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oneofchaos
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quote:
Originally posted by Myy:
what do yuo call your decks?

Snug as a BUG in a RUG?

 
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quote:
Originally posted by JoshSherman:
I will be happy when people stop referring to decks by their shard or by abbreviating the colors. Naya, BUG, RUG... it's kinda DUM to me.

Shards and Guild names have a place when those blocks are in standard, but it annoys me in eternal formats. I have zero problems with using color initials at any time.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by Pail42:
Shards and Guild names have a place when those blocks are in standard, but it annoys me in eternal formats. I have zero problems with using color initials at any time.

Initials are fine if you're writing an article or reading about it in one, but how do you refer to a deck when speaking to someone.

Hey, do you have any tips for my Legacy RGB deck?

Hey, do you have any tips for my Legacy Red, Green, Black, deck?

Hey, do you have any tips for my Legacy Jund deck?

 
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quote:
Originally posted by CubFan81:
Initials are fine if you're writing an article or reading about it in one, but how do you refer to a deck when speaking to someone.

Hey, do you have any tips for my Legacy RGB deck?

Hey, do you have any tips for my Legacy Red, Green, Black, deck?

Hey, do you have any tips for my Legacy Jund deck?


When speaking I say each color name - it's the same number of syllables. When writing it down I use the initials because it saves time and space.

That's probably the same reason why many people use terms like "Jund" when speaking about decks. It saves time when saying the name. The problem is not everybody knows what the shards are or what colors each shard is - same with the Ravnica guilds. I went through a very confusing time when I came back to the game during Innistrad (last playing during Kamigawa) and I'd rather spare myself and others the necessity of knowing what an arbitrary five year old name means. Calling a deck "Grixis", has less meaning for me than calling it "Crosis" (as some people did back in the day) because I wasn't playing during the time when Grixis was a concept.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by JoshSherman:
I will be happy when people stop referring to decks by their shard or by abbreviating the colors. Naya, BUG, RUG... it's kinda DUM to me.


Same, about the shards. Seriously, want to punch these people in the temple. Esper tokens? When did Esper have anything to do with spirits, or Naya with any creature in that deck besides Emissary? It's kind of a huge pet peeve for me.
Abbreviating the colors is fine in writing, but not when people seriously say "i'm playing rug delver".

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quote:
Originally posted by Pail42:
When speaking I say each color name - it's the same number of syllables. When writing it down I use the initials because it saves time and space.

That's probably the same reason why many people use terms like "Jund" when speaking about decks. It saves time when saying the name. The problem is not everybody knows what the shards are or what colors each shard is - same with the Ravnica guilds. I went through a very confusing time when I came back to the game during Innistrad (last playing during Kamigawa) and I'd rather spare myself and others the necessity of knowing what an arbitrary five year old name means. Calling a deck "Grixis", has less meaning for me than calling it "Crosis" (as some people did back in the day) because I wasn't playing during the time when Grixis was a concept.


So you wouldn't have any idea what "Ghost Dad", "Boat Brew" or "Pickles" mean either. Decks get names, some descriptive and some not. If you don't know what it is, you can look it up really easily.

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Is it really that bad to have an easy nickname for a color combination?

If anything, it's a testament to WotC's marketing that those names have endured with players for as long as they have. I was always amazed with how well the guild names stuck with two-color combinations for so long after the original Ravnica block. The same holds true with the shards. For many people, those names go beyond the story line where they were introduced. They embody those colors and are an easy reference point for many players. That's why they endure.

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It's the internet. People will literally complain about everything.
 
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quote:
Originally posted by Zeckk:
It's the internet. People will literally complain about everything.


nice redundancy

 
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quote:
Originally posted by harbingerofthevoid:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Zeckk:
It's the internet. People will literally complain about everything.


nice redundancy

[/QUOTE]

I hate the word Redundancy, why do so many people use it

 
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quote:
Originally posted by Zeckk:
It's the internet. People will literally complain about everything.

I didn't really expect a full out conversation about it. Most of the stuff I say seems to get ignored. I do agree that it's a testament to WotC marketing tha those names stick around. When those names are describing decks that are nothing like their predecessors aside from the colors, I thi I it's dumb. I don't have to like it. It's not like I can make everybody change what they call their decks, and even if I could, would I?

I like inventive deck names (dirty kitty), or naming the deck around it's core components (thragdoor). During Scars block, I ran a mono-black poison control deck that I called "Mr. Yuk." I took a storm build to states in 2006 whose critical card was Grinning Ignus (yes, it was bad). I called it Cheshire Storm.

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Hahaa, i remember Mr. Yuk. You were trying to win without having to attack right?


I was always trying to figure out why Stoneforge Mystic looked so amazing. Never realized it was Bierek's art. He's definitely my favorite MTG artist. I can usually tell his new art without reading the name, like the m13 swamp or Breeding Pool.

And you know i love me some Drana.

edit: More MTGO questions

What's the best way to pick up cards on MTGO to build pauper decks?

Is there a 'modern pauper' format?

Is there any market to turn paper cards into mtgo cards? I understand that's difficult because of huge price differences in some cards

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quote:
Originally posted by Sovarius:

edit:
Is there any market to turn paper cards into mtgo cards? I understand that's difficult because of huge price differences in some cards



Sell paper cards, buy tix, then buy mtgo cards.

 
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Does anyone know if the Return to Ravnica novels were actually printed? I can only find the e-books online.

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quote:
Originally posted by AEther Storm:
Does anyone know if the Return to Ravnica novels were actually printed? I can only find the e-books online.

They were announced as e-book only and I don't think it ever changed.

 
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Do BTA questions go here or the general stuff thread?
 
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quote:
Originally posted by choco man:
Do BTA questions go here or the general stuff thread?

Yes.

 
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Miss the old book. The Brothers War and some of those early books were great.

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quote:
Originally posted by ryan2754:
Miss the old book. The Brothers War and some of those early books were great.


+1.

I also enjoyed the Kamigawa cycle actually. Toshi was a great character and Hidetsugu one badbehind Ogre.

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quote:
Originally posted by ryan2754:
Miss the old book. The Brothers War and some of those early books were great.


The Ice Age cycle books by Jeff Grubb were amazing and the original book Arena is one of my favorite books of all time.

 
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Look at the avaliable Tarms flood the market LOL

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my last MM post should have been PFMS.

1 A.M. Central time is the cut off for decent decks on Cockatrice for me.

2 a.m. == really bad stuff I used to play in '95. Hell, not even. Just bad. bad bad.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by WeedIan:
Look at the avaliable Tarms flood the market LOL



Except that supply will dry up and demand will increase as modern gets more popular.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by wayne:

Except that supply will dry up and demand will increase as modern gets more popular.

basically. I cracked one in my box... need 3 more
...and some bobs
...and some thoughtseizes ;(

 
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Why are a good number but certainly not all ebay auctions now featuring 'import charges' even for low-value items? I only ever paid duty on boxes and ebay never cared before.
 

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