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harbingerofthevoid
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quote:
Originally posted by WeedIan:
So its just a Pestermite/Kiki infinite combo thing, make a million dudes attack FTW?


Yep, Exarch survives Bolt, so t4 win.

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quote:
Originally posted by harbingerofthevoid:
Yep, Exarch survives Bolt, so t4 win.


But it doesn't survive:
Grasp of Darkness
Go for the Throat
Doom Blade

Or being super-burned out:
Burst Lighnting (kicked)
double bolt
double burst lightning

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[Edited 1 times, lastly by AlmostGrown on April 30, 2011]

 
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quote:
Originally posted by AlmostGrown:
But it doesn't survive:
Grasp of Darkness
Go for the Throat
Doom Blade

Or being super-burned out:
Burst Lighnting (kicked)
double bolt
double burst lightning


Nor does it survive Geth's Verdict or Dismember - which are in the same set oddly enough (Hmmmm...)

 
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Didn't know the Exarch had flash. Someone stupid is going to get punked on turn 3 when it locks them out of their only answer end of turn.

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So my lack of standard knowledge will surely show but concluded that it doesn't survive:

- a long list of black cards
- a kicked spell that costs 5
- double Bolt/Burst/Trail

So I guess we shall conclude that in a heavy BR meta (Vampires/Boros), people aren't going to pay $6+ a pop to try it out.

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quote:
Originally posted by harbingerofthevoid:
So my lack of standard knowledge will surely show but concluded that it doesn't survive:

- a long list of black cards
- a kicked spell that costs 5
- double Bolt/Burst/Trail

So I guess we shall conclude that in a heavy BR meta (Vampires/Boros), people aren't going to pay $6+ a pop to try it out.




I'm guessing Grixis control for a deck that goes for it.
Or just random R/U control

Spell Peirce, Mana Leak, Lightning Bolt, Geth's Verdict, Dismember, Duress, Despise, the combo, Slagstorm, Preordain. etc...


[Edited 1 times, lastly by joz on April 30, 2011]

 
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It will likely be U/R, Burn/Counters + Combo, maybe a alternate finisher depending on what M12 brings us..

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quote:
Originally posted by joz:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by harbingerofthevoid:
So my lack of standard knowledge will surely show but concluded that it doesn't survive:

- a long list of black cards
- a kicked spell that costs 5
- double Bolt/Burst/Trail

So I guess we shall conclude that in a heavy BR meta (Vampires/Boros), people aren't going to pay $6+ a pop to try it out.




I'm guessing Grixis control for a deck that goes for it.
Or just random R/U control

Spell Peirce, Mana Leak, Lightning Bolt, Geth's Verdict, Dismember, Duress, Despise, the combo, Slagstorm, Preordain. etc...[/QUOTE]


because this deck is just 60 combo cards and no way to protect it right

 
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I had to laugh when I looked on Ebay and saw people trying to sell off playsets of Splinter Twin for $80 BIN.

EDIT: oops...sorry that was for foil. Still, $40 for a regular playset. That's just absurd.

[Edited 2 times, lastly by daner on April 30, 2011]

 
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Hahaha, wow, I actually didn't miss the boat on the crap rare turned hot card this time around. Better move these fast before it's realized that it's going to suck.

[Edited 2 times, lastly by airwalk on April 30, 2011]
 
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Was this version of Glory (promo) ever printed in english?

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quote:
Originally posted by AlmostGrown:
Was this version of Glory (promo) ever printed in english?


Nope. It's a prerelease promo.

http://www.magiclibrarities.net/rarities-release.html

[Edited 2 times, lastly by airwalk on April 30, 2011]

 
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quote:
Originally posted by airwalk:
Nope. It's a prerelease promo.

http://www.magiclibrarities.net/rarities-release.html


I own one ^_^

 
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quote:
Originally posted by joz:
I own one ^_^

Big deal! They're only like $3!

 
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quote:
Originally posted by joz:
I own one ^_^

So does most everyone who attended the prerelease.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by airwalk:
So does most everyone who attended the prerelease.

Its the only shiny card I willingly own and use.

I should've mentioned that.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by joz:
Its the only shiny card I willingly own and use.

I should've mentioned that.


I have one in my cube, I think its the only non-english card left. I want rid of it for an english foil.

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quote:
Originally posted by WeedIan:
I have one in my cube, I think its the only non-english card left. I want rid of it for an english foil.


I'd take it off your hands, but I don't have an english foil version of it.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by joz:
I own one ^_^

I own one...except mine doesn't have a pre-release stamp on it....

 
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Originally posted by James_Hetfield2:
I spent 2 hrs this morning trying to find my junk ROE rares to see if I had any Splinter Twins.

I bulked mine on MTGO

 
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The combo isn't as vulnerable as some of you might think cause all you need to do is protect the creature till the enchantment gets on it after it's summoning sickness is gone. Afterwards, there's almost nothing that can be done about it. You can wait until end of turn to make the tokens or if your opponent kills it, you can in response make a million tokens without having to sac them at the end of turn because the enchantment is in the graveyard. But I do have to fear mass removals like the zenith or ratchet bombs.

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Originally posted by mtglover:
You can wait until end of turn to make the tokens or if your opponent kills it, you can in response make a million tokens without having to sac them at the end of turn because the enchantment is in the graveyard.

Incorrect. From the rulings in gatherer about splinter twin:

6/15/2010 The token is exiled at the beginning of the next end step regardless of who controls it at that time, or whether Splinter Twin or the enchanted creature is still on the battlefield at that time.

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quote:
Originally posted by mtglover:
TAfterwards, there's almost nothing that can be done about it.

Also incorrect. That damage or kill spell you've been holding can be used with any of the activated abilities on the stack, assuming it's an instant. The combo is almost just as vulnerable post-Splinter Twin as it is before. Post-Splinter Twin, it can replace itself.

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Just got that from FB of Jesper Myrfors:

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Some people really need to get their mouths washed out with soap more often...

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Wow, that is incredibly disrespectful.

Edit: Zenith and Ratchet bomb is pretty much what you don't need to be scared of (unless it is already set at 3). Anything sorcery speed really doesn't matter, since you'll probably be flashing deceiver exarch eot and then playing splinter twin and immediately makin a ton of dudes

[Edited 1 times, lastly by LemonMeringue on May 01, 2011]

 

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