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Goaswerfraiejen
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posted August 30, 2011 09:47 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for Goaswerfraiejen Click Here to Email Goaswerfraiejen Send a private message to Goaswerfraiejen Click to send Goaswerfraiejen an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by SageShadows:
Yeah, I've been working as a part time tutor and I realized that I probably spent 700 dollars of my pay this summer switching from Merfolk to UW Stoneblade. And that's considering the fact that Folk already have Wastelands, Forces, Mutavaults, and Mental Missteps...


To be fair, an important chunk of that extra cost must have come from Jace, the Mind Sculptor.

It's quite sad, really. I have a few Legacy decks, all worth several hundred or more (my NO BUG list hits $1600 or so). I acquired most of the cards years and years ago, so my actual costs were quite low. Unfortunately, not everyone was so lucky, and these costs present a serious barrier to their entry in the format. If my memory serves, the price situation in Legacy today is fairly comparable to Vintage when I joined this site ten years ago. And Vintage seemed waaaay too expensive to me way back then.

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[Edited 1 times, lastly by Goaswerfraiejen on August 30, 2011]

 
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quote:
Originally posted by gcowhsu:
To be honest I don't think young people can play magic anymore. If you meet a serious magic player you know they have money. I just realized last week that my Team America deck is wroth nearly $1600+ and my Maverick deck is around 600 bucks with no Cradle and nothing pimped out in either. All normal english non foils.

Though I just bought a Foil Progenitus on Ebay so I will have one pimped card in my GW/Maverick deck soon.


It depends on how young you're looking at. Most <18 is basically going to rely on parents or some alternate source of funding anyway (I guess you could start working at 16 or something). Anyone 18+ can put together a $1000+ deck to play with, though it might take some time. They just can't put together MULTIPLE $1000 decks, but that doesn't preclude them from playing and being competitive. This also seems to be focusing on Vintage/Legacy. Not that Modern or Standard is particularly cheap, but I think they're much cheaper than those.

[Edited 1 times, lastly by Bagbokk on August 30, 2011]

 
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quote:
Originally posted by gcowhsu:
Though I just bought a Foil Progenitus on Ebay so I will have one pimped card in my GW/Maverick deck soon.

Probably isn't a good idea to run one foil in a deck and it happens to be a one-of that you never want to draw.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by Goaswerfraiejen:

To be fair, an important chunk of that extra cost must have come from Jace, the Mind Sculptor.

It's quite sad, really. I have a few Legacy decks, all worth several hundred or more (my NO BUG list hits $1600 or so). I acquired most of the cards years and years ago, so my actual costs were quite low. Unfortunately, not everyone was so lucky, and these costs present a serious barrier to their entry in the format. If my memory serves, the price situation in Legacy today is fairly comparable to Vintage when I joined this site ten years ago. And Vintage seemed waaaay too expensive to me way back then.


Just 160. The Tundras and fetches on the other hand...
And I'm thankful as hell that I play tribal wizards casually and I just HAPPENED to have 3 Cliques lying around.

At any rate, it's doable to make a deck, but it's hard. I only justified the splurging of money because I have a nearly full ride. I don't think many other college students are as fortunate as I am.

quote:
Originally posted by gcowhsu:
well the question is did you buy clique before or after cause that's like 100 dollars right there if you run 3. Same with jace/SFM before or after ban?

Lucky on all 3 counts. Had Cliques before (got them for what, 21 dollars total). Bought SFM and Jace after banning, so that's roughly 30 and 160.


[Edited 1 times, lastly by SageShadows on August 30, 2011]

 
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quote:
Originally posted by SageShadows:
Just 160. The Tundras and fetches on the other hand...
And I'm thankful as hell that I play tribal wizards casually and I just HAPPENED to have 3 Cliques lying around.

At any rate, it's doable to make a deck, but it's hard. I only justified the splurging of money because I have a nearly full ride. I don't think many other college students are as fortunate as I am.


Oops, I forgot about duals and fetches. Doh!

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Hey guys! I just started my own blog which is mostly about MTG! I'd love to get a few opinions on it, even though there's only 1 "article" so far, lol.

Don't Train My Orgg!

Any comments would be appreciated and cheers!

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quote:
Originally posted by sammyt125:
Probably isn't a good idea to run one foil in a deck and it happens to be a one-of that you never want to draw.

Why does it curve?

 
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quote:
Originally posted by gcowhsu:
Why does it curve?

People can accuse you of cheating. Since a foil is supposed to thicker than a normal card, some people can tell it apart from other cards in the deck and do certain not to draw it.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by SageShadows:
Yeah, I've been working as a part time tutor and I realized that I probably spent 700 dollars of my pay this summer switching from Merfolk to UW Stoneblade. And that's considering the fact that Folk already have Wastelands, Forces, Mutavaults, and Mental Missteps...

I did the same thing this summer. Luckly I already had the Tundras/wastelands/forces. I got the Jace's for some old pimp cards and a couple of alters. And I picked up the stoneforge after the bannings and the cliques like a week before modern caused the price jump.

I really do need to sit down and figure out my 15 card sideboard though.

 
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Starting to get random emails from non-motl members wanting to trade.

I'm pretty sure they are scammers.

also where would be a good place to get a good estimate on a price for a case of the set coming out. A friend is looking to get a case for this set so we are looking at prices locally and will compare. I'd need Canadian sites but with the dollar similar American ones will do (Star City was $4 cheaper than one Canadian site so far)

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quote:
Originally posted by WeedIan:
also where would be a good place to get a good estimate on a price for a case of the set coming out. A friend is looking to get a case for this set so we are looking at prices locally and will compare. I'd need Canadian sites but with the dollar similar American ones will do (Star City was $4 cheaper than one Canadian site so far)


I've had good experiences buying cases from The Card Kid. http://www.thecardkid.com


 
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So I made a few trades in the last day or two and just realized I am out of toploaders and there is no where in town to buy them. Any suggestions on how I should package these until i get some more?
 
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You can sandwich them between cardboard and tape it together nice and tight.
 
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Originally posted by mattw:So I made a few trades in the last day or two and just realized I am out of toploaders and there is no where in town to buy them. Any suggestions on how I should package these until i get some more?
Try 3 x 5 index cards taped togeather. and their fairly cheap. even local grocery stores has them. the more u use, the better the protection.

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quote:
Originally posted by mattw:
So I made a few trades in the last day or two and just realized I am out of toploaders and there is no where in town to buy them. Any suggestions on how I should package these until i get some more?

the obvious answer is start buying random cards that you want off ebay in hopes they'll get mailed in a toploader!

Is it bad that I bought one pack of toploaders years and years ago and still have some? Its not because I don't ship anything out, its because I reuse toploaders that get sent to me so most of my transactions have been me getting cards. TO top that off I throw away about half the toploaders I get because they're dirty or sticky from tape. Thankfully I've been in a selling sort of mood recently.

 
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Where is rulings thread 49?

1) Im wondering if I can remove Batterskull token with Lightning Bolt before it gets +4/+4?

2) Lets say im attacking with Tarmogoyf and my opponent activates Stoneforge and drops Batterskull; do I have chance to remove the Germ with Path to Exile before my opponent can declare it as blocker?



[Edited 1 times, lastly by Absurd90 on August 31, 2011]

 
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quote:
Originally posted by Absurd90:
Where is rulings thread 49?

1) Im wondering if I can remove Batterskull token with Lightning Bolt before it gets +4/+4?

2) Lets say im attacking with Tarmogoyf and my opponent activates Stoneforge and drops Batterskull; do I have chance to remove the Germ with Path to Exile before my opponent can declare it as blocker?


1) No
2) Yes

 
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quote:
Originally posted by Absurd90:
Where is rulings thread 49?


http://classic.magictraders.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/025032-5.html

change the date range on the topics you're viewing.

edit #1: also, when is states this year? or is it actually canceled now? The place that usually runs it around here doesn't have anything up for their events.

edit#2: Also when rotation happens duress and inquisition leave and we're left w/ despise and distress in standard? Black seems screwed. Here's hoping duress is in innistrad.

[Edited 2 times, lastly by caquaa on August 31, 2011]

 
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Can someone explain to me why Zhang-Fei is worth so much?? Just bought one to complete my collection and didn't give two thoughts as to what it actually did but now that I've read it I'm a bit underwhelmed. It seems much worse than Guan-Yu who seems to be worth less?
 
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Posted another blog entry or two.

Probably nothing new to us savvy MOTLer's, but my local player base appreciates it so far .

http://donttrainmyorgg.blogspot.com/

As always, comments would be appreciated as I'm new to writing blogs, but think I'm getting the hang of it... just need to stay motivated! lol

Cheers,
Carl

 
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quote:
Originally posted by caquaa:
when is states this year? or is it actually canceled now? The place that usually runs it around here doesn't have anything up for their events.

November. I'd assume.

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quote:
Originally posted by caquaa:
http://classic.magictraders.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/025032-5.html

change the date range on the topics you're viewing.

edit #1: also, when is states this year? or is it actually canceled now? The place that usually runs it around here doesn't have anything up for their events.

edit#2: Also when rotation happens duress and inquisition leave and we're left w/ despise and distress in standard? Black seems screwed. Here's hoping duress is in innistrad.



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quote:
Originally posted by caquaa:
Also, when is States this year?

October 15th.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by psilence6k:
Posted another blog entry or two.

Probably nothing new to us savvy MOTLer's, but my local player base appreciates it so far .

http://donttrainmyorgg.blogspot.com/

As always, comments would be appreciated as I'm new to writing blogs, but think I'm getting the hang of it... just need to stay motivated! lol

Cheers,
Carl


Are you going to make a pitch post every time you update your blog?

 
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