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Originally posted by dfitzg88:
It's interesting how many people come to the defense of sketchy players. I understand the benefit of devil's advocate, but why should the onus be on the honest players to notice these things?

Sure, the rules may not directly address the proper way to reveal one's hand, but 'revealing your hand' would, in a perfect world, require you to show your opponent all of the cards in your hand. How is hiding a card also considered revealing it?

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Originally posted by dwiz:
Everyone cheats at these things. At some point, there needs to be DQs. I played against a guy who was playing Pod. All 4 of his pods had a quarter pressed on the sleeves, so there was a big circle on each one. I noticed as he scooped up his cards as he won game one. I told the judge, he comes over and face down goes through all the cards and says "your opponent says these are marked birthing pods" flips them over and they are. He wins game one still, gets a game loss. This was round 6. He cheated for 6 rounds, and gets a one game loss as a penalty. Wizards is simply ok with cheating at events, and they prove it again and again.

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I stopped taking magic as seriously when Alex B was allowed to go on a rampage and cheat. Not that all good players cheat, but when it's socially ok to cheat to win it's time for me to find a new game.

My opponent wants to use Mikaeus, the Lunarch as a tiny commander general. My question is this

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Originally posted by flam flawless:
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My opponent wants to use Mikaeus, the Lunarch as a tiny commander general. My question is this

If he puts him in play turn 3 as a 2/2, it gets bolted before it can do anything and goes back to the command zone, when he recasts it using 5 mana, does it come back out as a 2/2 or a 4/4?

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It comes back as a 2/2. The +2 commander tax applies to the overall cmc, so it would be like his casting cost is now X2W. The only time it works the other way is on the cards that specifically grant a bonus based on the mana spent to cast them, such as Marath or Prossh.

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Originally posted by dwiz:
Everyone cheats at these things. At some point, there needs to be DQs. I played against a guy who was playing Pod. All 4 of his pods had a quarter pressed on the sleeves, so there was a big circle on each one. I noticed as he scooped up his cards as he won game one. I told the judge, he comes over and face down goes through all the cards and says "your opponent says these are marked birthing pods" flips them over and they are. He wins game one still, gets a game loss. This was round 6. He cheated for 6 rounds, and gets a one game loss as a penalty. Wizards is simply ok with cheating at events, and they prove it again and again.

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Intentionally marked cards should be handled according to the "cheating" section and result in a disqualification.
• The player must be attempting to gain advantage from his or her action.
• The player must be aware that he or she is doing something illegal.

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Originally posted by Pail42:
The "Marked Cards" section of the Infraction Procedure Guide primarily deals with unintentional marking and does specify the upgrade to game loss is acceptable if it was used to an advantage.

Intentionally marked cards should be handled according to the "cheating" section and result in a disqualification.
• The player must be attempting to gain advantage from his or her action.
• The player must be aware that he or she is doing something illegal.

I'm not a judge, but it sounds like a bad call was made in this circumstance.

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Originally posted by Pail42:
The "Marked Cards" section of the Infraction Procedure Guide primarily deals with unintentional marking and does specify the upgrade to game loss is acceptable if it was used to an advantage.

Intentionally marked cards should be handled according to the "cheating" section and result in a disqualification.
• The player must be attempting to gain advantage from his or her action.
• The player must be aware that he or she is doing something illegal.

I'm not a judge, but it sounds like a bad call was made in this circumstance.

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I thought that was supposed to be a match loss and a possible DQ based on any priors. Am I wrong here?

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Originally posted by dwiz:
I don't know what happened as the judge took the player away from the table and talked to him and came back with his decision while the player bought new sleeves. When I appealed to the head judge, the marked sleeves were already discarded and could not be shown to the head judge, but he said either way, the penalty was going to be only a game loss. Had to sit there (and lose) game 3 to a player who everyone involved knew was cheating.

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Originally posted by coasterdude84:
Thought about getting back into the competitive scene a few years ago, but seeing how the floor rules have almost become a joke and the number of players still blatantly cheating with virtually no repercussions has pretty much dissuaded me from doing so. Sad, really.

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Originally posted by revenger:
Can some one tell me why serum visions is so expensive?

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High demand and it hasn't been reprinted except as an exclusive foil iirc.

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Originally posted by Pail42:
It was printed a long time ago.
It was printed in at a time when standard was really bad and many players left the game.
It was printed in the third set of the block, which historically is the poorest selling set.
It wasn't fully appreciated at the time - many probably got left on tables and thrown away.

And ... it's pretty much the best single U spell of its type for modern. There isn't much else (or anything?) out there for modern that lets you look at so many cards for so little investment.

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To be fair, they banned everything that was better. But yeah, pretty much spot on. FD came out during the height of the Raffinity/skullclamp dominance of standard.

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Originally posted by revenger:
Then why isn't preordain higher? Isn't it like the same thing?

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Originally posted by dfitzg88:
The key difference is that Preordain is banned in modern

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Ponder is also. I'm beginning to understand now why it's so expensive.

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