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Topic: Post for Magic Stuff Part 59
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gcowhsu Member
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posted August 26, 2011 09:14 AM
  
if they ban natural order LOL FTV Legends.
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-Lunch_Box- Member
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posted August 26, 2011 09:30 AM

quote: Originally posted by caquaa: whichever one you can sell locally for ~$90 unopened. Opening boxes typically is poor return. I'd rather sell it to someone and buy singles.
That is the greatest response ever for all of the which box threads!
[Edited 2 times, lastly by -Lunch_Box- on August 26, 2011]
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farsk8dutch Member
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posted August 26, 2011 09:34 AM
  
quote: Originally posted by oneofchaos: So I haven't been following legacy too closely lately. The only thing I hear about the format is show and tell and natural order need to get banned. Any truth to this or is this just because of the last few SCG's.
People tend to get all touchy feely about cards that force you to respond to them, or lose. Personally I think a few cards could be removed from the Banned List.
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WeedIan Member
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posted August 26, 2011 09:48 AM
  
quote: Originally posted by farsk8dutch: People tend to get all touchy feely about cards that force you to respond to them, or lose. Personally I think a few cards could be removed from the Banned List.
Earthcraft? Hermit Druid? Windfall? Those are the only 3 that standout as unbannable to me. __________________ Member Since 03/28/2001 10000+ posts 3rd in posts in Ontario 15th in posts on MOTL Top 5 in Refs in Ontario (by people who location posted)
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Sharkey Member
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posted August 26, 2011 09:57 AM

Can anybody tell me if the Promo Pre-release Lotus Bloom came in languages other than English?I know the regular foils were printed in English, French, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, Japanese, Chinese, and Russian. Thanks.  Edit: spelling
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SageShadows Member
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posted August 26, 2011 10:04 AM

quote: Originally posted by WeedIan: Earthcraft?Hermit Druid? Windfall? Those are the only 3 that standout as unbannable to me.
I'm pretty sure 1 card combo is pretty sick (Hermit Druid).
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WeedIan Member
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posted August 26, 2011 10:22 AM
  
quote: Originally posted by SageShadows:
I'm pretty sure 1 card combo is pretty sick (Hermit Druid).
Ahh i just re-read it and i understand why its banned now.
__________________ Member Since 03/28/2001 10000+ posts 3rd in posts in Ontario 15th in posts on MOTL Top 5 in Refs in Ontario (by people who location posted)
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rats60 Member
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posted August 26, 2011 10:58 AM
  
quote: Originally posted by WeedIan: Earthcraft?Hermit Druid? Windfall? Those are the only 3 that standout as unbannable to me.
Earthcraft + Squirrel's Nest is too fast of a combo for Legacy.
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I3Iood Member
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posted August 26, 2011 11:57 AM

quote: Originally posted by rats60: Earthcraft + Squirrel's Nest is too fast of a combo for Legacy.
It is faster than hive mind?
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Pringlesman Member
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posted August 26, 2011 12:16 PM

quote: Originally posted by rats60: Earthcraft + Squirrel's Nest is too fast of a combo for Legacy.
How is a turn 4 win too fast? turn 1 creature turn 2 Earthcraft turn 3 squirrelnest, untap land using the creature, make infinite squirrels turn 4 win
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rats60 Member
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posted August 26, 2011 12:54 PM
  
quote: Originally posted by I3Iood: It is faster than hive mind?
It's just as fast, but easier. It's a 2 card combo, Hive Mind requires 3.
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bstrom213 Banned
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posted August 26, 2011 01:21 PM

quote: Originally posted by rats60: It's just as fast, but easier. It's a 2 card combo, Hive Mind requires 3.
But the three are more flexible
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AlmostGrown Member
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posted August 26, 2011 01:48 PM
  
lol unban windfall...it'd break storm based decks, reanimator, dredge, and probably more. theres a reason wheel of fortune is banned in legacy.
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revenger Member
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posted August 26, 2011 02:49 PM
  
Can some1 tell me the going rate for bulk and/or if Im correct in my pricing of bulk? .10 - .15 for crap rares, $2 for 1000 commons, $4 for uncommons. thanks!
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rats60 Member
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posted August 26, 2011 04:09 PM
  
quote: Originally posted by bstrom213: But the three are more flexible
LOL. What good is Hive Mind with out a pact? Or a pact without the mana to pay for it?
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Bagbokk Member
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posted August 26, 2011 04:24 PM

quote: Originally posted by revenger: Can some1 tell me the going rate for bulk and/or if Im correct in my pricing of bulk? .10 - .15 for crap rares, $2 for 1000 commons, $4 for uncommons. thanks!
Fine for bulk rares. I'm getting about $6-7/1000 for bulk mixed U/Cs on eBay so I think your prices on those are a tad low.
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iccarus Member
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posted August 26, 2011 04:54 PM
  
quote: Originally posted by rats60: LOL. What good is Hive Mind with out a pact? Or a pact without the mana to pay for it?
I think the point he was trying to make is that you can run more than 4 pacts. Maybe? __________________ Wisconsin - smells like dairy air!I collect Granite Gargoyles. Send them my way.
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bstrom213 Banned
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posted August 26, 2011 05:16 PM

quote: Originally posted by rats60: LOL. What good is Hive Mind with out a pact? Or a pact without the mana to pay for it?
Use your brain quote: Originally posted by iccarus: I think the point he was trying to make is that you can run more than 4 pacts. Maybe?
Exactly, and you can use either show and tell or monolith to play the mind hive
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Bugger Member
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posted August 26, 2011 06:10 PM

quote: Originally posted by bstrom213: Use your brain
Neither of those situations are any good unless you're comboing.
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Exactly, and you can use either show and tell or monolith to play the mind hive
I don't think you understand what the word "flexible" means. It does not mean you can run multiple copies of what is effectively the same combo piece. It means that the three basic pieces - show and tell, Hive mind, and a Pact - are all useful on their own even when you're not using them together to combo off. Now, in the case of show and tell, this is true - you can use it to cast Emrakul. In the cases of Hive Mind and Pacts, this isn't really true. __________________ It is a known fact that more Americans watch the television than any other appliance.
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Goaswerfraiejen Member
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posted August 26, 2011 07:46 PM

quote: Originally posted by oneofchaos: So I haven't been following legacy too closely lately. The only thing I hear about the format is show and tell and natural order need to get banned. Any truth to this or is this just because of the last few SCG's.
Show and Tell is a possibility, but unlikely in the extreme. It's very strong, but clearly not too strong for Legacy. IMO, the biggest problem with Show and Tell is Emrakul, and the biggest problem with Emrakul is Annihilator SIX. Six permanents is ridiculous; it effectively scuppers any chance of getting around its protection from colours. That being, said, I don't mind having either of them running around. The recent printing of Phyrexian Metamorph makes it seem unlikely that either will be getting banned any time soon: there are quite a few decent answers out there now. Hive Mind makes for a very strong and resilient combo deck, but waning interest makes its banning seem unlikely as well. As for Natural Order... there's no way that's getting the axe. Once again, it's significantly worse without Progenitus, but it's also a sorcery that costs four mana and one creature. Don't get me wrong, it's very powerful, but it's not all that hard to deal with it fairly effectively in a number of colours, blue, black, and white foremost among them. It's still perfectly fair in the format, just as Goblins, Merfolk, Dredge, and Storm combo are fair. While I do think that NO RUG is currently overhyped (NO BUG is better! Not to mention that access to Darkblast makes a massive difference vs. RUG ), I don't think interest will die down a whole lot: it's here to stay for a while, pending new developments in future sets. On that note, I'd like to see people running the super-secret tech that is Sudden Spoiling more often. Frankly, I don't think there's anything currently in Legacy that's calling out for a banning at the moment. I love the sheer diversity of the decks out there: at any given tournament, I can't be sure what I'll face, and they're all highly competitive decks. It makes for very interesting games. I'm biased against Emrakul, but that's just my own personal bias (Annihilator SIX really angers me--even when I'm the one with the Emrakul). I'm kind of tempted to see Gush unbanned, even though I know full well that would be absolute lunacy. __________________ "I have heard the mermaids singing, each to each. I do not think they will sing to me." -T.S. EliotRIP Ari Legacy UGB River Rock primer. PM comments/questions. Info on grad school in Phil.
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Jazaray Moderator
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posted August 26, 2011 10:37 PM

Just to make this more known. I've banned the account ChrisKool. DO NOT make any trades with him. DO NOT send out if you've confirmed a trade with him. He's a ripper and impersonating someone in the Magic Community. Thanks, Jazaray
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potaguitar Member
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posted August 27, 2011 01:35 AM

Ok this sounds like a stupid question because I have been on this site for over 3 years, but how the heck are you supposed to search for split cards? I need a playset of boom/busts and nothing I type into the search button is working.
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caquaa Member
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posted August 27, 2011 02:20 AM
  
quote: Originally posted by potaguitar: Ok this sounds like a stupid question because I have been on this site for over 3 years, but how the heck are you supposed to search for split cards? I need a playset of boom/busts and nothing I type into the search button is working.
I just searched for "boom" and seemed to work fine.
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potaguitar Member
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posted August 27, 2011 02:36 AM

quote: Originally posted by caquaa: I just searched for "boom" and seemed to work fine.
Thanks! I guess I should have searched in both sections before asking that dumb question. No boom/bust are showing up in TA/Sales is why I asked.
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rats60 Member
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posted August 27, 2011 07:43 AM
  
quote: Originally posted by bstrom213: Use your brainExactly, and you can use either show and tell or monolith to play the mind hive
Why don't you answer my question? You are the one who needs to use his brain. What are you going to do with the Hive Mind if you don't have any pacts? Your going to sit there and look like and idiot, because only an idiot casts Hive Mind without a pact in hand. If you don't have Hive Mind in play, your pacts are worthless cards. Those pieces have no flexability to them. They are worthless without the other. Even if you cast Hive Mind using monolith, you are still using a 3 card combo. Common sense, which you must be lacking, says it is easier to assemble a 2 card combo than a 3 card one.
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