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stu55
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Figured I would start this one
 
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I'm going to be in San Francisco California for the next 2 weeks. anybody lives over there? didn't Yaku live in SF?

I'm wondering so I that I take some decks or not. play friendlies.

~Myy

 
wayne
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Anyone able to tell me what the current MTGO Standard meta is like?
 
daner
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posted July 23, 2013 09:36 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for daner Click Here to Email daner Send a private message to daner Click to send daner an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
Here is a follow-up to my response... without ANY personal attacks.


1.I do not know Medina. Nor do I ever care to get to know him. He's a person, who like me, plays MTG. He cheats at it...I don't.

2.I have not read the twitter feed, nor will I read it, about how he's quitting to better his personal life. As a MTG player...good, glad he will no longer be around to cheat. As a human being....good for him. I wish him the very best in hopes he can fix what he thinks is screwed up in his life. Be it what he's done himself or other circumstances.

This is why I think he's getting so much support. We all know about his MTG life, but his personal life does NOT affect any of us in the gaming community. There really is no reason to call him a scumbag on his twitter feed bc of whatever reason you want to give from a personal life choice.

If you want to berate him for his years of poor standing in the gaming community...go ahead, but it's been done plenty. Kick the dead horse if you want, but nobody cares at this point.

3.Yes. He posted something on social media....something. I have not read it. Nor will I read it. He probably should have just kept it to himself...but I do wonder....what exactly did he say? If it was a simple "I'm quitting bc I need to get my personal life back on track" or somethnig to that tune I see no problem with that....I DO however see a problem with people chiming in about his infidelity if he never brought that up. Like I said I don't know...from what I've gathered it seems like this is more the case.

That's just plain being a jerk. Let's say for instance that someone had drug problems...and was like, hey, I gotta go deal with some things...wish me luck. It would be REAL scummy to tweet "yea, well maybe you shouldn't do crank" on his twitter feed.....again, probably shouldn't post stuff that personal, but again people are just ignorant *******s.

4.If you wonder why people are being supportive....it's bc no matter how much you dislike somebody, or have a general hatred for them, part of being a human being IS the ability to have some compassion in hopes they can make their life better. Maybe if he gets his life together, he will become a better man, and a better person?

Even if you don't like him, what has his wife? or children(dunno if he has any) ever done to you? If anything you wish him luck that he can take care of them better than he has.

I know it takes a little bit more time, and being able to swallow all that hate for a min can be rough, to stop and say...hey, I wish you and your loved ones the best of luck instead of spitting on and/or kicking a downed man as you walk by because you dislike him.


Like I said, I don't know him personally, I know he's been a poor contribution to the gaming community over the years....but it's not just him, it's his family who are suffering...and I have no beef with them. I hope, as I would hope others would too, show a little bit of compassion and give the man some props for trying to make a change in his life.

For some people....I guess that was too much, and just found it easier to criticize. To those people....it is my belief you are acting in a way that is just as horrible as you point this man out to be.

 
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I didn't like him because of his personality, watching him "trade" with people in real life, and his general ego being bigger than his collection.

I never knew he cheated. Any evidence on this? (I must have been out of the loop for a while).

 
Kwas
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Can people please elaborate on what he did, that was so scum baggy that people want to go to extensive lengths to bash him over the internet?
 
daner
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quote:
Originally posted by oneofchaos:
I didn't like him because of his personality, watching him "trade" with people in real life, and his general ego being bigger than his collection.

I never knew he cheated. Any evidence on this? (I must have been out of the loop for a while).


I never liked what I've heard either....but what does his personal life and MTG life have to do with each other? Nothing. The man knows he screwed up/is screwing up his personal life...and he's trying to fix it. I find it hard to fault him, or let alone assault him with inflammatory posts in social media simply because you don't like the way he conducted himself in the gaming community.

Just because he ripped somebody off in a lopsided trade, or had a massive ego when dealing with MTG doesn't mean I hope the guys marriage fails....or worse.

quote:
Originally posted by Kwas:
Can people please elaborate on what he did, that was so scum baggy that people want to go to extensive lengths to bash him over the internet?

Most people seem like they can't, only by what they've heard. Or if they do have a personal expierence it doens't seem bad enough to warrant such a response. It seems like a lot of people have used this time in his personal life to attack his MTG professional life. Which is unfair I believe, and plain rude.

[Edited 1 times, lastly by daner on July 23, 2013]

 
oneofchaos
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quote:
Originally posted by daner:
I never liked what I've heard either....but what does his personal life and MTG life have to do with each other? Nothing. The man knows he screwed up/is screwing up his personal life...and he's trying to fix it. I find it hard to fault him, or let alone assault him with inflammatory posts in social media simply because you don't like the way he conducted himself in the gaming community.

Just because he ripped somebody off in a lopsided trade, or had a massive ego when dealing with MTG doesn't mean I hope the guys marriage fails....or worse.


I just said he was a jerk, and I didn't like him. I could care less if his marriage succeeds/fails. Watching my first ever meeting with him, seeing the first words out of his mouth (I'll buy this card from some guy) @ Gencon was enough for me. I wanted to know more of his MTG cheating, this I was not aware of.

 
AGO
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I have a bunch of cards that have stamps on them. Like stars and a little bee. I know that they are from drafting but from what type of events? I just need to know what to put on my sales list. Please pm if you know what I am talking about.
 
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quote:
Originally posted by AGO:
I have a bunch of cards that have stamps on them. Like stars and a little bee. I know that they are from drafting but from what type of events? I just need to know what to put on my sales list. Please pm if you know what I am talking about.

they're from Grand Prix. just label them GP Stamped. unless you know who you got them from, you probably cant trace which GP they came from.

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[Edited 1 times, lastly by thror on July 23, 2013]

 
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quote:
Originally posted by Kwas:
Can people please elaborate on what he did, that was so scum baggy that people want to go to extensive lengths to bash him over the internet?

He has resigned from LegitMTG and you can read about it at the site.

 
bushe
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quote:
Originally posted by daner:
I never liked what I've heard either....but what does his personal life and MTG life have to do with each other? Nothing...

Just because he ripped somebody off in a lopsided trade, or had a massive ego when dealing with MTG doesn't mean I hope the guys marriage fails....or worse...

It seems like a lot of people have used this time in his personal life to attack his MTG professional life. Which is unfair I believe, and plain rude.



I have never met the guy, I have not posted anything about it on any forum. I don't really care in the slightest about any of the stuff to do with him personally, but what you are saying is ridiculous. If you put yourself in the public conscience by doing things like writing articles and posting info on publicly accessible websites then you open yourself up to be talked about and thought about in whatever manner people see fit to do so.

I can't get by this thought of yours that he has an "MTG Professional" side and a personal life side. You are one person that is why people lump the good and the bad that you do and come to a conclusion as to how they feel about you. I have had close friends of mine steal from me, and then we ceased to be friends. I didn't look at them and think, "well that was just his thief side, I really like the social aspects of him." If he is trying to change his life one of the first things to do is to take accountability for his actions. It sounds like people are giving him a lot of opportunities to do so. You don't get to have a personal life and mtg life, you just have one life, sometimes you can choose which sides of it people see but if you are going to post it on the internet then your options are going to be limited.

 
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Without sounding needy I couldn't find anything about him cheating in MTG. Granted if he is willing to cheat on his wife it would be pretty easy to cheat in magic. I prefer innocent till guilty approach, so if anyone has a link that would be awesomesauce.
 
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Boo this means i won't get to try and pit someone against him in a trade off to see who gets the most value at GP Detroit.

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oneofchaos
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quote:
Originally posted by WeedIan:
Boo this means i won't get to try and pit someone against him in a trade off to see who gets the most value at GP Detroit.


"Medina trades binder for Detroit, Detroit quite happy with the result."

 
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Can't say I'm surprised to read Medina has problems.
 
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quote:
Originally posted by oneofchaos:
Without sounding needy I couldn't find anything about him cheating in MTG.

I don't think anybody has said that.

http://legitmtg.com/culture/farewell/
http://jonathandavidmedina.tumblr.com/post/56159937416/a-traitor-to-love

 
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found in a zero ref member's rules:

quote:
Highest ref sends first (probably you)
 
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quote:
Originally posted by caquaa:
found in a zero ref member's rules:

[QUOTE]Highest ref sends first (probably you)


[/QUOTE]

Decent chance they copied a current user's OP that they liked?

 
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MTG is a community where you can be a big fish in a small pond. I'm sure some of you are the really big fish in your pond. Medina certainly took advantage of that for himself and it cost him dearly.

I understand why people don't like Medina. People blame SCG for not being able to afford pieces of cardboard. People blame Medina for not being able to rip off newbs as easily anymore. People don't like his style and attitude. Personally, I feel bad for the people in the first 2 camps.

He's certainly no hero for disrespecting his marriage and admitting it on the internet. But if you don't think people should support him, how come?

You can't talk through both sides of your mouth. If you don't support Medina because he does something you don't like, you can choose not to support someone who does things you don't like. But then the same person is aiming to pursue something entirely right (like honoring his marriage), where is the legitimate reason to not support that?

This isn't something where we make fun of people who think Jace TMS will drop in price. This is more serious. Anyone focusing on the marital infidelity portion of Medina's problems is short-sighted.

I think everyone of us can look at a point where we wrongfully put MTG ahead of other things in our lives that are much more important.

 
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Where can I get cards made/printed?
Same size/shape/thickness/rigidity as MTG cards.

Trying to search online but getting a lot of greeting cards and the like. Most business cards I've found square cornered, wallet sized, and thin.

Vistaprint is probsbly the 'obvious' go-to but didn't see anything that could be used as a playable card.

Topps seems to do custom cards, looking into their site right now. But options are nice.

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quote:
Originally posted by Sovarius:
Trying to search online but getting a lot of greeting cards and the like. Most business cards I've found square cornered, wallet sized, and thin.

your GoogleFu is weak!

this was one of the ones that looked the best when I was looking for a buddy of mine who wanted to get his card game printed

http://www.playingcardsindia.com/

he hasn't used them yet, nto sure hes going to, so can't comment on how well the job was done or the pricing.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by daner:

1.I do not know Medina. Nor do I ever care to get to know him. He's a person, who like me, plays MTG. He cheats at it...I don't.

 
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https://docs.google.com/file/d/1r-htq6xKU2UaTCvsYZVzRupychZ0NH1Bw83ugSmHdiKqPM7olvXEZqYpXAop/edit
Just a lookout for a stolen deck at MTG Deals in Southern California. Be nice if the guy could get his deck back.
 
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First of all, cheating is morally wrong.

But let's be real. Cheating is a skill. Everyone does it. Athletes, politicians, regular joe's(smudging facts on a resume)

If an athlete can be better without getting caught for blood transfusion, not just the 'roids, or a president get money from a loophole and still win.... why not a magic player.

It's harder to prove a mtg player guilty of cheating especially if they have devoted a good portion of their life to winning by any means necessary. Thats just who and what we are.

I'm not defending a cheater but be realistic, more often than not,
you're gonna bump into someone that is upset with you rather than apologize for themselves

 

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