and newest Yang list: MIX AND MATCH (Select 4 different proxies; playsets of 1 proxy not available):
Abrupt Decay
Adun Oakenshield
AEther Vial (Darksteel)
Ali from Cairo
All Hallow's Eve
Ancestral Recall (Beta)
Ancient Tomb
Angus Mackenzie
Arcbound Ravager (Darksteel)
Arid Mesa
Auriok Champion
Badlands (Beta)
Badlands (Revised)
Bayou (Beta)
Bayou (Revised)
Bazaar of Baghdad
Berserk
Bitterblossom (Morningtide)
Black Lotus (Beta)
Blood Moon (Modern Masters)
Blood Moon (The Dark)
Cascade Bluffs (Eventide)
Chains of Mephistopholes
City of Traitors
Concordant Crossroads
Creeping Tar Pit
Cunning Wish
Cyclopian Tomb
Damnation
Dark Depths
Diamond Valley
Doubling Season
Drop of Honey
Earthcraft
Eidolon of the Great Revel
Elephant Graveyard
Emrakul, the Aeons Torn
Entomb
Eureka
Fetid Heath
Flusterstorm
Force of Will
Gamble
Gauntlet of Might
Glimmervoid
Glimpse of Nature
Glimpse the Unthinkable
Goblin Guide
Goro's Vengeance
Grim Monolith
Guardian Beast
Gwendlyn Di Corci
Hazezon Tamar
Heritage Druid
Illusionary Mask
Imperial Seal
In the Eye of Chaos
Intuition
Invoke Prejudice
Island of Wak-Wak
Jihad
Karn Liberated
Kozilek, Butcher of Truth
Land Equilibrium
Lich
Linvala, Keeper of Silence
Lion's Eye Diamond
Living Plain
Marsh Flats
Maze of Ith
Metalworker
Micosynth Lattice
Mirror Universe
Mishra's Factory (Winter)
Mishra's Workshop
Misty Rainforest
Mox Jet (Beta)
Mox Pearl (Beta)
Mox Sapphire (Beta)
Mox Ruby (Beta)
Natural Order
Noble Hierarch
Old Man of the Sea
Pact of Negation
Phyrexian Dreadnought
Phyrexian Obliterator
Plateau (Beta)
Plateau (Revised)
Power Artifact
Primeval Titan
Ragnar
Rasputin, Dreamweaver
Reset
Ring of Ma'ruf
Rings of Brighthearth
Rishadan Port
Savannah (Beta)
Savannah (Revised)
Scalding Tarn
Scroll Rack
Scrubland (Unlimited)
Scrubland (Revised)
Serra Sanctum
Sharazad
Singing Tree
Sinkhole
Sliver Legion
Sliver Queen
Sower of Temptation
Spellskite
Splinter Twin
Steam Vents (Guildpact)
Stoneforge Mystic
Survival of the Fittest
Sword of Feast and Famine
Sylvan Library
Taiga (Beta)
Taiga (Revised)
Tarmogoyf (Future Sight)
Tawnos's Coffin
Tetsuo Umezawa
The Abyss
Thoughtseize
Through the Breach
Time Spiral
Time Vault (Unlimited)
Tolarian Academy
Transmute Artifact
Tropical Island (Beta)
Tropical Island (Revised)
Tundra (Beta)
Tundra (Revised)
Twilight Mire
Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre
Underground Sea (Beta)
Vampiric Tutor
Vendillion Clique (Morningtide)
Verdant Catacombs
Voice of Resurgence
Volcanic Island (Beta)
Volcanic Island (Revised)
Volrath's Stronghold
Wasteland
Wheel of Fortune
Word of Command
Wurmcoil Engine

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Originally posted by DJSmurfy:
Where are you finding these lists? Interesting that they're doing Italian out of all foreign languages. The only other non-English fake I've seen was Mana Crypt (I think). Demand for Italian is pretty low, you'd think they'd go for Japanese.

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Originally posted by kingtal0n:
has anyone looked at any of these easy to get fakes, and found the traditional wizards dot printing pattern?

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As others have mentioned, some fakes will have blue cores, but in my experience these fail the light test much more visibly. The above usb microscope is powerful enough to see the blue core without tearing the card.

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Originally posted by noquarter:
Thanks a bunch for posting so much infomation here, I really haven't been keeping up too much on Magic the past year and a half or so and last I saw the counterfeits were still really crude and easy to tell. Appreciate knowing that I should really just check every card I get.

Really am kind of surprised to see them going for Unhinged lands. And the Italian thing is pretty strange as well, especially since it doesn't seem to be many Legends cards.

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Wasn't too much, but they had all unlimited:

Scrubland
Wheel of fortune
Mahamoti djinn x2
Demonic hordes
Howling mine

All looked nm and i was real excited at very fair prices, but i asked to see them out of sleeve to make sure they were nm and make sure the backs were in good shape. Upon inspection, i noticed the wheel has a thin horizontal line all the way across the card about 1/3 the way down. I was bummed it wasn't nm. Upon inspection of the others i wanted to purchase, i noticed the same line existed and some had the line about 2/3 down the card as well. Some faintly visible on the back, but all on the front.

All passed the bend test and light test, but felt maybe ever so slightly flemsier. May actually be normal, i was just very skeptical at the time after seeing the line. It sounds like a dead fake, but they looked to real its crazy (they may actually be). I talked to the owner and he wants to bring them to a friend to check further into it. Says a guy sold them all in a collection he had and also had legends booster and the dark boosters, all loose (not sealed). Some poor guy bought all 7 legends packs for $150 each and the best thing he got was a single chain lightning. Im guessing he packs have been searched.

Owner said the same guy sold an alpha set at gencon for $35,000.

If these turn out to be fake, i am scarcely worried for older magic cards. I'd love to save hundreds buying moxes and arabians on ebay rather than online retailers who up charge an unrealistic amount, but don't think I can pull the trigger anymore. Really sucks, was so stoked when I heard about this old school format. Its everything i want magic to be again, but how can I spend thousands and trust it?

The line on these cards can best be described like this, if you took a pen and drew a line across the card using a ruler, but the pen had no ink. It is just the indention.

magic unlimited set horizontal line

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The first is terrible, and I even waited FOUR MONTHS for it, with the guy "Not knowing what happened" and this one that I received being "third generation with higher quality". It is total poop, so there's no way to be fooled by these, thankfully. Art details are good, but the colors are WAY too dark, there is a film over the card that feels like the scotch tape you can write on, and the cardstock is super thin.

The second is making things start to be more worrisome, to be honest. Art details are crystal clear, comparing it to other blue cards of the same era shows that colors are accurate. The card is super glossy though, kind of like supplemental cards. It "pops" like a real card, and the thickness is similar. I've got it side by side with a Benthic Explorers, and...yikes. The front is damn near 100%, other than the gloss. I don't have a real Force to compare it to. Someone should send them to me if they use Pucatrade. :P

On the back, the black border is WAY too dark, as Ice Age/Alliances had odd, faded borders. Colors are too saturated. The mana orbs are blurry. The Deckmaster logo is much more clear and defined on the fake, which is odd.

It does not pass the light test. It's letting almost nothing through. I have to hold it right against the dual LED's on my phone to get light to pass through.