 23, 2011 12:56 PM
Burn the Impure 1R Instant Burn the Impure deals 3 damage to target creature. If that creature has infect, Burn the Impure deals 3 damage to that creature's controller.
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choco man Member
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posted January 23, 2011 01:44 PM
Contested Warzone seems like fun new card for group-hug EDH.
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WeedIan Member
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posted January 23, 2011 01:59 PM
quote: Originally posted by skizzikmonger: Burn the Impure 1R Instant Burn the Impure deals 3 damage to target creature. If that creature has infect, Burn the Impure deals 3 damage to that creature's controller.
That's a neat limited/sideboard card __________________ Member Since 03/28/2001 10000+ posts 3rd in posts in Ontario 15th in posts on MOTL Top 5 in Refs in Ontario (by people who location posted)
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evilempire22 Member
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posted January 23, 2011 05:54 PM
Why are there basic lands being printed in a mid-block set?--Evil __________________ I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds. Living is easy with eyes closed, misunderstanding all you see.
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-PoX- Member
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posted January 23, 2011 06:02 PM
quote: Originally posted by fluffycow: I was pointing out that I didn't understand why there are rares that would be playable yet still not be good even if they lowered the cost either the mana cost or activation cost.
It's not possible to make every card different and yet just as good as every other. As soon as you make one card stronger to "fix" it, you've essentially made X other cards weaker.
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thror Member
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posted January 23, 2011 09:29 PM
quote: Originally posted by evilempire22: Why are there basic lands being printed in a mid-block set?--Evil
Because all 20 of the first lands were Mirran. I assume these next 10 will show phyrexian influence on the land. __________________ "He fights you not because you have wronged him, but because you are there."[16:17] <@BrassMan> what do you need new tech for? [16:18] <@BrassMan> gush is unrestricted [19:01] <nderEvo> you can delete yourself
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JoshSherman Member
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posted January 23, 2011 11:11 PM
quote: Originally posted by evilempire22: Why are there basic lands being printed in a mid-block set?--Evil
Why not? It's pretty boring to get the same lands for three sets, so maybe they're going to have new lands for each set now. I'm definitely not against it. Maybe that's where all the MPR money is going, lol. __________________ *MafiaBass*Joshweek*Letter Bombs!*Logout Q: How many mathematicians does it take to change a light bulb? A:0.9¯
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darius vitrosoo Member
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posted January 24, 2011 07:22 AM
i think this set is actually kinda balance near overpowered. some of the cards are cutesy but they seem to have a power all there own. I personally thin thrul will not be that goo in draft nor in standard but give him time. The zeniths are all powerful in any enviroment. i have seen atleast 20 bombs in this set already. I disagree on the "crap" rares references i think every card is good in some way, even if its just good at ****ing me off. __________________ welcome to the wonderful world of card-board crack, please sit down and prepare to get mana-screwed.things i am working on with friends http://www.squidoo.com/lensmasters/Luminosity http://www.amazon.com/gp/shops/storefront/index.html?%20%20ie=UTF8&marketplaceID=ATVPDKIKX0DER&sellerID=A9VS1Y
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fluffycow Member
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posted January 24, 2011 08:37 AM
quote: Originally posted by -PoX-: It's not possible to make every card different and yet just as good as every other. As soon as you make one card stronger to "fix" it, you've essentially made X other cards weaker.
Ok, what ticked me off was when I misread the card distant memories. I thought I got to choose if I wanted to concentrate or diabolic tutor, and I thought to myself, wow that's really good, but the wording is a little funny. Then I read it again and it turned out that your opponent actually got to choose. So now the card is worse than both and worse than most commons. Would it have been that insane if the card gave you the option to choose rather than your opponent? I don't think it would really effect legacy, but it would be quite good in standard yet still not be ridiculous like other cards. quote: Originally posted by darius vitrosoo: I disagree on the "crap" rares references i think every card is good in some way, even if its just good at ****ing me off.
No argument there.
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shaselai Member
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posted January 24, 2011 08:48 AM
Since magic has become such a money game and only few top netdecks/archetypes available pretty much any rares not being used is "crap rare". in limited those rares could be great (like dragons, demons etc.) but i hear "crap rare" all the time here cause the people here all think competitive
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WeedIan Member
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posted January 24, 2011 09:37 AM
quote: Originally posted by shaselai: Since magic has become such a money game and only few top netdecks/archetypes available pretty much any rares not being used is "crap rare". in limited those rares could be great (like dragons, demons etc.) but i hear "crap rare" all the time here cause the people here all think competitive
A crap rare can go up quickly as well. See Prismatic Omen. __________________ Member Since 03/28/2001 10000+ posts 3rd in posts in Ontario 15th in posts on MOTL Top 5 in Refs in Ontario (by people who location posted)
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-PoX- Member
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posted January 24, 2011 09:44 AM
quote: Originally posted by fluffycow: Would it have been that insane if the card gave you the option to choose rather than your opponent?
You only want to play 60 cards in your deck, so if you make that one good enough for constructed, you've most likely bumped down some other card that won't be in your deck.
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JesusChristMD Member
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posted January 24, 2011 01:18 PM
quote: Originally posted by WeedIan: A crap rare can go up quickly as well. See Prismatic Omen.
Check Knight Exemplar as well. __________________ Quoth the Raven, "Nevermore"
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Bugger Member
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posted January 24, 2011 03:01 PM
on the topic of crap rares__________________ (Humans) are stubborn, self-destructive conformists. Any other view of our species is just self-congratulatory delusion. Next Question." -- Michael Crichton, The Lost Worldstu55 noooooooooooooooooooooooo
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darius vitrosoo Member
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posted January 24, 2011 03:13 PM
very imformative actually thankyou for that post it was very sightfull__________________ welcome to the wonderful world of card-board crack, please sit down and prepare to get mana-screwed.things i am working on with friends http://www.squidoo.com/lensmasters/Luminosity http://www.amazon.com/gp/shops/storefront/index.html?%20%20ie=UTF8&marketplaceID=ATVPDKIKX0DER&sellerID=A9VS1Y
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AlmostGrown Member
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posted January 24, 2011 03:24 PM
quote: Originally posted by Bugger: on the topic of crap rares
lol Lion's Eye Diamond is a terrible rare __________________ send ref checks, paypal payment or any questions to the email in my profile! Serra Angel Count: 224 Nightmare Count: 95
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Scopes13mtg Member
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posted January 24, 2011 05:15 PM
quote: Originally posted by AlmostGrown: lol Lion's Eye Diamond is a terrible rare
Yeah... I recently decided to invest in a playset, so that article infuriated me.
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thror Member
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posted January 24, 2011 05:43 PM
quote: Originally posted by GenghisTom: Cryptoplasm {1}{U}{U} Creature – Shapeshifter (Rare) At the beginning of your upkeep, you may have Cryptoplasm become a copy of another target creature. If you do, Cryptoplasm gains this ability. 3/3
Update : Spoiled Incorrectly. Is only a 2/2. __________________ "He fights you not because you have wronged him, but because you are there."[16:17] <@BrassMan> what do you need new tech for? [16:18] <@BrassMan> gush is unrestricted [19:01] <nderEvo> you can delete yourself
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skizzikmonger Member
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posted January 24, 2011 09:55 PM
Massacre Wurm 3BBB Creature-Wurm When Massacre Wurm enters the battlefield, creatures your opponents control get -2/-2 until end of turn. Whenever a creature an opponent controls is put into a graveyard from the battlefield, that player loses 2 life. 6/5
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Skwirlnutz Member
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posted January 25, 2011 02:06 AM
quote: Originally posted by skizzikmonger: Massacre Wurm 3BBB Creature-Wurm When Massacre Wurm enters the battlefield, creatures your opponents control get -2/-2 until end of turn. Whenever a creature an opponent controls is put into a graveyard from the battlefield, that player loses 2 life. 6/5
This guy seems fun!
__________________ ~Skwirl ಠ_ಠ
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darius vitrosoo Member
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posted January 25, 2011 07:02 AM
nice on one the wurm it comes into play and wins without attacking__________________ welcome to the wonderful world of card-board crack, please sit down and prepare to get mana-screwed.things i am working on with friends http://www.squidoo.com/lensmasters/Luminosity http://www.amazon.com/gp/shops/storefront/index.html?%20%20ie=UTF8&marketplaceID=ATVPDKIKX0DER&sellerID=A9VS1Y
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fluffycow Member
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posted January 25, 2011 08:56 AM
quote: Originally posted by Bugger: on the topic of crap rares
Very informative, thanks for the link
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GenghisTom Member
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posted January 25, 2011 12:33 PM
this set is completely busted for limited
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