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iccarus
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quote:
Originally posted by Bagbokk:
Copy paste into apathyhouse trade evaluator, I think.

It can give you a rough idea. However, AH seems to be off lately. Especially when it comes to cards for modern.

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quote:
Originally posted by Bagbokk:
Copy paste into apathyhouse trade evaluator, I think.

You would either need a small collection or a lot of time for that, with the 40 card limit.

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quote:
Originally posted by iccarus:
It can give you a rough idea. However, AH seems to be off lately. Especially when it comes to cards for modern.


Unfortunately, any price guide that takes prices off of the last X weeks/months of eBay (or something similar) will be off when prices go way up or down in a short period of time... but it's still the quickest way to get a rough evaluation.

At least you can get a good evaluation of the collection as a whole and then make adjustments for Modern stuff as needed.

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You would either need a small collection or a lot of time for that, with the 40 card limit.

Yeah--I couldn't think of anything better though, and it's still 80x (40 card limit on each side? I've only ever used the 10 on each side) faster than looking up cards individually.

[Edited 2 times, lastly by Bagbokk on September 02, 2011]

 
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quote:
Originally posted by farsk8dutch:
I pulled some alpha cards out of penny sleeves today that had not been touched for a few years and there was the opposite effect, the sleeves are foggy. For foils though it may be that there is some form of acid/PVC, if the company producing them is putting out low quality the sleeves could be affecting them. In most cases constant shuffling, moisture, and friction is enough to put the foil layer in a state where it would become less resilient to deterioration. There's definitely other factors involved in causing this other than the general aging of the product.


Those is what i'm worried about. I've done some trades for some older foils and they almsot always come fogged. And i pulled out a foil StP i've had in a binder in a sleeve and its fogged too. Have had it so long, but i'm pretty sure it wasn't fogged when i was put in there. COuld it e sleeve damaging them?

 
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What's up, PT-Combo?

EDIT: Also, what the hell? Why do people constantly not use tracking on $100+ deals that are within the US? Come on people! It's just as much about protecting yourself as it is your buyer.

EDIT: Ah yes, 0 ref new member. I'm guessing they were sent in a PWE wedged between two toploaders. *sigh*
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[Edited 2 times, lastly by iccarus on September 02, 2011]

 
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quote:
Originally posted by iccarus:
What's up, PT-Combo?


Wow, only 2 gifts and 5 junk/rock decks.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by Absurd90:
Wow, only 2 gifts and 5 junk/rock decks.

I have a feeling non-combo gifts decks will require a metagame to actually be established before they can be tuned. I imagine running something like that is much harder when there's so much potential for variance in the field.

A little shocked by the lack of junk decks though. It seems to have all the tools needed to disrupt and lay the beats.

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This is the first event. Even though they're "professional" mtg players, they still only had 2-3 weeks to prepare for a new format.

Looking at the format though, I don't see how having counter-top would be bad for the format? It already has a natural predator in huge mana decks (aka the most heavily played archtype).

 
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quote:
Originally posted by hilikuS:
I think it's awesome. One of the reasons why I didn't deal with some of them is because you had to do it on their terms if you worked through the site. Now they're coming to me (as a seller), and working on general MOTL terms. It's just cool that I don't even have to do anything different, and am able to sell to them.


Yeah, I agree it's great to let them do the footwork.

Though I did just sell to Channel Fireball through MOTL and had to go by their rules: everything had to be NM/M and I had to send first to a 0 ref member. But I knew I could trust them 100%, assuming they were who they said they were.

I know Conan has been a big buyer here for awhile, but apparently he doesn't respond to PMs or emails like, at all.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by choco man:

Looking at the format though, I don't see how having counter-top would be bad for the format? It already has a natural predator in huge mana decks (aka the most heavily played archtype).

I'd assume top was banned not because of counter top, but because of time constraints of a tournament. Also, the format is supposed to be different from legacy and standard so giving it a viable legacy archetype isn't the greatest idea.

 
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Anyone else think Modern Burn could be good? Zoo decks start at 15-17 basically, and combo decks that rely on creatures just roll over to the burn (Flame Javelin, Bolt, Punishing Fires, etc).
 
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quote:
Originally posted by caquaa:
I'd assume top was banned not because of counter top, but because of time constraints of a tournament. Also, the format is supposed to be different from legacy and standard so giving it a viable legacy archetype isn't the greatest idea.

Its likely a little from both. It sucks when you lose game one and game 2 a player just legally stalls sometimes to win.

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With the way they are making the same planeswalker in different version, they really should change the planeswalker rule so that if another planeswalker of the same name comes into play under your control, you should get to decide which one to keep. It kinda sucks that if you have a garruk wildspeaker out and an M12 garruk, you gotta wait for the wildspeaker to slowly die before you can play the M12 one. Or that if you draw redundant garruks of different version.

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What does everyone think about this?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/250883052612?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

 
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quote:
Originally posted by Ihateworking:
What does everyone think about this?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/250883052612?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649



Well, the seller doesn't appear to have sold Magic cards before. That's a real ton of cards... They appear fairly well organized (by edition), so that's a start. It might be profitable to break up, since they're pretty old on the whole and you can probably find buyers for them if you have the time to spare. I guess the real question is whether there are any duals in there at all. Since there are so many cards, I'd be inclined to believe that it's mostly bulk commons/uncommons and that the rares were sold off beforehand. On the other hand...

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quote:
Originally posted by Ihateworking:
What does everyone think about this?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/250883052612?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649


There's two of those lots.

I don't know really. IF the LEA/LEB boxes contain all alpha/beta cards, that lot is probably worth at least $2500 no matter what is in them, because that would be like 10k alpha/beta bulk--up to $5-10k JUST in bulk if it's mixed with rares/uncommons. Anything of value on top of that is gravy. So it has a shot of being worth infinite amounts of money from P9/duals/etc, Workshops/Bazaars/LoAs etc. (lot 1; lot 2 doesn't have an AN/AQ box) but it's worth at least the $1,025 bid that's on it currently.

Of course, if the LEA/LEB boxes didn't contain any alpha/beta other than what he pulled out, the lot is probably worth no more than $200.

It's just a gamble. If I had the extra money, I would gamble up to $2,500 on it (thus, hoping that the LEA/LEB boxes are what they say they are, but not hoping for any duals, P9, or other good things).

[Edited 2 times, lastly by Bagbokk on September 03, 2011]

 
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Pretty

I'll wait for them to settle in price though.

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I would gamble on it too BagBokk, I have a few hundred to gamble with but not several thousand. I also knew there were two lots.

I think hes being legit and the boxes are as labeled. However I think best case scenario here is that this is someone's ''bulk'' from like 15 years ago and the lot still has things like Time Vault and Bazaars stuffed in there.

I am dying to see whats in that collection and I wish I knew who won and that they would save me the Alpha Weaknesses.

[Edited 1 times, lastly by Ihateworking on September 03, 2011]

 
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quote:
Originally posted by iccarus:

I'll wait for them to settle in price though.


I've been waiting and waiting for them to come out since they were spoiled but I knew their price would be through the roof. I'm not sure the price will settle on these. What sucks is I just picked up a foil doubling season a few days ago ><

 
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quote:
Originally posted by Ihateworking:
What does everyone think about this?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/250883052612?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649


If I were based in the states I would be willing to take a gamble on both lots. Auction seems legit, seller has no prior experience with MTG. I'm definitely interested to hear what is in the boxes, though.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by Ihateworking:
I would gamble on it too BagBokk, I have a few hundred to gamble with but not several thousand. I also knew there were two lots.

I think hes being legit and the boxes are as labeled. However I think best case scenario here is that this is someone's ''bulk'' from like 15 years ago and the lot still has things like Time Vault and Bazaars stuffed in there.

I am dying to see whats in that collection and I wish I knew who won and that they would save me the Alpha Weaknesses.


Yeah--I think the seller is legit, and I don't have much reason to doubt that the boxes aren't as labeled--it's just a risk concern. I want to see how much it ends for, and then just forget about it. I think the chances of losing is honestly so low (unless you bid too high) that I'm actually really sad I don't have the money to bid on it.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by Ihateworking:
What does everyone think about this?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/250883052612?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649


I would ask to inspect it first. It could very easily be 4th ed commons or some junk.

 
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http://www.channelfireball.com/articles/traderous-instinct-go-down-gambling/

I'm not sure if you guys read this article above, but this auction looks pretty much like "I followed the steps that this guy said would fool him so I can sell 500 of beta commons for 2000$+"

Its got "deckmaster" in it. Its got set "labels" on the boxes. Its using an account with no prior mtg selling experience.

People who do storage auctions often look up what they find in their storage units. They dont just buy storage units and throw away everything that they don't recognize.

EDIT: OMG ITS EVEN THE SAME SELLER! LOL
EDIT2: Nath'ed

[Edited 3 times, lastly by Teferi Planeswalker on September 03, 2011]

 
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Originally posted by Teferi Planeswalker:
http://www.channelfireball.com/articles/traderous-instinct-go-down-gambling/

I'm not sure if you guys read this article above, but this auction looks pretty much like "I followed the steps that this guy said would fool him so I can sell 500 of beta commons for 2000$+"

Its got "deckmaster" in it. Its got set "labels" on the boxes. Its using an account with no prior mtg selling experience.

People who do storage auctions often look up what they find in their storage units. They dont just buy storage units and throw away everything that they don't recognize.


its the same seller the guy has listed in that article. I only skimmed it, but this sounds like its going to end fairly badly.

 

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