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Topic: Post for Magic Stuff Part 62!
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caquaa
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posted October 27, 2011 12:27 AM
        
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Originally posted by Pringlesman:
I saw a close up of the Liliana on another page. The scrape method produces a uneven surface that looks very unfinished at the end.I don't see why you wouldn't just mask of what you want to keep and acetone the rest. I've done that before. It reduces the thickness ever so slightly and the paint fills in the gap.
If you watch the video you'll see a part where she does the hair. That's something that couldn't be done with acetone or erasing with that amount of detail unless way too much time was taken. It leaves the original background and allows the artist to place in fine details. I guess my concern would be an uneven finish on the card. It was mentioned that markers were primarily used, was that the case? Paint makes more sense because it fills in but markers would leave the texture the same unless its some sort of paint marker.
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Timmyhill
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posted October 27, 2011 03:21 AM
I just tried scraping a card and it turned out pretty good. Its much easier then trying to "prime" the area first to change the color. If your not careful you can dig up the card quite a bit but going back over it with an eraser seemed to smooth it out pretty well. The paint with a good brush can be put on thin enough to fill back in most of the gaps. The only problem I had was my markers seem to all be dry a the same time so I had to use a pen. Its almost done Its just a bit blury didnt feel like dragging the scanner out.
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wayne
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posted October 27, 2011 04:07 AM
What are the odds for opening a foil mythic?
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caquaa
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posted October 27, 2011 04:54 AM
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Originally posted by Timmyhill:
Its almost done Its just a bit blury didnt feel like dragging the scanner out.
now just paint some lycans in the background. That art totally reminds me of Kate Beckinsale in Underworld.
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urza187
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posted October 27, 2011 06:58 AM
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Originally posted by wayne:
What are the odds for opening a foil mythic?
I believe it is 1 a case.
[Edited 1 times, lastly by urza187 on October 27, 2011]
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AlmostGrown
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posted October 27, 2011 02:56 PM
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originally PM'd by a User with 47 Refs
Like I said, it doesn't matter to me this time because I am in no hurry to pick up these cards. However with over 40 refs I have simulsent with most everyone with 25 refs. I would not have done the trade without simul for deck needs.
----- Original Message from AlmostGrown -----
When you reach around 75-100 refs people will be willing to simulsend with you, or you'll be able to have others send first to you. As for me, my personal rule is that after 2 successful trades with a person, I'm always willing to simulsend with them regardless of refs.
----- Original Message from user with 47 refs -----
That's fine. I will mail out tomorrow. I do hope that at some point sending first will not be necessary. Thankfully I am in no rush for these cards. Thanks for the trade.
Where do all these people get off being so uppity? I didn't get the privilege of asking people to send first until I had at lest 70-80 refs, and even then I was still sending first/paying first to people with 100+ refs because that is how the system works. People just do not seem to understand that and want to make up their own weird twists on the rules because they feel entitled. This guy doesn't even have 50 refs and is expecting me, someone with nearly 3x as many refs as he to simulsend. Granted, the trade is worth ~$15 but I earned the right to ask people with (much) lower refs to send first because they simply don't have the "street cred" like I do. (Street cred meaning people who will vouch for you as a good/decent trader.)
[Edited 2 times, lastly by AlmostGrown on October 27, 2011]
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caquaa
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posted October 27, 2011 03:27 PM
Meh. There is a level of comfort once people reach ~50 refs and aren't in the BTA and such. If I actually did trades on here instead of just buying and selling then I'd simul send for such a low value trade. 47 refs shows hes been around a while and holds up his end assuming he hasn't popped up in the BTA. I don't see what the big deal is.
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MeddlingMage
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posted October 27, 2011 03:57 PM
So my current Solar Flare decklist (standard) consists of these creatures ATM.2x Sun Titan
1x Grave Titan
4x Snapcaster Mage
2x Phantasmal Image
1x Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite
1x Wurmcoil Engine I now have a Sheoldred, Whispering One. Should I include it to the current list of creature or remove another creature for it? Or should I just leave the creatures as is? ~MM __________________
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Montague
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posted October 27, 2011 03:59 PM
Yeah, I use my own gut instinct when doing simul sends. I have simul sent with people with 0 refs before.
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caquaa
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posted October 27, 2011 04:05 PM
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Originally posted by MeddlingMage:
So my current Solar Flare decklist (standard) consists of these creatures ATM.2x Sun Titan
1x Grave Titan
4x Snapcaster Mage
2x Phantasmal Image
1x Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite
1x Wurmcoil Engine
from my understanding solar flare has basically turned into U/W control these days. It runs a heavy U/W control base, but runs alchemy and 1x unburial rites and plays some black duals. They're still something like 3x sun titan, 2x image, etc. Being so easily disrupted by GY hate and dissipate makes the deck kinda weak if its focused too much on the graveyard.
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Pringlesman
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posted October 27, 2011 04:26 PM
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Originally posted by caquaa:
If you watch the video you'll see a part where she does the hair. That's something that couldn't be done with acetone or erasing with that amount of detail unless way too much time was taken. It leaves the original background and allows the artist to place in fine details. I guess my concern would be an uneven finish on the card. It was mentioned that markers were primarily used, was that the case? Paint makes more sense because it fills in but markers would leave the texture the same unless its some sort of paint marker.
You use masking tape, cut away what you don't want. It's not that big of a deal.
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AGO
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posted October 27, 2011 07:26 PM
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Originally posted by WeedIan:
Hmm i like that IdeaI think i'll post a rule "I only accept trades in my favor by 10%"
Why not make a points list! Its the same thing.
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wayne
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posted October 27, 2011 08:44 PM
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Originally posted by AGO:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by WeedIan:
Hmm i like that IdeaI think i'll post a rule "I only accept trades in my favor by 10%"
Why not make a points list! Its the same thing.[/QUOTE]
Meh, I'll just make it easy and offer my $1.50 paypal for anyone else's $2 paypal
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stab107
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posted October 27, 2011 08:58 PM
Hey wayne, pm me on that deal  .quote:
Originally posted by AlmostGrown:
Where do all these people get off being so uppity? I didn't get the privilege of asking people to send first until I had at lest 70-80 refs, and even then I was still sending first/paying first to people with 100+ refs because that is how the system works. People just do not seem to understand that and want to make up their own weird twists on the rules because they feel entitled. This guy doesn't even have 50 refs and is expecting me, someone with nearly 3x as many refs as he to simulsend. Granted, the trade is worth ~$15 but I earned the right to ask people with (much) lower refs to send first because they simply don't have the "street cred" like I do. (Street cred meaning people who will vouch for you as a good/decent trader.)
I'm with caquaa here, I really don't see what the big deal is. To me, on trades under $50 it's an easy decision to simul with anyone who has a decent amount of refs. If I were to a trade valued around $25 with you, Almost, would you request that I send first given my track record? I would be surprised if you did, honestly. If I had something crazy like 14 refs that were in the $5-10 range I would understand. Just to add a bit more to the discussion I have actually had several people with refs 2 or even 3 times higher than mine send money to me first when selling. Food for thought, imo.
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thror
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posted October 28, 2011 12:19 AM
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Originally posted by stab107:
Just to add a bit more to the discussion I have actually had several people with refs 2 or even 3 times higher than mine send money to me first when selling. Food for thought, imo.
Buying is different, especially with paypal. I can file a claim and get all my money back if stuff goes wrong. When sending cards, however, the postman wont come to your house and get my cards back. __________________
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Montague
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posted October 28, 2011 03:29 PM
Not exaggerating, I was just playing game 3 of a match on MODO. I kept a solid defensive hand. No creatures in it. 16 creatures in my deck. I died with 20 cards in my library and never drew one single creature. I'm steaming a bit 
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Bagbokk
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posted October 28, 2011 03:47 PM
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I'm with caquaa here, I really don't see what the big deal is. To me, on trades under $50 it's an easy decision to simul with anyone who has a decent amount of refs. If I were to a trade valued around $25 with you, Almost, would you request that I send first given my track record? I would be surprised if you did, honestly. If I had something crazy like 14 refs that were in the $5-10 range I would understand.
Yeah. Refs are a proxy for trustworthiness, nothing more. Just as a random example, I'd 100% trust both Gunslinga and caquaa here, but Gunslinga has what, 10x the refs caquaa has? There is no site rule or even standard practice that says you have to have <insert arbitrary number> refs before people will send first to you (or simul send). The only standard practice is that people with a negligble number of refs shouldn't expect people to send first to them no matter whether it's a trade or sale. Even that isn't really set in stone, though that would be the reality for most people. It's up to each individual person to determine at what threshold they will trust the other person enough to simul in a trade or send first in a sale. It's also okay to just have a rough cut-off at which point you'd simul send with someone, but it doesn't make it wrong for them to ask you to do it. Personal rules are personal rules, and just because yours doesn't match up with your trading partner's doesn't mean they're doing something wrong (or vice versa).
[Edited 1 times, lastly by Bagbokk on October 28, 2011]
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Irate
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posted October 28, 2011 05:40 PM
i'm happy to send first most of the time, have been for years.
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JoshSherman
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posted October 28, 2011 05:41 PM
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Originally posted by Montague:
Not exaggerating, I was just playing game 3 of a match on MODO. I kept a solid defensive hand. No creatures in it. 16 creatures in my deck. I died with 20 cards in my library and never drew one single creature. I'm steaming a bit
Protip: draw moar dudz Seriously, though that sucks __________________
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[Edited 1 times, lastly by JoshSherman on October 28, 2011]
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evilempire22
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posted October 28, 2011 06:59 PM
So....my father-in-law in San Diego called me a couple weeks ago from the swap meet and said he was standing in front of a large box of loose Magic cards and sealed packs. He wanted to know if I wanted them, which I said sure, just let me know how much I owe you for the cards and the shipping.Fast forward to today when my wife texts me at work with the picture of everything spread out on my desk. FIL paid $20 for the cards, and $25 shipping for the following (prepare to have your mind blown, I know I did): Sealed Packs: 02 Stronghold
03 Mercadian Masques
04 4th Edition
03 Mirage
04 Urza's Legacy
04 Urza's Saga
03 Urza's Destiny
04 6th Edition
03 Weatherlight
03 Homelands
03 Fallen Empires
03 Visions
02 Starter
02 Alliances
02 Ice Age
04 Portal
01 Exodus 01 Urza's Legacy pre-con
02 Urza's Sage pre-con
01 Prophecy pre-con
Loose cards:
The following are the noteworthy cards pulled out of first pass through ~4 booster boxes full of cards, 11 starter deck boxes full of cards, and 36 loose booster packs, cards still present: 01 Survival of the Fittest
01 Crystalline Sliver
01 Powder Keg
02 Vampiric Tutor
01 Rain of Daggers
01 Firestorm
01 Gemstone Mine
01 Wall of Blossoms
01 Rishadan Port
02 Grim Monolith
01 Quicksilver Amulet
01 Goblin Lackey
01 Shivan Hellkite
01 Palinchron
04 Tinker
01 Mystical Tutor
01 FOIL Promo Serra Angel (link)
01 Misdirection
01 Time Warp
01 Gilded Drake
01 Yawgmoth's Bargain
01 Grim Tutor
03 Armageddon
01 Enlightened Tutor
01 Radiant, Archangel
01 Karmic Guide
01 FOIL Rancor
01 Deranged Hermit
01 Birds of Paradise
01 Rofellos, Llanowar Emissary Like I said, I almost soiled myself when I realized what exactly I was looking at. I haven't done another pass through all the loose stuff, but there are probably some other good stuff I missed in my haste to take it all in. All the sealed packs are still sealed, and will probably stay sealed for now. I just talked to my FIL and thanked him many times over. He said he wasn't even going to pick them up if he didn't have my SIL there with her cellphone to give me a call and ask if I wanted them. He even talked the guy down from $25 to $20 for the whole mess of cards, unbelievable! This is one of those great scores that you only dream of.
Anyone need any commons from Urza's block? I have a crap load of them. --Evil __________________
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Living is easy with eyes closed, misunderstanding all you see.
[Edited 1 times, lastly by evilempire22 on October 28, 2011]
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stu55
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posted October 28, 2011 08:53 PM
Is it sad that the fact that I proxied on a Dark Confidant isn't the worst thing that has happened to me this week and barely phased me?
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Pringlesman
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posted October 28, 2011 09:45 PM
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Originally posted by stu55:
Is it sad that the fact that I proxied on a Dark Confidant isn't the worst thing that has happened to me this week and barely phased me?
On the backside of one? If so someone could probably use paint to fix that.
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caquaa
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posted October 29, 2011 01:12 AM
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Originally posted by stu55:
Is it sad that the fact that I proxied on a Dark Confidant isn't the worst thing that has happened to me this week and barely phased me?
try acetone to remove the sharpie? If its magic related, what is the other thing thats worse? Either way, that dark confidant still has value, which is kinda funny.
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wayne
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posted October 29, 2011 07:56 AM
SOM sealed DEs are so hard to come by 
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Mr.C
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posted October 29, 2011 10:36 AM
@evilempire22: Great find! If you're going to sell that, make sure you give them a finder's fee
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