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Bagbokk
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posted February 20, 2012 02:46 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for Bagbokk Click Here to Email Bagbokk Send a private message to Bagbokk Click to send Bagbokk an Instant MessageVisit Bagbokk's Homepage  Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by stab107:
Really?

Good luck with that.


Shrug, I saw that sale. If he can confirm his identity on MTGS, I have no problem paying first to someone with 64+ iTrader there. As much as people here don't like counting refs on other sites (and as much as everyone bashes MTGSalvation), I've bought and sold cards on both sites long enough to know that the sales lot there is as legitimate as the TA/S forum here is. I guess he's limiting his potential buyes by alienating all the hardcore MOTLers but oh well, I'm sure he can make enough sales to eventually boost his refs to where people here will send first to him (assuming his prices are competitive anyway).

 
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How long do I have to wait for someone to not pay me for an item on the TA/S forum before I can BTA them?

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quote:
Originally posted by AlmostGrown:
How long do I have to wait for someone to not pay me for an item on the TA/S forum before I can BTA them?


If they've agreed, its supposed to be via paypal, and you haven't heard back from them; I'd say a week would be appropriate. Similar to the "sending late" thing. I just try to include a statement in my email that I expect payment within 24 or 48 hours (depending on my mood) and if I don't hear back within that time frame I send an email saying the deal is off and I'll relist the cards. Its worked okay for me. Half the time i get an email saying they'll pay asap, the other half I never hear back from again.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by caquaa:
If they've agreed, its supposed to be via paypal, and you haven't heard back from them; I'd say a week would be appropriate. Similar to the "sending late" thing. I just try to include a statement in my email that I expect payment within 24 or 48 hours (depending on my mood) and if I don't hear back within that time frame I send an email saying the deal is off and I'll relist the cards. Its worked okay for me. Half the time i get an email saying they'll pay asap, the other half I never hear back from again.

So if I do hear back from them and they no longer want it, I can BTA them, right? And if I never hear from them again I obviously BTA them.

 
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posted February 20, 2012 07:14 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for stu55 Click Here to Email stu55 Send a private message to stu55 Click to send stu55 an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
Why do people think that ~500 feedback on ebay is a lot?
 
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quote:
Originally posted by stu55:
Why do people think that ~500 feedback on ebay is a lot?

Because they're stupid?

 
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quote:
Originally posted by AlmostGrown:
So if I do hear back from them and they no longer want it, I can BTA them, right? And if I never hear from them again I obviously BTA them.

If you're feeling vindictive. As long as they did e-mail you back saying something along the lines of "yes, I'll take these cards and will have payment sent as soon as possible, here is my shipping info," you probably have a case.

If all that happened was you sent them an invoice based on their post and they just never got back to you, chances are that BTA will be tossed pretty fast.

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wayne
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Hmmm, Savannahs are sold out at SCG and CFB, is there some reason for that?
 
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quote:
Originally posted by wayne:
Hmmm, Savannahs are sold out at SCG and CFB, is there some reason for that?

quote:
Originally posted by Thanos:
Because (people are) stupid?

Seems like a good enough reason to me :P.

Though I know that's not the reason you are looking for. Maybe some new Legacy deck?

[Edited 1 times, lastly by stab107 on February 20, 2012]

 
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planning on getting some dark ascension boosters tomorrow
 
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Originally posted by telmagic20:
planning on getting some dark ascension boosters tomorrow

I could save you the time of opening the packs and ship you a bulk rare for every booster you were considering purchasing. DA is so bad......

 
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quote:
Originally posted by wayne:
Hmmm, Savannahs are sold out at SCG and CFB, is there some reason for that?

People like playing Maverick and bant?

 
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So, how about this controversey on the GP Indy playmat? I don't have the link readily available at work, but it's getting a lot of backlash. Even worse is the backlash to the backlash, with alot of personal attacks on women who are opposed to it in any way.

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quote:
Originally posted by MAB_Rapper:
So, how about this controversey on the GP Indy playmat? I don't have the link readily available at work, but it's getting a lot of backlash. Even worse is the backlash to the backlash, with alot of personal attacks on women who are opposed to it in any way.


here's the playmat

http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=128427&d=1329797205

 
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quote:
Originally posted by Tiff:
here's the playmat

http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=128427&d=1329797205


that is the greatest mat i have ever seen ever

 
Thanos
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quote:
Originally posted by MAB_Rapper:
So, how about this controversey on the GP Indy playmat? I don't have the link readily available at work, but it's getting a lot of backlash. Even worse is the backlash to the backlash, with alot of personal attacks on women who are opposed to it in any way.


Hmm, I don't see the problem...seriously.

 
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posted February 21, 2012 10:29 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for JackSpade Click Here to Email JackSpade Send a private message to JackSpade Click to send JackSpade an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by MAB_Rapper:
So, how about this controversey on the GP Indy playmat? I don't have the link readily available at work, but it's getting a lot of backlash. Even worse is the backlash to the backlash, with alot of personal attacks on women who are opposed to it in any way.


Heres a link tot eh top 20 tweets of playmatgate.

http://legitmtg.com/culture/20-tweets-sex-slave-playmat-controversy/

Some good ones in there, believe first one if from the lady who runs mtgmom.

As for the controversy, that playmat is way over the top. But it was indeed pulled from being an official handout.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by JackSpade:
Heres a link tot eh top 20 tweets of playmatgate.

http://legitmtg.com/culture/20-tweets-sex-slave-playmat-controversy/

Some good ones in there, believe first one if from the lady who runs mtgmom.


Yes, that indeed is Megan who is the MTGMom. The thing you don't see here is that Megan has been personally attacked because she had a problem with the playmat.

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quote:
Originally posted by Thanos:
Hmm, I don't see the problem...seriously.

I think it's because women with flame hair really hate it when you make them look like subordinates./seriouslyit'safreakinfantasypicture...dealwithit!



[Edited 1 times, lastly by hilikuS on February 21, 2012]

 
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quote:
Originally posted by MAB_Rapper:
Yes, that indeed is Megan who is the MTGMom. The thing you don't see here is that Megan has been personally attacked because she had a problem with the playmat.


Sucks for her but also part of a being a public figure and putting your opinions out there.

 
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After some of the recent grand prix mats that have been horrible (like Pittsburgh) this particular one is awesome! It stinks if they're not going to hand it out now. Some people take this stuff too seriously
 
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I think that's an awful playmat.
 
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Originally posted by JackSpade:
Sucks for her but also part of a being a public figure and putting your opinions out there.

Seriously? You really think that someone telling her that "any female that is offended by this picture is insecure with herself and needs to look within for answers on how to deal with stuff like this" is appropriate? Public figure or not, that's a load of crap.

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quote:
Originally posted by MAB_Rapper:
So, how about this controversey on the GP Indy playmat? I don't have the link readily available at work, but it's getting a lot of backlash. Even worse is the backlash to the backlash, with alot of personal attacks on women who are opposed to it in any way.

It's not the first of many horribly misogynistic/exploitative products marketed to mtg players and it probably will not be the last. I personally find it offensive and I think it’s unfortunate that the market exists to even make producing stuff like this worthwhile. I would be terribly embarrassed to use something like this in public and I would politely ask any opponent using something like this to turn it over.

I do realize there are far too many mtg players who see stuff like this, scream "BOOBIES!!!" and then pull out their wallets. Many of those are the same guys who whine about how no women play magic or girls look down on them for their hobby. It's stuff like this that steers women away from magic, because it shows women as nothing more than subservient sex workers catering to their master.

There’s a tremendous difference between tasteful fantasy art and stuff like this. People have the right to produce art like it and consumers will vote with their dollars, but I think wotc made the right decision in asking the TO to pull this from an officially sanctioned event. It likely would have been a PR nightmare if this were allowed to stand.

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Anyone know what the Lincoln play mat is going for on the secondary market. Heard them only made 400.
 

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