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SageShadows
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posted August 27, 2011 09:48 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for SageShadows Click Here to Email SageShadows Send a private message to SageShadows Click to send SageShadows an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by rats60:
Why don't you answer my question? You are the one who needs to use his brain. What are you going to do with the Hive Mind if you don't have any pacts? Your going to sit there and look like and idiot, because only an idiot casts Hive Mind without a pact in hand. If you don't have Hive Mind in play, your pacts are worthless cards. Those pieces have no flexability to them. They are worthless without the other.

Even if you cast Hive Mind using monolith, you are still using a 3 card combo. Common sense, which you must be lacking, says it is easier to assemble a 2 card combo than a 3 card one.



The thing is that it isn't REALLY a 3 card combo. All you need is Hive Mind and a pact. Show and Tell can just be seen as a really good ritual which protects your Hive Mind from countermagic. It's not often that a piece of the combo doubles as protection (Pact of Negation). While it's nice to label Hive Mind as an 3 card combo and leave it at that, you have to realize that the actual case is far more fluid (you can hardcast Hive Mind or Show and Tell it in or Show and Tell in Emrakul or use Pact of Negations to protect the combo). Usually, it's rare for you to not draw into one of your 10+ pacts. I guess the tl;dr is that: Yeah, it seems like a 3 card combo, but it's an effective 3 card combo in legacy.
EDIT: Also, intuition is gross.

[Edited 1 times, lastly by SageShadows on August 27, 2011]
 
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http://classic.magictraders.com/ubb/Forum3/HTML/087055.html

expecting 90% of SCG sales price for your collection seems ambitious, even if its a nice collection

 
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quote:
Originally posted by MagixDK:
http://classic.magictraders.com/ubb/Forum3/HTML/087055.html

expecting 90% of SCG sales price for your collection seems ambitious, even if its a nice collection


I don't think that one sentence comports with the rest of his post. He says SCG would sell it at 14k minimum, but he wants 10.5k for it. That's not 85-90%.

 
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its right there.

"I am expecting around 85/90% of star city sales prices for my collection."

 
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quote:
Originally posted by rats60:
Why don't you answer my question? You are the one who needs to use his brain. What are you going to do with the Hive Mind if you don't have any pacts? Your going to sit there and look like and idiot, because only an idiot casts Hive Mind without a pact in hand. If you don't have Hive Mind in play, your pacts are worthless cards. Those pieces have no flexability to them. They are worthless without the other.

Even if you cast Hive Mind using monolith, you are still using a 3 card combo. Common sense, which you must be lacking, says it is easier to assemble a 2 card combo than a 3 card one.


Apparently "use your brain" is good advice only for the average idiot. Your "common sense" doesn't explain why delusion and donate, a 2 card combo, isnt viable anymore. Please master, tell us more about your "common sense"

 
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quote:
Originally posted by bstrom213:
Apparently "use your brain" is good advice only for the average idiot. Your "common sense" doesn't explain why delusion and donate, a 2 card combo, isnt viable anymore. Please master, tell us more about your "common sense"

lolol changing the subject and trolling people =/= winning the argument. Try again.

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quote:
Originally posted by bstrom213:
Apparently "use your brain" is good advice only for the average idiot. Your "common sense" doesn't explain why delusion and donate, a 2 card combo, isnt viable anymore. Please master, tell us more about your "common sense"

Probably because it is a 3 card combo and it costs too much. It looks like MOTL has a new village idiot.

 
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posted August 27, 2011 11:54 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for Pringlesman Click Here to Email Pringlesman Send a private message to Pringlesman Click to send Pringlesman an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
I'm so impatient.

"Man, I posted on your trade thread 10 minuites ago, why haven't you replied yet!"

 
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quote:
Originally posted by MagixDK:
its right there.

"I am expecting around 85/90% of star city sales prices for my collection."


Uhh... Exactly? Read this again:

quote:
I don't think that one sentence comports with the rest of his post. He says SCG would sell it at 14k minimum, but he wants 10.5k for it. That's not 85-90%.

If I actually have to clarify more: The statement that "I am expecting 85-90% of SCG" does not comport with his later statements that SCG would sell the collection at 14k+ combined with his asking price of $10,500. $10,500 (what he wants for the collection) is not 85-90% of $14,000 (what he says SCG would sell it at). So yes, the sentence you quoted is in his sale post, but again, it's not actually what he's asking for.

[Edited 3 times, lastly by Bagbokk on August 27, 2011]

 
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Cannot wait until next week's V5CB, thought up a nifty deck

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quote:
Originally posted by Bugger:
lolol changing the subject and trolling people =/= winning the argument. Try again.


take your own advice

quote:
Originally posted by rats60:
Probably because it is a 3 card combo and it costs too much. It looks like MOTL has a new village idiot.

At first I thought there was a correlation between refs and respectability, but you clearly proved that wrong. From your recent posts, if I were you, I really wouldn't be calling anyone else the "village idiot"

ps, learn to count

 
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quote:
Originally posted by bstrom213:
trololololololllll

gotcha. Don't let the door smack you on the ass on your way out of MOTL, trolls tend to not last too long on here.

Speaking of which, where are stu or coolio when you need 'em?

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Tha Gunslinga
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Knock it off, guys.

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I just thought of a funny way to annoy people in EDH. Animate dead + kederekt leviathan.

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quote:
Originally posted by rockondon:
I just thought of a funny way to annoy people in EDH. Animate dead + kederekt leviathan.


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quote:
Originally posted by rockondon:
I just thought of a funny way to annoy people in EDH. Animate dead + kederekt leviathan.


Better yet: Animate Dead + Kederekt Leviathan + Treacherous Urge. It's a bit difficult to pull off but it solves the problem of enormous fatties that you can't target/are indestructible quite well.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by rockondon:
I just thought of a funny way to annoy people in EDH. Animate dead + kederekt leviathan.


You can kinda do the same thing with clones.

It costs more mana. Therefore, much more tolerable and less target-inducing.

 
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/MTG-Japanese-Foil-Mental-Misstep-x4-Signed-Altered-NPH-/260843441932?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cbb7b0f0c

I am getting to old for this...signed foil uncommon playset in Japanese for $825...That's just bonkers.

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quote:
Originally posted by Markers:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/MTG-Japanese- Foil-Mental-Misstep-x4-Signed-Altered-NPH-/260843441932?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cbb7b0f0c

I am getting to old for this...signed foil uncommon playset in Japanese for $825...That's just bonkers.


but those alterations are sooooooo good...

 
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What is the cheapest competitive deck in Standard now?
 
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quote:
Originally posted by wayne:
What is the cheapest competitive deck in Standard now?

2nd deck down (the mono-red one)

http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/eventcoverage/gpp it11/welcome#0

though the UR twin deck matt nass played looks fairly cheap too.
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I am so tired from the GP and have so many cards to upload
 
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quote:
Originally posted by wayne:
What is the cheapest competitive deck in Standard now?

Goblins won finnish champs 1 or 2 weeks ago

 
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Originally posted by stu55:
I am so tired from the GP and have so many cards to upload

Will you be at PT Philly?

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quote:
Originally posted by thror:
http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/eventcoverage/ gpp it11/welcome#0

Chapin looks like a cracked out dickhead. I hope he's a nice guy irl.

I built the Ajani vs Bolas duel decks for S&Gs tonight. I'm only missing two cards, I bet Stu knows what they are.

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