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JoshSherman
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quote:
Originally posted by joz:
Pretty sure I said Squadron Hawk would be a stupidly powerful card for T2...

A broken clock is right twice a day. You're right once a year? Maybe you should pump the brakes on the self-congratulating

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quote:
Originally posted by JoshSherman:
A broken clock is right twice a day. You're right once a year? Maybe you should pump the brakes on the self-congratulating


I also said that Frost Titan was going to be a $10.00 card and that Feat and Famine > Body and Mind

 
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quote:
Originally posted by joz:
I also said that Frost Titan was going to be a $10.00 card and that Feat and Famine > Body and Mind

Now you're just grasping for straws Who didn't say FF>BM?

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[Edited 1 times, lastly by JoshSherman on March 08, 2011]

 
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quote:
Originally posted by Skwirlnutz:
Although I do agree with you I have to say that Magic is kind of like a Sport, and the Pros are the Star Athletes of this "Sport" so yeah. Maybe one of Brian Keebler's fans will buy it. Doubt it though.


I just see them as regular nerds who happen to to do this right. If anything, the pros in this game aren't much different than the regulars.

Usually when I go to large events, I avoid people in "Blame Kibler" shirts and the like.

quote:
Originally posted by joz:
I also said that Frost Titan was going to be a $10.00 card and that Feat and Famine > Body and Mind

You need to be more bold and say something like this:

Sword of Vengeance > Sword of Body and Mind.

[Edited 1 times, lastly by Havoc Demon on March 08, 2011]

 
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I'm going to call it now:

After the next set is released, Sword of {Red} and {White} (Order/Chaos? Heart/Soul?) will be played in multiple formats and will be good.

I want credit for this first.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by yakusoku:
I'm going to call it now:

After the next set is released, Sword of {Red} and {White} (Order/Chaos? Heart/Soul?) will be played in multiple formats and will be good.

I want credit for this first.


As long as I get future credit for the deck that it will be used in both Legacy and Standard.

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And I get future credit for the next new $50 Goyf/Angel/Titan WOTC vomits on us.
 
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quote:
Originally posted by joz:
And I get future credit for the next new $50 Goyf/Angel/Titan WOTC vomits on us.

None of you were around for this, but back in 1993, I met a man named Richard Garfield who told me about this game he'd created. I called it back then that it would the most popular CCG in the history of the universe.

So, yeah...

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quote:
Originally posted by OGB:
None of you were around for this, but back in 1993, I met a man named Richard Garfield who told me about this game he'd created. I called it back then that it would the most popular CCG in the history of the universe.

So, yeah...


wow. so that makes you.. old?

 
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quote:
Originally posted by Myy:
wow. so that makes you.. old?

Now you're on the trolley!

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quote:
Originally posted by OGB:
Now you're on the trolley!


lol, sorry, that's the first thing that came to my mind , no offense intended. :P

 
joz
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quote:
Originally posted by OGB:
None of you were around for this, but back in 1993, I met a man named Richard Garfield who told me about this game he'd created. I called it back then that it would the most popular CCG in the history of the universe.

So, yeah...


Actually, I was around for that. Just in a different location.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by JoshSherman:
Now you're just grasping for straws Who didn't say FF>BM?


I dunno man, people were dissin' it pretty bad when it was spoiled. Saying it was the worst of the swords and crap. I had to get mine counseling just so it would function properly.



[Edited 1 times, lastly by hilikuS on March 08, 2011]

 
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Its not hard to see the hawk being powerful, but is it really stupid good without the other cards in the deck?

I think not.

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Sovarius
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Uhhhh.... I said bm>ff =[
I hate Feast and Famine. But also, i never liked Body and Mind much either.

Squawk itself really isn't format breaking, you don't have to worry about if they have one in hand or not. Aside from a U/W control deck protecting it and having the swords.... Is it really a force to be reckoned with?
Not that i really needed to point that out. But this whole Squadron Hawk thing is more like novelty, a temporary craze. A signed foil one shouldn't be worth 30 dollars to anyone....

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quote:
Originally posted by Sovarius:
Uhhhh.... I said bm>ff =[
I hate Feast and Famine. But also, i never liked Body and Mind much either.

Squawk itself really isn't format breaking, you don't have to worry about if they have one in hand or not. Aside from a U/W control deck protecting it and having the swords.... Is it really a force to be reckoned with?
Not that i really needed to point that out. But this whole Squadron Hawk thing is more like novelty, a temporary craze. A signed foil one shouldn't be worth 30 dollars to anyone....


With Jace + Fetches it can be an ancestral recall though

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Time and again I give MTGO more and more 2nd chances, and time and again I keep getting let down.

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quote:
Originally posted by AlmostGrown:
Time and again I give MTGO more and more 2nd chances, and time and again I keep getting let down.


Really? I have been crushing 8-4s all night....one draft I got passed Red Sun Zenith and 4/4 White Archangel and 4th pick scrapmelter

 
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I found this to be interesting. New trading guidelines for european GP's...

Trading
Although trading is both allowed and encouraged, please note that the following things are not permitted at this event:

* Buying/selling cards with anyone except for our authorized dealer(s)
* Soliciting to buy/sell cards elsewhere
* Advertising without receiving permission from Wizards of the Coast’s on-site Event Manager
* Utilizing an excessive amount of space when trading
* Using suitcases, handcarts, luggage carts, etc. for the purpose of transporting excessive amounts of trade stock.

Please note that failure to obey these rules may result in all involved parties being both removed from the event without refund, and banned from attending future events.

 
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18 lands, 3 Copper Myr, 1 Silver Myr and 3 other two-drops, 8 3-drops and I get mana screwed three games out of 5 in an online draft. (Stuck on two lands and miss land drops for 5 turns.)

I'm keeping hands like (after taking a mulligan):

Forest
Swamp
Cystbearer
Contagious Nim
Contagious Nim
Ichor Rats


Draw 5-drop
Draw equipment
Draw 3-drop
Draw Virulent Wound

LOSE.

I know it happens and that's randomness and shuffling, blah, blah, blah, but...

SO frustrating.

Should have played a 19th land instead of that 5-drop and I'd have won that match.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by andrew777:
I found this to be interesting. New trading guidelines for european GP's...

Trading
Although trading is both allowed and encouraged, please note that the following things are not permitted at this event:

* Buying/selling cards with anyone except for our authorized dealer(s)
* Soliciting to buy/sell cards elsewhere
* Advertising without receiving permission from Wizards of the Coast’s on-site Event Manager
* Utilizing an excessive amount of space when trading
* Using suitcases, handcarts, luggage carts, etc. for the purpose of transporting excessive amounts of trade stock.

Please note that failure to obey these rules may result in all involved parties being both removed from the event without refund, and banned from attending future events.


Pretty sure thats on most GP, pro tours, and even starcity opens

 
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quote:
Originally posted by yakusoku:
Cystbearer
Contagious Nim
Contagious Nim
Ichor Rats

Like you some infect, huh? Do you play much else? It really seems pretty solid this set.

At my fnm, no one ever picks up infect. A simple 12 year old beat a lot of ass with infect once. Aside from a few strays like the white Priests/Shrike and Blightwidows elsewhere i think he picked up every infect body. Seriously, must have had like 22 bodies >.>

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Originally posted by andrew777:
* Advertising without receiving permission from Wizards of the Coast’s on-site Event Manager


No more SCG shirts, then?

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quote:
Originally posted by yakusoku:
18 lands, 3 Copper Myr, 1 Silver Myr and 3 other two-drops, 8 3-drops and I get mana screwed three games out of 5 in an online draft. (Stuck on two lands and miss land drops for 5 turns.)

I'm keeping hands like (after taking a mulligan):

Forest
Swamp
Cystbearer
Contagious Nim
Contagious Nim
Ichor Rats


Draw 5-drop
Draw equipment
Draw 3-drop
Draw Virulent Wound

LOSE.

I know it happens and that's randomness and shuffling, blah, blah, blah, but...

SO frustrating.

Should have played a 19th land instead of that 5-drop and I'd have won that match.



I've had similar experiences, maybe Wiz programmed the shuffler to hate infect decks, lol

 
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quote:
Originally posted by Sovarius:
Like you some infect, huh? Do you play much else? It really seems pretty solid this set.

I probably play Infect 70% of the time, W/r aggro 20% of the time, and *other* 10% of the time. I think it's really solid, provided that it's open. I think it gives you the best chance to win the draft, but things can also go very wrong and you lose 0-2 because you just don't have enough guys. If it's not open, you really need to take a cue from the guy from your right that you should be drafting something else. I've had drafts where I'll P1P1 take Spread the Sickness, then take Leonin Skyhunter, Divine Offering, Leonin Skyhunter, Kuldotha Ringleader, Divine Offering, Piston Sledge, and be just fine that I never see more than one infect creature the first pack.

Because Infect is such a tempo deck, you notice bad hand moreso than in other strategies. If I play Leonin Skyhunter turn 4 instead of turn 2 or 3, it's still got a good chance of getting in there for 6 damage and helping me win. If I play a Contagious Nim on turn 6, unless I had turn three, four, and five with creatures and removal every turn, a 2/2 is going to get outclassed very quickly, even if my opponent plays subpar 2/4 guys for 4 mana.

I think lots of people really shy away from Infect because it's also possible that if it's overdrafted, you end up with an awful deck. I have more success with it than any other archetype, though and my friends are pretty sick of me drafting Infect all the time. When I draft online, if someone's watching over my shoulder, they often will comment:

"Oh, Virulent Wound. Big surprise. Then a Blightwidow? Why not. Rot Wolf, okay. Phyrexian Digester... are you SURE you draft non-infect decks?"

"I just went 3-0 with a W/r deck yesterday."

"If you say so. I don't believe it."

"You don't think I went 3-0?"

"Oh, I believe that part. I just think it was really with a deck with a dozen Infect creatures, some pump spells and removal."

 

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