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Topic: Rulings and Questions: Part 49
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revenger
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posted October 10, 2011 08:49 PM
        
I cast Shared Trauma. then pay 5. opponent pays 3. i say he mills 5 from his library, i mget milled 3. opponent says we both get milled 8. how does it play out?__________________
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Tha Gunslinga
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posted October 10, 2011 08:53 PM
 
Did you read the card? Because it answers this for you.__________________
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LemonMeringue
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posted October 10, 2011 09:39 PM
Join forces — Starting with you, each player may pay any amount of mana. Each player puts the top X cards of his or her library into his or her graveyard, where X is the total amount of mana paid this way.> where X is the total amount of mana paid this way. Edit: To be clear, the total of 5 + 3 is 8. Each player mills 8.
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dfitzg88
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posted October 10, 2011 10:25 PM
If I use Garruk Relentless' ability to target Phantasmal Image, copying a Sun Titan (just to force my opponent to sacrifice it), what amount of damage will the Phantasmal Image asign to Garruk?I would love to be able to just auto-kill Images with Garruk Relentless from now on 
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revenger
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posted October 10, 2011 10:33 PM
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Originally posted by LemonMeringue: > where X is the total amount of mana paid this way. Edit: To be clear, the total of 5 + 3 is 8. Each player mills 8.
i read to much into it. dissected it when i didnt need to. he even said "total amount of mana". lol. well, i won the game, milled his deck. Next game, he paid 0 mana on it, i paid 6. lesson learned. __________________
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caquaa
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posted October 10, 2011 10:33 PM
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Originally posted by dfitzg88:
If I use Garruk Relentless' ability to target Phantasmal Image, copying a Sun Titan (just to force my opponent to sacrifice it), what amount of damage will the Phantasmal Image asign to Garruk?I would love to be able to just auto-kill Images with Garruk Relentless from now on
It is a targeted ability so it will never resolve. You target the image, image kills itself, ability no longer has a legal target.
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DeMoNiC DuNcE
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posted October 11, 2011 12:20 PM
If I block a Blightsteel Colossus with my Viridian Emissary, and during blocking step, cast Altar's Reap, sacrificing my Viridian Emissary. Does the Emissary still count as a blocking creature? Or am I destined for 11 poison counters?
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AlmostGrown
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posted October 11, 2011 12:22 PM
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Originally posted by DeMoNiC DuNcE:
If I block a Blightsteel Colossus with my Viridian Emissary, and during blocking step, cast Altar's Reap, sacrificing my Viridian Emissary. Does the Emissary still count as a blocking creature? Or am I destined for 11 poison counters?
The Colossus is still blocked, but there is 0 toughness blocking it so you take 11 poison counters.
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DConNexus
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posted October 11, 2011 03:51 PM
Mirror-Mad Phantasm and Necrotic Ooze. If Phantasm is in the graveyard, can Ooze tap 1U to shuffle in Phantasm?
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Devonin
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posted October 12, 2011 06:40 AM
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If an activated ability of a card in a graveyard references the card it's printed on by name, treat Necrotic Ooze's version of that ability as though it referenced Necrotic Ooze by name instead. For example, if Cudgel Troll (which says "{G}: Regenerate Cudgel Troll") is in a graveyard, Necrotic Ooze has the ability "{G}: Regenerate Necrotic Ooze."
You could pay 1U to shuffle the Ooze in
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LemonMeringue
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posted October 12, 2011 07:12 AM
For clarification, if you shuffle a Necrotic Ooze into your graveyard using Mirror-mad Phantasm's ability, you still mill until you find a card named Mirror-mad Phantasm. You DON'T mill for Necrotic Ooze.Edit: This is because there's a difference between a card referring to itself and a card referring to "a card named..."
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iccarus
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posted October 12, 2011 02:29 PM
My opponent activates Tree of Redemption. In response I cast Twisted Image. Assuming the tree was still an 0/13, what happens?__________________
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sammyt125
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posted October 12, 2011 02:36 PM
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Originally posted by iccarus:
My opponent activates Tree of Redemption. In response I cast Twisted Image. Assuming the tree was still an 0/13, what happens?
Death. The last known info of the tree will be a 13/0, so when the ability resolves it will set the opponents life to 0.
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caquaa
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posted October 12, 2011 03:53 PM
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Originally posted by iccarus:
My opponent activates Tree of Redemption. In response I cast Twisted Image. Assuming the tree was still an 0/13, what happens?
directly from the FAQ:
If Tree of Redemption isn't on the battlefield when the ability resolves, the exchange can't happen and the ability will have no effect. http://www.wizards.com/magic/magazine/article.aspx?x=mtg/faq/isd its an exchange effect so both things have the be able to be exchanged or it doesn't happen. It would have to read something along the lines of "your life total becomes tree of redemption's toughness" then it would kill the person w/ the tree.
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Skwirlnutz
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posted October 12, 2011 05:51 PM
So if I use prey upon targeting glissa and an inferno Titan will the inferno titan die because of glissa's deathtouch?
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Devonin
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posted October 12, 2011 07:15 PM
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Originally posted by Skwirlnutz:
So if I use prey upon targeting glissa and an inferno Titan will the inferno titan die because of glissa's deathtouch?
The creatures deal the damage. So creatures with Deathtouch, Wither, Infect, etc, will have their modifiers to damage function as normal.
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Skwirlnutz
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posted October 12, 2011 07:43 PM
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Originally posted by Devonin:
The creatures deal the damage. So creatures with Deathtouch, Wither, Infect, etc, will have their modifiers to damage function as normal.
So yes or no? I gotta show someone this.
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JoshSherman
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posted October 12, 2011 11:19 PM
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Originally posted by Skwirlnutz:
So yes or no? I gotta show someone this.
While I was a little surprised that the word "yes" was not used in the answer, I'm more confused that it wasn't obvious to you. Yes, the Inferno Titan will die. __________________
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ryan2754
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posted October 12, 2011 11:28 PM
If I have a Crusade and Angelic Chorus in play, and I play a 1/1, do I gain 1 or 2 life?
If I have a Coat of Arms in play, and 3 Human Rebel type creatures in play, do they each get +2/+2 or +4/+4?
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dfitzg88
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posted October 12, 2011 11:36 PM
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Originally posted by ryan2754:
If I have a Crusade and Angelic Chorus in play, and I play a 1/1, do I gain 1 or 2 life?
if it's white, 2. if it's not, 1. quote:
Originally posted by ryan2754:
If I have a Coat of Arms in play, and 3 Human Rebel type creatures in play, do they each get +2/+2 or +4/+4?
+2/+2. it only counts creatures, not types.
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Skwirlnutz
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posted October 12, 2011 11:40 PM
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Originally posted by JoshSherman:
While I was a little surprised that the word "yes" was not used in the answer, I'm more confused that it wasn't obvious to you. Yes, the Inferno Titan will die.
Yes Josh I know, if you where in my position you would understand why I asked for a "simple" yes or no answer, sorry to confuse you! Thanks again. 
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ryan2754
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posted October 13, 2011 05:32 PM
I see, didn't realize the 'at least one creature type' thing.
So if I have a Human Soldier, Human Rebel, and Rebel Zombie (hypothetical)
How does that work, since they all share at least one but the one they share is different? __________________
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Jazaray
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posted October 13, 2011 05:42 PM
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Originally posted by ryan2754:
I see, didn't realize the 'at least one creature type' thing.
So if I have a Human Soldier, Human Rebel, and Rebel Zombie (hypothetical)
How does that work, since they all share at least one but the one they share is different?
I'm trying to get back into judging, let me see if I can get this right. They'd all get +1, right? Edit: Ok, wait, I'm second guessing myself now. The Human Solider and Rebel Zombie would get +1 and the Human Rebel would get +2? Thanks,
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LemonMeringue
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posted October 13, 2011 08:27 PM
Yes, the Human Soldier and Rebel Zombie would each get +1/+1 and the Human Rebel would get +2/+2
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ryan2754
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posted October 13, 2011 09:02 PM
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Originally posted by LemonMeringue:
Yes, the Human Soldier and Rebel Zombie would each get +1/+1 and the Human Rebel would get +2/+2
So just to get the complex interactions going.... Coat of Arms in Play. Creatures in play on my side (all 1/1s for simplicity sake):
2 Human Clerics, 3 Human Rebels, 2 Human Soldiers, 1 Bird Soldier, 3 Bird Tokens, 1 Bird Wizard, 2 Human Wizards. Do I just count up each individual instance of the type, subtract 1, and give that bonus to each creature?
So 9 Humans - each human gets +8/+8
2 Clerics - each cleric gets +1/+1
3 Rebels - each rebel gets +2/+2
5 Birds - each bird gets +4/+4
3 Soldiers - +2/+2
3 Wizards - +2/+2 so in all (if started as 1/1s)
Human Clerics 10/10s
Human Rebels 11/11s
Human Soldiers 11/11s
Bird Soldier 7/7
Bird Tokens 5/5s
Bird Wizard 7/7
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