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Magic1264
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quote:
Originally posted by Myy:
I'm going to be in San Francisco California for the next 2 weeks. anybody lives over there? didn't Yaku live in SF?

~Myy


He lives in San Jose. Channel fireball has their store in Santa Clara, where he still goes from time to time.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by mattw:
First of all, cheating is morally wrong.

But let's be real. Cheating is a skill. Everyone does it.


No attack here Matt! I must say though, speak for yourself. I don't, nor do I understand the point of cheating. I know others who feel the same way. If a person cheats, that person is a loser, whether they win or lose at whatever they are competing at. And at least one person will always know it.

[Edited 1 times, lastly by paragondave on July 24, 2013]

 
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I think there are certain things that I find okay to cheat at. Your diet? Sure. Taking too many 'sick days'? Why not? The person who it will end up affecting the most is you.

In a game or match, however, where there are clear rules to allow for fair play, and cheating ends up skewing the balance in your favor, not so much.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by paragondave:
I don't, nor do I understand the point of cheating. I know others who feel the same way. If a person cheats, that person is a loser, whether they win or lose at whatever they are competing at. And at least one person will always know it.

QFT

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quote:
Originally posted by mattw:

It's harder to prove a mtg player guilty of cheating especially if they have devoted a good portion of their life to winning by any means necessary. Thats just who and what we are.

I'm not defending a cheater but be realistic, more often than not,
you're gonna bump into someone that is upset with you rather than apologize for themselves


I am by no means the best Magic player on earth, probably below average, but I feel like the challenge of the game is enough. Like, if you can devote a bunch of time learning how to cheat at it, you could have just devoted that time to learning the game itself. The game is fun for me because it's challenging. I guess if the lowest common denominator is to win, then yeah it makes some sense to cheat if you think you can get away with it. Still though, there's gotta be something more lucrative you can cheat at...

I know for some, winning is far more important. I had a friend who would feel the need to win at just about any cost. I mean, he would sometimes blatantly cheat. When he lost, he would even make excuses. Most of the time the rest of us just didn't care because we were there to play and have fun. There was never any prizes to be won. So whatever, let Sean do his thing. I don't know what kind of psychological disorder it was, but he absolutely HAD to think he was winning. To the point where he was caught adding cards to his draft pool, and then was banned from the local shop. I guess that's kind of a deeper seeded problem.

Big tourneys are one thing, and even still I don't see a good reason to cheat, but running your scam on the local game is just plan BS. I don't think I'll ever understand it.

 
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Talking about cheating...


I have always felt that I hold myself to high moral standards. Think what you will, but I'll admit i'm a little conceded.

What annoys me more than anything is being accused of cheating.

For someone to think I'm so scummy that I would cheat to win a game, prizes or not, is one thing that instantly sours me on a person.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by daner:
1.I do not know Medina. Nor do I ever care to get to know him. He's a person, who like me, plays MTG. He cheats at it...I don't.

I wouldn't be surprised if this is accurate, as I am reasonably convinced that most top players have figured out how to game the system to their advantage without being blatant like Bertoncini was. However, you've provided no evidence of it, and no one else has stepped up to substantiate this claim. Several of us are wondering how you came to the conclusion that he cheats at Magic. It even started a discussion about cheating!

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I haven't the foggiest who or what everyone is talking 'bout this Medina fella, but I do know someone that sang about the man:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pp-YPWnGmLg


Tone Loc rules.

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[Edited 1 times, lastly by AEther Storm on July 25, 2013]

 
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I don't know which is better for my powered cube, battlegrace angel or angel of thune?
 
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quote:
Originally posted by fluffycow:
I don't know which is better for my powered cube, battlegrace angel or angel of thune?

You got to be playing a lot of cards before you need those.

 
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Originally posted by choco man:
You got to be playing a lot of cards before you need those.

WHat's there for 5 drops in white, baneslayer and cloudgoat, right? I have a 540 cube and I have battlegrace in there now, anything obvious that I am missing?

 
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quote:
Originally posted by fluffycow:
WHat's there for 5 drops in white, baneslayer and cloudgoat, right? I have a 540 cube and I have battlegrace in there now, anything obvious that I am missing?

Reveillark and Karmic Guide.

I don't think Thune and Battlegrace are good enough to play. But I don't build strictly on curve either, so if I'm missing a 5cc drop here and there it doesn't matter to me. That said, I still think with Lark and Karmic Guide you'll have more than enough 5cc drops in white for 540.

 
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Originally posted by choco man:
Reveillark and Karmic Guide.

I don't think Thune and Battlegrace are good enough to play. But I don't build strictly on curve either, so if I'm missing a 5cc drop here and there it doesn't matter to me. That said, I still think with Lark and Karmic Guide you'll have more than enough 5cc drops in white for 540.


You are right, they are both in there, just forgot. Maybe I will take the battlegrace out and put in imposing soverign. Anything else you think is good in M14 besides the hydra?

 
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quote:
Originally posted by fluffycow:
You are right, they are both in there, just forgot. Maybe I will take the battlegrace out and put in imposing soverign. Anything else you think is good in M14 besides the hydra?

chandra, young pyromancer, elvish mystic, and maybe strionic resonator, depending on your cube. looks fun in mine.

green has enough generic fat that im not adding hydra.

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quote:
Originally posted by fluffycow:
You are right, they are both in there, just forgot. Maybe I will take the battlegrace out and put in imposing soverign. Anything else you think is good in M14 besides the hydra?

Not including the reprints:

1. Chandra; worth a try even if she doesn't work out. I like the original Chandra more. At 540, I think she'll work.
2. Young Pyromancer; worth a try also.
3. Elvish Mystic: functional reprint, cube staple, nothing else to say.



[Edited 1 times, lastly by choco man on July 25, 2013]

 
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quote:
Originally posted by thror:
chandra, young pyromancer, elvish mystic, and maybe strionic resonator, depending on your cube. looks fun in mine.

green has enough generic fat that im not adding hydra.


quote:
Originally posted by choco man:
Not including the reprints:

1. Chandra; worth a try even if she doesn't work out. I like the original Chandra more. At 540, I think she'll work.
2. Young Pyromancer; worth a try also.
3. Elvish Mystic: functional reprint, cube staple, nothing else to say.


I don't have functional reprints in my cube because I think that it kind of breaks the fundamental philosophy of the cube. Chandra is getting a lot of backers so i think I will give her a shot, young pyromancer too. What do you guys think about lifebane zombie and that hexproof dog?

 
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quote:
Originally posted by fluffycow:
I don't have functional reprints in my cube because I think that it kind of breaks the fundamental philosophy of the cube.

do you have terror and doom blade? lightning bolt and chain lightning? at some point, cube balance should become a thing, and green really needs the 1 drop ramp dudes. That's all green has going for it.

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quote:
Originally posted by thror:
do you have terror and doom blade? lightning bolt and chain lightning? at some point, cube balance should become a thing, and green really needs the 1 drop ramp dudes. That's all green has going for it.


My cube is balanced, I only took out cultivate recently because it was getting harder to cut cards and taking out functional reprints let me play with a more diverse card pool. And 1 drop ramp dudes are pretty average, I mean if they functionally reprinted ancestral recall, then I may have to renege

 
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quote:
Originally posted by JoshSherman:
I wouldn't be surprised if this is accurate, as I am reasonably convinced that most top players have figured out how to game the system to their advantage without being blatant like Bertoncini was. However, you've provided no evidence of it, and no one else has stepped up to substantiate this claim. Several of us are wondering how you came to the conclusion that he cheats at Magic. It even started a discussion about cheating!


Which hammers home my other points even more.... you're the second person to ONLY quote that. I have said before that I did not read what he posted on twitter...or anything else. It was all hearsay. I just find it funny that so many people would take to twitter or other things to berate the man for a multitude of things ie cheating at Magic, cheating on his spouse(which is nobody's business), being a scummy trader, ego...etc etc all bc he said he's quitting to take better control over his personal life?

Like I said I don't know him, all I know is what I've heard, and still if he's choosing his family life over a game...well good for him and I hope it all works out, ESPECIALLY if a child is involved.

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Originally posted by fluffycow:
You are right, they are both in there, just forgot. Maybe I will take the battlegrace out and put in imposing soverign. Anything else you think is good in M14 besides the hydra?

I'm surprised nobody has mention the new Garruk yet. He's really good to help you draw into more creatures, and cheating things like Progenitus, Woodfall Primus, or any other giant green idiot into play seems pretty good.

[Edited 1 times, lastly by daner on July 25, 2013]

 
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Now allow me to hammer my point.

You said he cheats at Magic. No one else in this thread has said that. What is the source of your information? Are you aware that without proof, you words can be considered libelous? It's put up or shut up time.

I don't give a crap about any part of this, except that you called him a cheater. Like I said, I basically believe it, but what proof do you have?

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[Edited 1 times, lastly by JoshSherman on July 25, 2013]

 
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quote:
Originally posted by daner:

I'm surprised nobody has mention the new Garruk yet. He's really good to help you draw into more creatures, and cheating things like Progenitus, Woodfall Primus, or any other giant green idiot into play seems pretty good.

6 is a poopload, I think he does deserve a shot, but what am I going to take out for him? Another fatty?

 
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quote:
Originally posted by JoshSherman:
Now allow me to hammer my point.

You said he cheats at Magic. No one else in this thread has said that. What is the source of your information? Are you aware that without proof, you words can be considered libelous? It's put up or shut up time.

I don't give a crap about any part of this, except that you called him a cheater. Like I said, I basically believe it, but what proof do you have?


Again...it's what I have been told. I'm not going to name sources an out people...I was told he sometimes cheats, not only at MTG but on his wife. I have no proof other than what people said. I've been told the guy's ego is re-donk-u-lis....never met him. Dunno. I've been told he is VERY shady at trading and will rip off anyone he can....again, never met the guy but I've heard a LOT of stories.

This is why the entire time I've stood by my stance that it's foolish to dogpile the guy. He really hasn't done anything to anyone...it's all a bunch of he said she said. I've stated good for him and that I hope his can fix everything he thinks is broke in his life....whatever people have claimed he to have done....I really A. don't care B. don't really know if it's true. So how could I do anything other than the right thing to do, which is I wish you well and hope you can get your life back on track?

I don't care if it was my mortal enemy....I'd feel bad and compassion for them if they needed time to get their marriage back in order. Family is everything man, I've said that more than once. I wish him luck and hope it works out, and for those who wanna take pot shots at him I feel like you're being very inconsiderate. The man acknowledges a fault and has vowed to fix it. Go him.

Why am I defending myself from defending the person I defended?

[Edited 1 times, lastly by daner on July 25, 2013]

 
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quote:
Originally posted by fluffycow:
6 is a poopload, I think he does deserve a shot, but what am I going to take out for him? Another fatty?

I'm not a fan of Garruk either.

Even in EDH.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by daner:


Why am I defending myself from defending the person I defended?


3 defends in the same sentence. wow. That's a first for my eyes.

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So this Serum Powder wasn't listed as 'Scraped across gravel and boogered on' so I am upset because it came in the condition of 'Scraped across gravel and boogered on'.

If that is "Near Mint" to you, I can't imagine what you think lightly played is. What is the boogery stuff on my card? I hope it is chemical and not biological in nature.

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