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Originally posted by Zakman86:
12-Post Eldrazi.dec

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Do you have a link to a deck list?

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Originally posted by Thanos:
I'm out of the loop, what's using Candelabra of Tawnos and why is it $100+ now?

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Spring Tide (Top 2 at the SCG, playing in the finals)

100 and 115 just sold on ebay, i am guessing 120+

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Originally posted by Sovarius:
Is Court Homunculus not awesome with Memnites and Ornithopters in Tempered Steel??
I'm still working on a post-Lorwyn Extended W/u Tempered Steel, very slowly.

Can anyone think of and give me examples of standard god hands that allow for turn 4 (or god forbid, turn 3) wins? Just out of curiosity, mostly, but i'm considering messing with a deck like that and trying it at a tourny.

T1: Swamp, Vampire Lacerator
T2: Attack for 2. Swamp, Vampire Lacerator, Pulse Tracker, Demon of Death's Gate with alternate cost.
T3: Mountain, Assault Strobe, Demon swings for 18.

Or on turn 4 without strobe.

T1: Forest.
T2: Forest, Blight Mamba
T3: Forest, Giant Growth, Groundswell, Primal Bellow. Swing for 11 Poison.

Can also use r/g lands and assault strobe/groundswell. Black with Vampire's Bite, too.

edit: Oh, and i got to thinking about this after being inspired by Nderdog's comment about his 4th win, so here's another.

T1: Mountain, Memnite, Memnite, Mox Opal, Kuldotha Rebirth (pop opal), Goblin Guide. Swing for 2.
T2: Swing for 7. Mountain, Kuldotha Rebirth (pop a Memnite).
T3: Goblin Bushwhacker kicked, swing for 13.

Or Contested Warzone in lieu of Bushwhacker.

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Originally posted by Thanos:
Do you have a link to a deck list?

I can't seem to find it anywhere (yes, I googled it too,lol)

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Originally posted by Valor007:
If you really want a broken god hand for T2 then you want this:
Mountain, Mox Opal, Mox Opal, Memnite, Memnite, Kuldotha Rebirth, Bushwhacker, with Bushwhacker on Top of Library.
First turn 12 Damage second turn 14 damage.
Turn 2 Kill

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Ooooh, why did i not see that =[
It's a good'n.

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Originally posted by Volcanon:
Is mono-white viable in current t2? Something like knights + bladehold + sun titan or something? The best part is that they are all cheap cards.

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Originally posted by caquaa:
Whats the most broken (fully powered) dark ritual based combo deck in vintage?

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ended up playing some random TPS list. Was rather funny because I was rolling along as expected since my deck out powered everything.... the store owner being a fan of old cards since he had been playing forever asked if his buddies could watch my next game. I got paired against some younger kid who I kinda felt bad for, however my deck did poorly, and I made a play error along the way as well. He had a pair of soul wardens in play, I necro'd down to ~9 and found nothing but mana and preordains. Seemed fine, except the preordains didn't find anything except a tinker, but I threw it to the bottom because I had lethal storm that turn. I was forced to necro more and went to 4, then 2 on his attack... literally won on the back of a coin flip on mana crypt going in my favor.

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Originally posted by Skwirlnutz:
Anybody got a list of a good Kuldotha Red?

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4 Goblin Guide
4 Goblin Bushwhacker
4 Memnite
4 Ornithopter
4 Signal Pest

3 Forked Bolt
1 Lightning Bolt
4 Galvanic Blast
4 Kuldotha Rebirth
2 Devastating Summons
3 Chimeric Mass
3 Mox Opal

4 Contested War Zone
16 Mountain

IIRC, the diffreence between this build and the one from about a month ago that top 4'd is Blast instead of Goblin Wardriver. I did not make this change in my build (I have a friend who did), but I've never found Wardriver to be useful personally. I either don't need him or he can't help me. In that respect, extra burn would give you a bit more reach.

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4 Jinxed Idol
2 Devastating Summons
3 Tuk Tuk the Explorer
4 Arc Trail
1 Lightning Bolt
1 Phyrexian Revoker

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Originally posted by joz:
should be more like $60-70

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Originally posted by rats60:
Book Jace is easily 100+.

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Originally posted by JoshSherman:
4 Goblin Guide
4 Goblin Bushwhacker
4 Memnite
4 Ornithopter
4 Signal Pest

3 Forked Bolt
1 Lightning Bolt
4 Galvanic Blast
4 Kuldotha Rebirth
2 Devastating Summons
3 Chimeric Mass
3 Mox Opal

4 Contested War Zone
16 Mountain

IIRC, the diffreence between this build and the one from about a month ago that top 4'd is Blast instead of Goblin Wardriver. I did not make this change in my build (I have a friend who did), but I've never found Wardriver to be useful personally. I either don't need him or he can't help me. In that respect, extra burn would give you a bit more reach.

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4 Jinxed Idol
2 Devastating Summons
3 Tuk Tuk the Explorer
4 Arc Trail
1 Lightning Bolt
1 Phyrexian Revoker

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Thanks Josh. Just one question, what is Chimeric Mass for? Is it for late game or?

*EDIT*: Also, no Teetering Peaks?

1st of all the great thing about EDH is you only need x1 of a card.. so if its rare or expensive or both.. at least you only need 1 copy

2nd thing what is the reason or flavor behind making people play x4 of a card.. not that u HAVE to but for consistance reasons you want to.
if the rule was only x1 of any given card it would make it more diverse and games wouldnt feel so boring or repetative

whats the flavor of being able to have x4 mythic legends in 1 deck? or x4 in yours and x4 in your opponents.. that dont seem like a very exotic mythic or legend to me. mid as well print him as a common.. yet there can only ever be x4 grizzly bears in my deck.. there is no way a deck full of forests can support more then x4 grizzly bears. thats odd

having to get "playsets" of cards just seems redundant
it would make buying packs and boxes actualy worth it since u only need to pull 1 of each card
and with box's u generaly dont pull duplicates specialy of mythics etc
and if u do happen to pull x2 of a nice rare or mythic
you could easily use them as good trade bait insted of having to cling on to them for dear life trying to make your playset

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Originally posted by helpmehelpyou:
2nd thing what is the reason or flavor behind making people play x4 of a card.. not that u HAVE to but for consistance reasons you want to.

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well initially there was no limit on number of copies, so decks owuld just be lotus x a bunch, lightning bolt x a bunch, time twister x a bunch assuming it would be possible to track down those cards back then. 4 was chosen for power reasons to limit broken decks a little. It has nothing to do w/ flavor.

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Originally posted by caquaa:
well initially there was no limit on number of copies, so decks owuld just be lotus x a bunch, lightning bolt x a bunch, time twister x a bunch assuming it would be possible to track down those cards back then. 4 was chosen for power reasons to limit broken decks a little. It has nothing to do w/ flavor.

Why more then 1 copy? uh, well mostly to sell packs, but also so you can build decks that do what you want them to do because they are consistent instead of randomly hoping to see certain cards.

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I don't live in USA...

$16 Time Spiral

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Originally posted by Valor007:
If you really want a broken god hand for T2 then you want this:
Mountain, Mox Opal, Mox Opal, Memnite, Memnite, Kuldotha Rebirth, Bushwhacker, with Bushwhacker on Top of Library.
First turn 12 Damage second turn 14 damage.
Turn 2 Kill

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Originally posted by psilence6k:
Someone should buy this

I don't live in USA...

$16 Time Spiral

Carl!

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Originally posted by Mr.C:
MOpal is Legendary fyi.

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Originally posted by airwalk:
I'm actually amazed I lived to see the day when it would be a steal to get a Time Spiral for $16. Heck, after the huge bannings in Urza's block I mostly tossed them into the crap rare box where they got moldy and rotten... never during it's day did I think Saga was going to be akin to Legends, whoops.

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What exactly is an emblem? How does this pertain to the game of magic?

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