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A1phaMale
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 posted April 18, 2012 06:31 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for A1phaMale Click Here to Email A1phaMale Send a private message to A1phaMale Click to send A1phaMale an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote View A1phaMale's Have/Want ListView A1phaMale's Have/Want List
I saw this auction, and I felt utterly depressed. Apparently, all it takes is writing alpha/beta on a box with a marker, and you instantly get an additional $300.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/MAGIC-GATHERING-MTG-CARD-COLLECTION-OVER-3200-ESTATE-LOT-NR-LOW-START-/251037250339?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a72fc7323

 
Zeckk
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 posted April 18, 2012 06:40 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for Zeckk Click Here to Email Zeckk Send a private message to Zeckk Click to send Zeckk an Instant MessageVisit Zeckk's Homepage  Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
I thought the 1993 date should have been the tip-off that it's a scam.
 
B14ckM4g3
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 posted April 18, 2012 07:22 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for B14ckM4g3 Click Here to Email B14ckM4g3 Send a private message to B14ckM4g3 Click to send B14ckM4g3 an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
Doubt its a scam. probably legit. also doubt there is anything worthwhile in there.

Ive seen players that put such cards into binders many times. usually the 'valuable' cards are in the worse condition tucked away somewhere in the back. probably not worth more than fifty imo

 
I3Iood
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 posted April 18, 2012 09:14 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for I3Iood Click Here to Email I3Iood Send a private message to I3Iood Click to send I3Iood an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
Q: Can you add a few pictures of the cards in the boxes labeled Alpha/Beta? Thanks

A: I've had alot of emails concerning the white boxes, in hindsight I probaby should have taken some images of those stacks, but its easier for me now to list the lot as is, images as per the auction existing and let the bidders decide the final price. Hope that helps and I won't email any other bidders additional pics either for your piece of mind to be 100% fair to a bidding.

 
iccarus
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 posted April 18, 2012 10:03 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for iccarus Click Here to Email iccarus Send a private message to iccarus Click to send iccarus an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote View iccarus's Have/Want ListView iccarus's Have/Want List
That QA response is all the proof you need this is a scam.

Will still probably sell for over $500.

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AGO
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 posted April 18, 2012 10:07 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for AGO Click Here to Email AGO Send a private message to AGO Click to send AGO an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote View AGO's Trade Auction or SaleView AGO's Trade Auction or Sale
The cards in the Alpha and Beta boxes are really clean on the edges. They are showing nothing but totally crap cards in the binder. Why the hell would you leave the cards in that old crap box? This entire listing is bogus.
 
Demilio
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 posted April 18, 2012 11:04 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for Demilio Click Here to Email Demilio Send a private message to Demilio Click to send Demilio an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote View Demilio's Have/Want ListView Demilio's Have/Want List
Thanks for posting this, it's fun to look at and wonder if there is really anything good hidden in there (prob not)
 
toorima99
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 posted April 18, 2012 11:18 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for toorima99 Click Here to Email toorima99 Send a private message to toorima99 Click to send toorima99 an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote View toorima99's Have/Want ListView toorima99's Have/Want List
Oldest card I saw was an unlimited healing salve.
 
jaromirjagr
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You know its going to be good when someone puts crap commons and basic lands in their binder.
 
dwiz
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Does someone have the link of the "how to" website on these auctions? It's basically take a bunch of crap, write alpha/beta/unlimited on a few boxes and show like 2 or 3 decent cards. Say you know nothing about the game, estate sale purchase or the kid moved out and left these behind. This is such a copy of that how-to guide. It's like word for word.
 
Lord Crovax
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 posted April 18, 2012 01:36 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for Lord Crovax Click Here to Email Lord Crovax Send a private message to Lord Crovax Click to send Lord Crovax an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
My question is how many of these end up as ebay cases where people complain they got scammed?

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dwiz
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quote:
Originally posted by Lord Crovax:
My question is how many of these end up as ebay cases where people complain they got scammed?

The buyer can try but it probably won't work. It is "as described"

 
Leeroy
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 posted April 18, 2012 03:37 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for Leeroy Click Here to Email Leeroy Send a private message to Leeroy Click to send Leeroy an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by dwiz:
Does someone have the link of the "how to" website on these auctions? It's basically take a bunch of crap, write alpha/beta/unlimited on a few boxes and show like 2 or 3 decent cards. Say you know nothing about the game, estate sale purchase or the kid moved out and left these behind. This is such a copy of that how-to guide. It's like word for word.

http://www.channelfireball.com/articles/traderous-instinct-go-down-gambling/
 
mtglover
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But there's a refund policy for this. So can't the buyer just return it if it's a letdown?
 
Devonin
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Best case scenario for you if the cards are ****:

You ask for a refund, she gives it, you pay shipping twice, keep nothing, she probably ends up expecting/getting good feedback for being okay with the refund since she never promised there would be good money in there. She now has the cards to relist again.

Worst case scenario for you if the cards are ****:

You ask for a refund, she refuses because you got exactly what you paid for: "A big pile of magic cards" eBay almost certainly supports this. You're stuck with your crap, and a negative experience.

 
A1phaMale
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My other favorites are:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&_trksid=p4340.l2557&hash=item3a734956c2&item=251042289346&nma=true&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&rt=nc&si=au%252FgxePwbNRHldXKVBpA0FBNMyc% 253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&_trksid=p4340.l2557&hash=item231c579561&item=150799357281&nma=true&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&rt=nc&si=au%252FgxePwbNRHldXKVBpA0FBNMyc% 253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&_trksid=p4340.l2557&hash=item256f83551d&item=160784667933&nma=true&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&rt=nc&si=au%252FgxePwbNRHldXKVBpA0FBNMyc% 253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&_trksid=p4340.l2557&hash=item4cff8748e4&item=330704570596&nma=true&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&rt=nc&si=au%252FgxePwbNRHldXKVBpA0FBNMyc% 253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&_trksid=p4340.l2557&hash=item1c2546a571&item=120884471153&nma=true&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&rt=nc&si=au%252FgxePwbNRHldXKVBpA0FBNMyc% 253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&_trksid=p4340.l2557&hash=item1c25cefbc1&item=120893406145&nma=true&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&rt=nc&si=au%252FgxePwbNRHldXKVBpA0FBNMyc% 253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc

You can find them in the completed auctions, going by highest price first. Same guy with about 6 different usernames, showing the same 4 fake black lotus cards. It's amazing how stuff like this happens and how we all pay for it with the high Ebay and paypal fees. All in all, that guy may have scammed over 25k from stupid Ebayers.

 
Helspont
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Like they say. A fool and his money is soon parted. These pop up all the time, doubtful that any of them are really valuable during this day and age.
 
Volcanon
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That auction is hilarious. Like one rare in the entire binder and its terrible. And basic lands in a binder.

Guaranteed the "alpha/beta" box has crap in it.

And it sold for $905. So even if the box has 300 beta crap commons the winner loses.

A lot of the boxes I use for storage came from a friend in like 2004 and are labeled various things. It's very odd that people think that boxes labeled as something means what's inside is valuable.

Also it's odd the guy took so many pictures of the binder and none of the "alpha/beta" box. He clearly knows he's misleading people.

[Edited 1 times, lastly by Volcanon on April 18, 2012]

 
MTDetermine
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quote:
Originally posted by A1phaMale:
I saw this auction, and I felt utterly depressed. Apparently, all it takes is writing alpha/beta on a box with a marker, and you instantly get an additional $300.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/M AGIC-GATHERING-MTG-CARD-COLLECTION-OVER-3200-ESTATE-LOT-NR-LOW-START-/251037250339?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a72fc7323

There are much worse scams out there, involving greater sum of money or even worse fate. 1 girl I personally knew was conned by her high school senior into being a hooker at the age of 17!! She escaped eventually but got scarred for life.

Losing a few hundred bucks is a bad experience, but take it as a lesson learnt. Afterall, there are more expensive life lessons out there.

1 secondary thought. The ebay seller must have spent quite a bit of time arranging those cards into those albums. Why don't he use the time to do other meaningful work that an net him some money instead of resorting to such unsavory ways?

 
Demilio
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quote:
Originally posted by A1phaMale:
My other favorites are:

[url=http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&_trksid=p4340.l2557&hash=item4cff8748e4&item=330704570596&nma=true&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&rt=nc&si=au%252FgxePwbNRHldXKVBpA0FB NMyc%][/url]


The seller name's is "Chrisrushforth07" LOL


[Edited 2 times, lastly by Demilio on April 19, 2012]

 
djcards
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It sold, and it won't be hard to see feedback when (if) it comes...
 
Mr.C
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quote:
Originally posted by djcards:
It sold, and it won't be hard to see feedback when (if) it comes...

Won by a zero feedback user. Hm.

 
A1phaMale
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Here is another seller "cashing out":

http://www.ebay.com/csc/disciple_of_simon/m.html?LH_Complete=1&_ipg=50&_since=15&_sop=13&_rdc=1

 
MTDetermine
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quote:
Originally posted by A1phaMale:
Here is another seller "cashing out":

http://www.ebay.com/csc/disciple_of_simon/m.html?LH_Complete=1&_ipg=50&_since=1 5&_sop=13&_rdc=1

He has an auction for "MTG ARABIAN NIGHTS SEALED BOX 36 PACKS" that ended $2600.

Pretty sure the buyer got a hell of a bargain because I remember AN has 60 booster packs in a box. $45/pack is definitely downright cheap!

 
nylarotep
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quote:
Originally posted by A1phaMale:
Here is another seller "cashing out":

http://www.ebay.com/csc/disciple_of_simon/m.html?LH_Complete=1&_ipg=50&_since=1 5&_sop=13&_rdc=1

So is this guy a legit seller or what?

 

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