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mattw
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posted August 19, 2011 05:44 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for mattw Click Here to Email mattw Send a private message to mattw Click to send mattw an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote View mattw's Have/Want ListView mattw's Have/Want List
If I Oath (of druids) through a gaea's blessing into an eternal witness do i have a graveyard left to grab something with the witness?
 
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So Oath has you reveal until you hit a creature. Then you put it into play and put all the revealed cards into the graveyard.

As I understand it, you'd reveal until you hit the witness. It goes into play and at the same time the cards go to the graveyard, and both triggers (Witness comes into play, blessing goes into graveyard) want to go off at once. Active player goes "Stack Blessing, Stack Witness" and then you get one card back, and then shuffle the graveyard in.

[Edited 2 times, lastly by Devonin on August 19, 2011]

 
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quote:
Originally posted by mattw:
If I Oath (of druids) through a gaea's blessing into an eternal witness do i have a graveyard left to grab something with the witness?

You control both triggers, so you decide how they stack.

[Edited 1 times, lastly by Meddling Pimp on August 19, 2011]

 
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If I control a Sacred Ground and choose to sacrifice lands to an annihilator trigger (such as Emrakul), will I get the lands back?

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quote:
Originally posted by iccarus:
If I control a Sacred Ground and choose to sacrifice lands to an annihilator trigger (such as Emrakul), will I get the lands back?


Long story
http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/27198293/Sacred_Ground__Annihilator

Short story - Yes you will - effect opponent controls.

702.83a Annihilator is a triggered ability. "Annihilator N" means "Whenever this creature attacks, defending player sacrifices N permanents."

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[Edited 4 times, lastly by Kyosukee on September 06, 2011]

 
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is it possible to use manamorphose, spend the mana from it to cast something, and then draw a card *after* that other spell resolves?

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quote:
Originally posted by Bugger:
is it possible to use manamorphose, spend the mana from it to cast something, and then draw a card *after* that other spell resolves?


No. Adding the mana and drawing the card all happens within the resolution of Manamorphose.

[Edited 1 times, lastly by Meddling Pimp on September 08, 2011]

 
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quote:
Originally posted by Bugger:
is it possible to use manamorphose, spend the mana from it to cast something, and then draw a card *after* that other spell resolves?

No. You can't start to resolve a spell or ability, stop to do other things, then come back and finish resolving the spell or ability later. The spell or ability resolves in its entirety.
 
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is it possible to cast manamorphose, spend the mana from its effect to cast a spell (going with random gatherer search let's say Peregrine Drake), and then draw a card after the Drake resolves?

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quote:
Originally posted by Bugger:
is it possible to cast manamorphose, spend the mana from its effect to cast a spell (going with random gatherer search let's say Peregrine Drake), and then draw a card after the Drake resolves?


No. A spell resolves completely before you can cast anything else. You would get the mana, draw a card, then be able to use the mana in your pool.

 
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I attack with a Glisner Elf and I pump it up with Vines of Vastwood Kicked, and my opponent plays Beast Within, what happens, the Vines state that it can't be the target of spells or ablilities but if you resolve the stack the beast goes off first.
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quote:
Originally posted by msmike2:
I attack with a Glisner Elf and I pump it up with Vines of Vastwood Kicked, and my opponent plays Beast Within, what happens, the Vines state that it can't be the target of spells or ablilities but if you resolve the stack the beast goes off first.
Thanks,
Mike

The creature would get Beasted. Generally you want to wait with your Vines until AFTER the creature get targeted.

 
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Edit: Eh Semantics. Your statement as asked was a little vague, but it's pretty clear what happened.

[Edited 1 times, lastly by Devonin on September 10, 2011]
 
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When you play Phantasmal Image and copy an animated man-land, does it become a land EOT?
 
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quote:
Originally posted by choco man:
When you play Phantasmal Image and copy an animated man-land, does it become a land EOT?

It becomes a land right then and there. A copy only copys printed values, so if you copy an animated mutavault, you get an UN-animated mutavault.

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If I add a counter on smokestacks at the beginning of my upkeep do I have to sacrifice a permanent?
 
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Originally posted by Heresy19:
If I add a counter on smokestacks at the beginning of my upkeep do I have to sacrifice a permanent?

Smokestack has 2 different triggers. At the beginning of your upkeep, you stack them however you want. As long as you put the 'add a counter' on the stack first, and then the 'sac a permanent' above it, you will sac zero and then add a counter. Or you can do it the other way if you want, and the outcome will be reversed.

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was wondering if Progenitus would drop either greaves or an enchantment if sudden spoiling was played and he became a 0/2 do nothing?
 
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quote:
Originally posted by denholm:
was wondering if Progenitus would drop either greaves or an enchantment if sudden spoiling was played and he became a 0/2 do nothing?

I assume you mean if you put equipment or enchantments on him after the Sudden Spoiling, would they fall off at the end of the turn when it returns to normal?

If so, then yes, protection will cause anything equipped to or enchanting it to be unequipped or destroyed respectively.

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For equipment if it is equiped to a creature, I try to move it onto another creature and in response my opponent kills the creature getting the equipment where does the equipment end up?
 
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quote:
Originally posted by oneofchaos:
For equipment if it is equiped to a creature, I try to move it onto another creature and in response my opponent kills the creature getting the equipment where does the equipment end up?

I have no idea why I said that.

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quote:
Originally posted by JoshSherman:
It will be unequipped.


No it will not be. If the equip ability fails (is stifled or is countered because of an illegal target) the equipment doesnt just fall off the original creature. It stays right where it was.

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quote:
Originally posted by thror:
No it will not be. If the equip ability fails (is stifled or is countered because of an illegal target) the equipment doesnt just fall off the original creature. It stays right where it was.


I'll second this for confirmation. This is correct.

 
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Ugh, copy effect. So, a couple Phyrexian Metamorph questions...

1) If a Phyrexian Metamorph that is a copy of a Wurmcoil Engine dies, does it spit out the 2 Wurm tokens?

2) In the same vein, if I cast a Metamorph copying my opponents Emrakul does it get shuffled into my library?

3) If I cast Metamorph copying a Batterskull does it create the Germ Token and equip itself or is it just a standalone Equipment?

Also, I'm pretty sure I know this one but I want to double check. That Metamorph that copied the Batterskull also gets that "3: Return Batterskull to it's owner's hand." ability so I can bounce the Metamorph back to my hand if I want to, right?

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quote:
Originally posted by CubFan81:
Ugh, copy effect. So, a couple Phyrexian Metamorph questions...

1) If a Phyrexian Metamorph that is a copy of a Wurmcoil Engine dies, does it spit out the 2 Wurm tokens?


Yes. This is a zone change trigger. It sees itself transitioning zones and triggers.


quote:
2) In the same vein, if I cast a Metamorph copying my opponents Emrakul does it get shuffled into my library?

No. Emrakul's ability happens when it actually hits the graveyard, so at that point it's just a metamorph again.


quote:
3) If I cast Metamorph copying a Batterskull does it create the Germ Token and equip itself or is it just a standalone Equipment?

Yes. Living Weapon triggers when it enters the battlefield.


quote:
Also, I'm pretty sure I know this one but I want to double check. That Metamorph that copied the Batterskull also gets that "3: Return Batterskull to it's owner's hand." ability so I can bounce the Metamorph back to my hand if I want to, right?

Yes. It gets all attributes of Batterskull, including the abilities.


[Edited 2 times, lastly by Meddling Pimp on September 14, 2011]

 

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