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Originally posted by caquaa:
its the same seller the guy has listed in that article. I only skimmed it, but this sounds like its going to end fairly badly.

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I’m very glad that you wrote this article, even though rather bittersweet for me to read. You see, I am the person who won auction A, and I went through more or less the same thought process you did when analyzing this listing. I’ve bought several smaller collections before, but never anything even close to this expensive. Nonetheless, the sheer potential of this thing convinced me that I had to go for it, and as you said above, the info on ebay seemed to indicate that this wasn’t a scam.
When the package showed up, I was giddy. Well, until I actually opened the boxes…then I felt like I was punched in the stomach. Those Alpha cards pictured? Among the 28,000 or so cards, those 5 are literally the only Alpha cards, period. Same with the Betas. And those rares he shows in the photos? Literally the ONLY rares in the whole lot. It is a massive assortment of bulk commons and uncommons, from sets up to and including M12. There is absolutely nothing of any value here; the most valuable card in the lot is a lone copy of Swiftfoot Boots.
Words cannot describe how cheated I feel by this clearly deliberate scam.
Now I see there is another, very similar auction up from a different seller who lives in the same area (thanks sKink and q1006662 for that link!). I just would like to warn everyone not to be fooled by this; I’d imagine this is connected to the auction I won somehow due to the incredible similarities there. I guess that old adage about things that seem too good to be true is correct once again.

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What a con-artist!

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Originally posted by Volcanon:
If I buy cards on Starcity do they actually refuse to refund if it never arrives?

"Although United States Postal Service (USPS) shipping options often cost less than UPS, and problems seldom occur, selecting USPS shipping options is done at your own risk. If you choose USPS, you agree to bear sole responsibility in the event your shipment is lost and acknowledge and agree that StarCityGames.com shall have no responsibility to reimburse any funds paid for any lost merchandise or to compensate you in any way for the lost shipment. If you would like an insured, guaranteed and trackable shipping method, you must choose a UPS shipping option.
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Just pay with Visa, Visa will go after SCGs for not delivering and you'll get your money back. To be fair they should require you to get insurance when your purchase is over X, and eat the loss if its under X.

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Originally posted by choco man:
How come M12 cards don't show up on the trade matcher/card searcher?

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They haven't been added to the list yet.

That ebay lot is just funny I wouldn't gamble on that lot either.

EDIT: Holy poop, Mishra's Factories have hit $30 each?! Does the season make much of a difference (my four are all fall)?

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EDIT: Holy poop, Mishra's Factories have hit $30 each?! Does the season make much of a difference (my four are all fall)?

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Originally posted by Goaswerfraiejen:
Ha. Amusing that there was an article on this exact topic (the 25 000 cards) floating out there. It was a fun read, too. Good work MOTL.

EDIT: Holy poop, Mishra's Factories have hit $30 each?! Does the season make much of a difference (my four are all fall)?

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Yep. Winter is *way* more than the rest.

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http://www.ebay.com/itm/Huge-Magic-Gathering-Deckmaster-Lot-/310341940397?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4841d234ad

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Originally posted by Ihateworking:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/250883052612?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2 649

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Huge-Magic-Gathering-Deckmaster-Lot -/310341940397?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4841d234ad

$10,000. WOW, I am speechless!

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Yeah, I'm gonna guess someone just inflated this through shill bidding. At least I hope that's the case. Otherwise this goes beyond "stupid tax."

In other news, PT T8 is dominated by combo and all the former junk rares are through the roof. Big sighs at $10 through the breach.

T8 lists - http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/eventcoverage /ptphi11/top8Decklists

EDIT: Is there anything they can even ban to stop the combo decks? Ponder/Preordain/Sleight of Hand?

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I want to see some decklists from the PTQ to see if i want to build a modern deck or not.

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I wonder if i have any of those in a bad rare box!

I want to see some decklists from the PTQ to see if i want to build a modern deck or not.

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I wonder if i have any of those in a bad rare box!

I want to see some decklists from the PTQ to see if i want to build a modern deck or not.

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Build Poison.

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Build Poison.

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I have to admit, I love Sam's build on that deck. It's a pretty cool approach. I'll be curious to read his write up on it.

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Love all the price jumps, Birthing Pod is close to 10, Through the Breach hit 10, Blazing Shoal is ~8, and list goes on...

and wow top 8 is super combo

2 Twin/Kiki
2 Pyromancers
1 Zoo
1 Afinity
1 TwelvePost
1 Blue Infect

So basically 6 Combo decks and two agro decks :P..

Wonder if WoTC will make any amends to the banned list after this?

Thinking at the very least Mental Mistep maybe comming off to keep, well ALOT of things in check..

Not sure of anything they might be able to Ban, to slow things down a turn or two..

Reading seems like alot of games were done by turn 2-3, which is much faster then what WoTC anted Modern to be, they basicaly stated they didn't want anything to really win combo wise before turn 4, which sadily didn't turn out that way.

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Probally cause of all the shocks/fetches, do most players really have the 4 life to spend on Dismember?

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Yeah, but if this was going to be a combo format anyways (as many of the pros already read it out to be), then the life totals would be irrelevant anyways.

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Originally posted by Lord Crovax:
Reading seems like alot of games were done by turn 2-3, which is much faster then what WoTC anted Modern to be, they basicaly stated they didn't want anything to really win combo wise before turn 4, which sadily didn't turn out that way.

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Pro Tour New Orleans part 2. Combo is a natural part of a game that is so wonderfully complex. Blazing Shoal + Dragonstorm + Blighted Agent is just an innovative find by deckbuilders.

Yet, I feel WOTC can relieve themselves a lot of headaches by not printing junk like Emrakul.

That card is just an abomination. Pro-colored spells? Horribly over-designed compared with the other two Eldrazi. Instead of innovating, all you really have to do is combo it with stuff like Breach/Sneak Attack/Show and Tell.

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Originally posted by thror:
I dont even think unbanning misstep, Jace AND visions would make blue control viable. the combo decks all still require different hate cards, and they're FAST. Might need to ban cloudpost and rite of flame at this point. fast mana == bad times.

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There was a lot of fast mana around when Mind's Desire was legal.

Honestly, those combo decks are really vulnerable. When the pros during the interviews compared them to Legacy Belcher, I think they were pretty spot on. Only there's no CBTop/FOW/MM/Cursecatcher to keep them honest at all.

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I can see Rite of Flame and Vesuva getting the axe

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Doesn't banning Glimmerpost hurt them much more? Vesuva always has to be played after Cloudpost to be effective. And Glimmerpost's free life gain is brutal against aggro.