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Topic: Post for Magic Stuff Part 62!
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JoshSherman Member
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posted October 20, 2011 01:45 PM
quote: Originally posted by dfitzg88: losing to a girl i'm not attracted to is like losing to a guy. it's not as soul-piercing as losing to a cute girl.
I can't comprehend how ridiculous you're being. __________________ *Joshweek*Letter Bombs!*Facebook Me* *Logout- I had it first (second)!*
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caquaa Member
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posted October 20, 2011 01:47 PM
quote: Originally posted by MasterWolf: The whole "I am not responsible" clause has gotten way out of hand on this website.LOL, $6 purchase requires $2.5 in shipping, but if I don't pay I'm "too cheap" and don't deserve protection. People hate responsibility on this site.
Well someone has the be responsible. You're the one opting out of paying for the DC, so I'd ask for you to be responsible as well. I don't believe I've ever had a problem sending a package, but I certainly wouldn't want to start. After you've seen a BTA where someone knows he declined to pay for registered shipping but he also ssays that he didn't state he would take responsibility so he wants a refund, you start requesting the "I'm not responsible" statement from everyone. I don't care how big the deal, how small the deal, or how many times we've dealt, if you deal with me and don't pay for some form of tracking I'll be asking you to absolve me from responsibility on the package.
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dfitzg88 Member
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posted October 20, 2011 01:49 PM
quote: Originally posted by JoshSherman:
I can't comprehend how ridiculous you're being.
i think its a fair statement
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Bugger Member
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posted October 20, 2011 01:53 PM
holy jesus, it's like the cloud of terrible discussion that drifted through the PfS a couple weeks ago and got us all bickering about tipping has finally hit the PfMS.Do not want. __________________ It is a known fact that more Americans watch the television than any other appliance.
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MasterWolf Member
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posted October 20, 2011 01:54 PM
quote: Originally posted by caquaa: Well someone has the be responsible. You're the one opting out of paying for the DC, so I'd ask for you to be responsible as well. I don't believe I've ever had a problem sending a package, but I certainly wouldn't want to start. After you've seen a BTA where someone knows he declined to pay for registered shipping but he also ssays that he didn't state he would take responsibility so he wants a refund, you start requesting the "I'm not responsible" statement from everyone. I don't care how big the deal, how small the deal, or how many times we've dealt, if you deal with me and don't pay for some form of tracking I'll be asking you to absolve me from responsibility on the package.
And I'll probably ask you to eat the Paypal fees so I can be protected. Or is that out of line too because the seller's rights are important but not the buyer's?
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Bagbokk Member
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posted October 20, 2011 02:00 PM
quote: Originally posted by MasterWolf: And I'll probably ask you to eat the Paypal fees so I can be protected. Or is that out of line too because the seller's rights are important but not the buyer's?
Sure, and I guess sellers could just start pricing their stuff with that extra 4% in mind and creating a rule that "you can take 4% off your purchase if you pay by gift paypal instead of goods." I think simply put, some people don't like the default rule set by MOTL, they want to change it and it's fine to do so as long as the buyer agrees to it. If you don't want to agree to it, don't buy from those sellers. If that unduly limits your options of who you can buy from, maybe it's time to re-evaluate. Similarly, if I'm unable to sell any of my cards because of my shipping rules (pay for tracking or release me from responsibility of lost mail), then I may have to change my rules.
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nderdog Moderator
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posted October 20, 2011 02:05 PM
quote: Originally posted by MasterWolf: And I'll probably ask you to eat the Paypal fees so I can be protected. Or is that out of line too because the seller's rights are important but not the buyer's?
You're more than welcome to, but I guarantee that if you file a PayPal claim after agreeing that they aren't responsible, you're going to be on the wrong side of a BTA case and are likely to be banned. That isn't protecting yourself, it's fraud. __________________ There's no need to fear, UNDERDOG is here!All your Gruul Nodorogs are belong to me. Trade them to me, please! Report rules violations. Remember the Auctions Board!
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yakusoku Member
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posted October 20, 2011 02:09 PM
So...The Worlds Championship for Magic is coming very soon. It's going to be held in San Francisco, which is a very short drive from where I live. My friends and I haven't made any hard plans, but I imagine that we'll be trying to go as many days as we can afford. Anyone else planning on going?
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fluffycow Member
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posted October 20, 2011 02:15 PM
quote: Originally posted by JoshSherman: What a ****ing tool this posts makes you out to be Newsflash: your chances were always zero.
Disagree, I am sure being bullied isn't fun, but I am a big advocate of standing up for yourself because other people rarely will (especiallying in highschool). So as long as things don't get physical, then people really should be able to defend themselves verbally. I had a guy bully me freshmen year but that ended really quick when I lost it one day and ripped him a new one in the middle of the cafeteria. (no homo) quote: Originally posted by dfitzg88: in honesty, i'd rather lose to a fat unattractive girl than a cute skinny girl.
Disagree, I would lost 50% more game if I can have half of my opponent be attractive girls. And if I can meet girls at FNM, then I would actually go again. And if you think that having hot girls as opponents doesn't increase your chances of getting some...then you have been doing something wrong
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JoshSherman Member
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posted October 20, 2011 02:21 PM
quote: Originally posted by fluffycow: And if you think that having hot girls as opponents doesn't increase your chances of getting some...then you have been doing something wrong
My point was it's not them, it's you. __________________ *Joshweek*Letter Bombs!*Facebook Me* *Logout- I had it first (second)!*
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dfitzg88 Member
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posted October 20, 2011 02:22 PM
quote: Originally posted by JoshSherman: My point was it's not them, it's you.
whats wrong with me
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caquaa Member
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posted October 20, 2011 02:27 PM
quote: Originally posted by yakusoku: The Worlds Championship for Magic is coming very soon. It's going to be held in San Francisco, which is a very short drive from where I live. My friends and I haven't made any hard plans, but I imagine that we'll be trying to go as many days as we can afford.Anyone else planning on going?
Just bought my plane ticket. I'll be flying in thursday morning at ~8 and flying out sunday night at ~9. Maximizing my magic time. I used to live 3 hours south of there, but now I live about 8 hours north so flying makes a little more sense. Just gotta get a hotel set and everything. quote: Originally posted by MasterWolf: And I'll probably ask you to eat the Paypal fees so I can be protected. Or is that out of line too because the seller's rights are important but not the buyer's?
this has nothing to do with rights, just cost. Assuming we ignore the points the nder pointed out, you're asking me to pay for your protection once again. Either you'd pay for it, or accept responsibility for the package. Either way, I'm fairly easy to deal with. My prices tend to be low enough where people either don't mind the fees or the deal gets large enough that I don't care about fees any longer (within reason). When people start haggling down prices that are below market then want free shipping and no PayPal fees, that's when I usually cut things off and send people on their way.
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-Lunch_Box- Member
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posted October 20, 2011 05:42 PM
I just started a magic online account and opened a Lilana of the Veil in my first draft pack! Does anyone know of a tutorial/video that can tell me how to use the market place?Edit: Also how do find the best prices?
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jshields Member
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posted October 20, 2011 05:51 PM
Anyone able to suggest where I can get reasonably priced wholesale bulk mythics? I am looking for these for our small town game store, but most of the market seems kind of thin for these (I guess most are not junk after all). I may be contradicting myself, but have tried to contact a few retailers, but most are asking $1.00 or more + tax + shipping each (despite offering about $.25-$.30 each in buy list pricing), which is out of my budget. Is offering $.40-$.60 reasonable including buying promo mythics (Prerelease Malfegors, etc), considering that stores would make a profit nonetheless? I may be on the wrong forum to ask this, but thought I would double check here as it seemed like a post for finding magic oddities.
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LemonMeringue Member
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posted October 20, 2011 06:11 PM
I've seen a few stores offering 40-50 cents each themselves, if you wanted to buy a bunch from a store, probably 60-80 at least
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WeedIan Member
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posted October 20, 2011 06:53 PM
quote: Originally posted by -Lunch_Box-: I just started a magic online account and opened a Lilana of the Veil in my first draft pack! Does anyone know of a tutorial/video that can tell me how to use the market place?Edit: Also how do find the best prices?
Trade for many tix draft more. best option! Post saying X for X tix
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tragicmagic Member
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posted October 20, 2011 06:56 PM
I'm looking to buy a collection to get me jumpstarted back a bit. Do you think collections on eBay are worth buying? Most of them sell as portions. Like this for instance, http://www.ebay.com/itm/MTG-Magic-Instant-Collection-4000-cards-lot-over-100-rares-all-sets-/310352040343?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item48426c5197#ht_500wt_1127 I'm looking to spend maybe $150-$200 to help me get back into it. Or would I be better of buying a couple booster boxes?
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Bagbokk Member
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posted October 20, 2011 07:06 PM
IMO those eBay collections are terrible. They are likely all bulk as these vendors have the time to take out even 25-50c commons like Dark Rituals (and it would be worth doing so). Boxes are a much better deal and they're not even that great. I would probably first take a look locally (LGS, Craigslist, whatever) and see if someone wants to get out of Magic (or has already gotten out) and wants to sell their collection. At least that way you can inspect the cards to make sure it's not all complete junk.
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Mr.C Member
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posted October 20, 2011 07:10 PM
quote: Originally posted by tragicmagic: I'm looking to buy a collection to get me jumpstarted back a bit. Do you think collections on eBay are worth buying? Most of them sell as portions. Like this for instance, http://www.eb ay.com/itm/MTG-Magic-Instant-Collection-4000-cards-lot-over-100-rares-all-sets-/310352040343?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item48426c5197#ht_500wt_1127 I'm looking to spend maybe $150-$200 to help me get back into it. Or would I be better of buying a couple booster boxes?
You'll have better luck with Craigslist collections. __________________ #2 in posts from British Columbia!Got any Portuguese Foils? Post on my list or email me at valter.cid@gmail.com !
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caquaa Member
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posted October 20, 2011 08:05 PM
quote: Originally posted by tragicmagic: I'm looking to buy a collection to get me jumpstarted back a bit.
just buy the cards you want. Put up a list on MOTL. Make it a huge list if you have to. Ebay "collections" are typically bulk. Even finding a real collection you end up paying for cards that you aren't interested in. Buying what you need is far more simple.
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potaguitar Member
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posted October 20, 2011 08:13 PM
quote: Originally posted by yakusoku: So...The Worlds Championship for Magic is coming very soon. It's going to be held in San Francisco, which is a very short drive from where I live. My friends and I haven't made any hard plans, but I imagine that we'll be trying to go as many days as we can afford. Anyone else planning on going?
It's only about an hour and a half drive from where I live so I'm definitely planning on going. Would love to meet any fellow MOTLers who are attending.
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dragon172 Member
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posted October 20, 2011 08:13 PM
I've now opened 3 Snapcaster Mages in 3 straight drafts. This set LOVES me!
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choco man Member
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posted October 20, 2011 08:42 PM
quote: Originally posted by Timmyhill: After a trade and refs are exchanged is there any need to keep the trade information? If so how long would it be good to hold onto it for?
I would say hold onto to everything for as long as possible. Someone put me on BTA for a deal that was confirmed received a MONTH ago.
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ryan2754 Member
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posted October 20, 2011 10:39 PM
quote: Originally posted by MasterWolf: This is not supposed to be about you specifically. I mean, I hate taking responsibility too right. I mean, I'm not paying for a service to protect myself, thereby shirking responsibility. The problem is that people on this site have become so jaded by bad deals that the trust that was here in 2004 and before is gone. It feels like everyone wants to "medina" you in a trade or take "maximum" value or protection for themselves. It used to be if something got lost in the mail I knew for a fact it ACTUALLY got lost and I chalked it up to bad luck. Anyway, I rarely sell cards so its possible I just don't "understand". I just miss the "good old days". Now excuse me I need to take my meds and take a nap.
Meh, when I deal, I still deal like the old days. had a member I did a small deal with who had 11 refs. I have 200+. Back in the day, I was the guy with 11+ refs, and they simul-sended. I do the same with small deals as well. The quicker the better. TL;DR - I try to stay consistent to the old days. As for AG's comment, I can see how it could be construed as associated with his bitter losing rant but also as a response to the "Girls always win" thing. It was just very bad timing, as we as humans will associate it with his previous post. Suffice to say, AG, I've always liked your input and what not, but what you said, even if it was in a different context, wasn't OK. Even if it was in reference to "Girls always win thing," and your response, AGO, I think of the following quote: www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZH4h4etigo . Just saying - there's more to life than just body type and habitus. Being in the medical field has shed some new light on the topic of obesity. I understand their is nature and nurture to everything, including obesity, but personally, when I talk to patients who are morbidly obese, I just don't understand how they let themselves get to that point. It can be really frustrating, because parking further in the grocery mart parking lot, buying slightly healthier foods, etc. CAN GO A LONG WAY FOR THESE PEOPLE. And they are the people in the motorized carts at the grocery - vicious cycle I tell you. As for the ridicule, I'm surprised to see that out of Magic gamers. In my experience, magic players as a whole usually get ridiculed, so it's weird seeing one player do it to another. I've heard of a few instances of this occurring, and it baffles me - power trip type thing? Almost like a displacement/projective identification type defense. Either way, I was in a similar situation in grade school and HS. In grade school I was incessantly called homosexual slurs - and at that age, it does really get to you. In HS, I sat with the magic crowd, and beleive me, I heard about it EVERY SINGLE DAY at football practice later. You name it, they called me it. You know what I learned? That the only way for me fix it was to do something about it. I'm not talking about physical violence as a response, I'm talking about SUCCESS. SUCCESS is the best revenge. When I made the bball team in 8th grade, and when I started and was MVP in football on JV in 10th grade, trust me, it stopped. (Another aside: bullying has been making headlines lately, and parents are always trying to blame the schools yadda yadda. A lot of the time it falls on the parents. I never told my parents as a kid about what i was being called, but they did instill an attitude of "if you are going to get anywhere in life, you need to take it into your own hands and not depend on other people to solve your problems" and "hard work." Parents need to take a more active role in their parenting (on both sides of the bullying equation], and quit blaming the schools. Not saying the schools are devoid of blame, but it all starts at home and values instilled at a young age. So my advice for these players that keep giving you ****: Get better. Beat them. On a consistent basis. If that doesn't "earn" their respect, if they give you ****, just say, don't stoop to their level and start calling them out and saying they are this or that, just say something like "So who won the last couple matches?" It stings just enough and gets the point across. (As an aside on personal hygeine, however, there is a guy at the LGS that smells so bad I had to go out to my car and put some cologne under my nose so I didn't puke - I have NO IDEA how nobody else was responding like I was - I mean, I have a strong sense of small but Christ). {For the record, how do you go about addressing that sort of thing? Talk to the owner? Scared to do that, because I'm fairly new, but also afraid I may be overreacting due to my sense of smell...} As for DGfitz comments, if you are looking for woman at an FNM, then you are looking at the wrong place, in my opinion. Sure, you may find one girl here or there, but magic is a male dominated game, and on top of that, most of the girls I've seen are girls that are dating one of the guys already playing at my LGS. Granted, I've never been looking that hard, since I've had a GF for roughly 9 years, but yeah, not a good place to start (And for the record, since I love telling my life story, it was a year or two into our relationship before I told her I played magic [yeah, I was embarrassed by what she would think, given both our athletic backgrounds; sure, she always called me a nerd, but never 'associated' me with a game like 'magic, risk, etc.' - I use to play on Fridays with friends, I said I was playing cards - she assumed poker haha (as an aside, when I was in college, I played college football, and when my teammates figured out I played magic, wow, that wasn't fun. I hate how there is a Stigma with such cards games, it's really unfortunate because a fourth of the guys on the football team probably played it in grade school). Granted, I'm an exception to the above 'rule/stereotype,' but it's still BS. Then again I was an exception to the rule in football too (3.7 GPA, 2 Time Academic All American, Medical School) so that doesn't work either. As for the whole getting chicks while playing magic thing, I'm not one that is necessarily into Goth-type woman or anything, but there's one at the LGS who I thought was cute. Just flashed my life counter AGO made for me http://zombitography.deviantart.com/gallery/?offset=24#/d386wjc CHICKS dig it. Guys dig it too, but not into that sort of thing HAHA. __________________ -Schmitty 5th in Refs [207] in OH-IO (25 behind helper monkey) 2nd in Posts [6224] in OH-IO (only 1800 behind Val) “If Brad Stevens is the future of coaching in college basketball, the sport is in a good place.” - Rick Pitino
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JoshSherman Member
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posted October 21, 2011 05:50 AM
quote: Originally posted by dfitzg88: whats wrong with me
EVERYTHING! Not really. While my initial response was directed at you, and I still think the whole thing is ridiculous, the "it's not them, it's you" comment was intended to be a more general response, to all the people who think like that. Sorry I didn't make that clear. But seriously, why not just win so you don't have to worry about who you lose to? __________________ *Joshweek*Letter Bombs!*Facebook Me* *Logout- I had it first (second)!*
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