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Absurd90
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posted May 12, 2011 07:59 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for Absurd90 Click Here to Email Absurd90 Send a private message to Absurd90 Click to send Absurd90 an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Omega:
Hey everyone, I think I am going to give magic one last shot this saturday (a Legacy tournament, that will be major).

Since I haven't followed the format for some years, anyone care to tell me how the format evolved? A quick look at The Source suggests that some of the past decks are still there. How will a deck, say Landstill (that's what I used to play...) will be?

Also, anyone know of any shop in Montreal that sells Perfect fit plastic for card?

ty

Robert

edit : How do you guys do to memorize the card value when trading in person? I don't own any smart phone :S


Just get 4 Mental Misstep and your standstill is as good as ever

[Edited 1 times, lastly by Absurd90 on May 12, 2011]

 
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quote:

edit : How do you guys do to memorize the card value when trading in person? I don't own any smart phone :S

You just memorize.

Yes, I know it's hard

 
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quote:
Originally posted by SageShadows:
Landstill's a horrible choice now. Some top decks being played (not necessarily Tier 1) are Dredge, Merfolk, Goblins, Countertop, Junk, Natural Order-Bant, Storm (both ANT and TES). This is by no means a comprehensive list; other people feel free to add to it!


I don't alot of cards that would allow me to build other decks. Time is also tight, and I do not wish to spend money (since its a test to see if I still have the 'magic' fire inside me!), so Landstill is basically my only choice... Check my H/W if you want to help me. But all of my cards are there. My options are kind of limited


quote:
Originally posted by Absurd90:
Just get 4 Mental Misstep and your standstill is as good as ever

I'll try to trade for some tomorrow at the release.

I think I'll bring a short list of the most important cards (namely, duals, fetches, etc... I guess I'll have to scout the shops price too)

 
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quote:
Originally posted by Omega:
I don't alot of cards that would allow me to build other decks. Time is also tight, and I do not wish to spend money (since its a test to see if I still have the 'magic' fire inside me!), so Landstill is basically my only choice... Check my H/W if you want to help me. But all of my cards are there. My options are kind of limited


I'll try to trade for some tomorrow at the release.

I think I'll bring a short list of the most important cards (namely, duals, fetches, etc... I guess I'll have to scout the shops price too)


Sorry, don't take me the wrong way. I firmly believe that any deck can win on any given day, and while Landstill has lost a bit of its luster, it can still be viable.

If you're doing it just as a testing of the waters, I hope you have a great time! I'm looking to get into Legacy, and I can't wait.

 
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Ideally, what should I play? If I want to get back to magic, I guess playing a good deck would help ^^ I'm torn between pure Control (Landstill-esque deck), or Aggro-Control.

I went to a weekly tournament today just to scout the metagame. It would appear that Affinity, Merfolk and other aggro are very present.

Robert

 
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quote:
Originally posted by Omega:
Ideally, what should I play? If I want to get back to magic, I guess playing a good deck would help ^^ I'm torn between pure Control (Landstill-esque deck), or Aggro-Control.

I went to a weekly tournament today just to scout the metagame. It would appear that Affinity, Merfolk and other aggro are very present.

Robert


Landstill is good vs bad players because people won't break the standstill because they are afraid of you drawing 3 cards.


Other players know when its fine to just let you draw 3.

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I want to build a tezz deck and I need artifacts against caw-blade. I have torpor orb, but I was thinking about mortarpod as well. Is this a good card to kill hawks in response to the equip?

I don't play standard at all so I was looking for some help.

thanks,

[Edited 1 times, lastly by gcowhsu on May 13, 2011]

 
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quote:
Originally posted by Omega:
Ideally, what should I play? If I want to get back to magic, I guess playing a good deck would help ^^ I'm torn between pure Control (Landstill-esque deck), or Aggro-Control.

I went to a weekly tournament today just to scout the metagame. It would appear that Affinity, Merfolk and other aggro are very present.

Robert


Sounds like No Show would win here. Or Junk with extra Deeds or Eng Explosives. Stax has a good matchup against aggro as well.


[Edited 1 times, lastly by gcowhsu on May 13, 2011]

 
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quote:
Originally posted by gcowhsu:
I want to build a tezz deck and I need artifacts against caw-blade. I have torpor orb, but I was thinking about mortarpod as well. Is this a good card to kill hawks in response to the equip?

I don't play standard at all so I was looking for some help.

thanks,


BAD idea on the Mortarpod. Caw-Blade runs it as one of its key equipment, next to Sword of Feast and Famine. It's been run over Sword of Body and Mind, Sylvok Lifestaff, and all other equipment because it's that good in the deck. I've won games because I was able to attack, deal combat damage, untap my lands, sacrifice the Hawk carrying the Mortarpod, equip to a second Hawk, sac for one point, equip to a third Hawk and deal the last point of damage.

Using pinpoint removal on S. Hawks is a bad idea in general. Arc Trail is pretty much the only acceptable removal, since it takes out two, but even then it's not really ideal, since you still have two more to deal with.

Mortarpod is good IN Caw-Blade because it can throw out Hawks left and right and sacrifice them to take down players, Lotus Cobras, and planeswalkers.

If you really want to deal with Hawks with Swords, you should run a combination of Contagion Clasp which also kills a Hawk (provided it's not carrying equipment already) and Tumble Magnet, which taps down a Hawk with equipment. The two together have obvious synergy as you can kill a hawk, tap a hawk, and Proliferate so that you put a counter on Tezzeret to negate the one damage you take from a third Hawk and put another counter on Tumble Magnet to keep the one with equipment tapped.

 
wayne
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2x Corpse Cur + Mortarpod + Fangren Marauder + Glissa = pew pew

Would have been more fun if I had a Perlirous Myr

 
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Opened up my NPH Fat pack and pulled 2x Surgical Extraction.
NO Karn or Sword though

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Lack of Pernicious Deed will prevent me from going this route.

The only mass removal at hand are : Wrath of god, Engineered explosives, Humility

i was thinking something like this :

Kill (Around 5)
0-2 Jace the MindSculptor (I don't know if anyone will lend me those)
0-2 Elspeth Knight Errant (Depending on the number of Jace)
2 Thopter Foundry (Discovered this combo, looks nice!)
1 Sword of Meek

Counter 11
4 Force of will
4 Mental Misstep
3 Counterspell/Spellsnare/Spellpierce

Draw (around 12)
4 brainstorm
3-4 Standstill
2-3 Enlightened tutor
1-2 Sensei's divining top (I really love this card, but many people say its not a good idea to play it without Counterbalance)
0-2 fact or fiction

Removal (around 11)
2-3 Wrath of God
2-3 Engineered Explosives
1 Humility
4 Swords to Plowshare
0-2 Fire/Ice

Tool Box (0-3)
0-1 Crucible of Worlds
0-1 Oblivion Ring
0-1 pithing Needle


LANDS : 24
1 Academy Ruins
3 Mishra's Factory
2-3 Wasteland
6-7 Fetchland
2 Island
2 Plain
3-4 Tundra
0-2 Volcanic Island
0-1 Plateau
X other colour Dual (Underground sea/Tropical Island)


Red splash would allow me to play in the SB :
2-3 Firespout : Against aggro, such as goblin, Elves, Merfolk
3 Red Elemental Blast : Control, Blue based deck, Merfolk
3 graveyard hate (Tormod's crypt and Relic of Progenitus)
0-3 Meddling mage : Combo, Dredge and can be played in some other match
3 more removal. I was thinking Lighting Helix. Best against Zoo. Kill one of their guy, and gain 3 more life to stall the game a bit more

thoughts?

 
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quote:
Originally posted by MeddlingMage:
Opened up my NPH Fat pack and pulled 2x Surgical Extraction.
NO Karn or Sword though

~MM


Mine had 2x Karn and it really made my day. The rest was awful though, some real junk.

 
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I wonder how long it will take to get NPH in the trade matcher...

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Launch Parties are AWESOME.

Opened yet another (!) Elesh Norn, which made short work of many an opponent. Also got 5 mana myr in relevant colors and a mycosynth wellspring so I ended up running G/W/r with Artillerize and Beast Within among other removal. Other rares I used were Mimic Vat and Chancellor of the Annex.

Traded my Elesh for another guy's Vorinclex (what I really wanted).

Ended up getting 3rd place and won 5 packs. Not a bad night at all

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@Omega:

Im not sure why you are not playing top/c.balance?

with 7 fetches and 11-12 stacking effects it would make sense.

 
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Release tournament was awesome, went undefeated(2-0, 2-0, 2-0, draw into Top 8, 2-0, 2-0, split)

Here's what I drafted:

1x Signal Pest
1x Gust Skimmer
1x Thrummingbird
1x Kemba's Skyguard
1x Spined Thopter
1x Deceiver Exarch
2x Trespassing Souleater
4x Serum Raker
1x Impaler Shrike
1x Darkslick Drake
1x Spire Monitor

1x Contagion Clasp
2x Dispense Justice
1x Arrest
1x Sickleslicer
1x Bonehoard
1x Quicksilver Geyser
1x Elspeth Tirel

11x Island
6x Plains

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Ugh. This is getting really annoying. In the past 24 hours we've gone from "Oops, we sold your release event boxes" to "we'll hand deliver boxes tomorrow morning" to "we'll be there at 3" to "oh, only 5 people stuck around after we never left, so we won't bother bringing you anything."

In completely unrelated news, I not be a TO anymore effective July 1 unless I find a new location with another store.

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quote:
Originally posted by nderdog:
Ugh. This is getting really annoying. In the past 24 hours we've gone from "Oops, we sold your release event boxes" to "we'll hand deliver boxes tomorrow morning" to "we'll be there at 3" to "oh, only 5 people stuck around after we never left, so we won't bother bringing you anything."

In completely unrelated news, I not be a TO anymore effective July 1 unless I find a new location with another store.


Completely unrelated? ORLY?

 
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Release was awesome placed 3! Drafted 4x Geths Verdict, Lash Writhe, Praetors Grasp owned all night till i hit a mirror match. We both had the same deck except for a few cards.
 
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I'm really get sick of altered cards, especially those that still use the original artwork but only add borders that block out the original artist's name, like it's the hack's own work.
 
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uhh this might be a silly question but does this card look not foil to anyone else?

http://tinyurl.com/3begu2q

 
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quote:
Originally posted by stacker:
uhh this might be a silly question but does this card look not foil to anyone else?

http://tinyurl.com/3begu2q


It doesn't matter what it looks like - it was advertised as a foil and as long as you get a foil that's all that matters.

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So Spellskite. SCG has it as a 10$ rare what's it real price around here? Seems to just be a good T2 card or is it legit longterm?
 
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quote:
Originally posted by Doulos519:
my
boseiju
regal force
2xsummonig trap
4xsmother
chainers edict
liliana vess (pick a set)
maga
Damnation (MPR)
Drana
Sign in blood (MPR)

YOUR
2xmarsh flats
misty rainforest
natural order
4 inquisition (of kozilek)


I can be stingy, but this is blatantly ignorant. "Trading with me you can be assured not to get screwed" - haha. And apparently i'm not the only one he's messing with.
I hope no one trades with him - and make sure you have him send first if you do.

Edit: replied just with "WOW, where are you getting your values??"

I get back: "eh had to try. ill send another offer in the morning".
Wow.

quote:
Originally posted by TimeBeing:
So Spellskite. SCG has it as a 10$ rare what's it real price around here? Seems to just be a good T2 card or is it legit longterm?

I haven't had any dealing with it personally but magiccards.info shows lots of stores have it at around 5. I imagine not too far off for what you should expect to pay here.
This is why i hate SCG....
As for the card, what kind of use is it getting right now? The ability is pretty cool but i can only imagine his body being put in control builds. An aggressive deck is going to more concerned with more stronger faster creatures than protecting them for a bit.

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