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Originally posted by PlasteredDragon:
I realize I'm dead but just as a point of order, if the cits lynch the wrong person, there is still the possibility of getting one more lynch if the angel makes a save. So nobody blurt out what your role is after the lynch--wait for the wolf kill.

{SUMMARY: Game does not end with a bad lynch this round, only ends if the angel fails to make a save.}

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I am perfectly aware of this, PD. However, this only holds true if the angel survives this round's lynching.

Bernie you have voted for me most of the game. Why the switch now? Easy to jump on Liq's bandwagon seeing most of everyone is going to too? Real easy for a wolf to hide there. If you thought I was also a wolf wouldn't you stick to your guns and try to persuade people?

People let's not look into Liq being alive as he has to be a wolf. We made the same mistake with GLE.

Voting Bernie

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Originally posted by Bernek77:
I don't like the Liq lynch. It' too easy. IMO I Think the last two wolves are BernieB and Masterwolf. Last lynch I didn't get why it was xplicitr especially after earlier when I tried to go after him most of you were against it then you went with it.

Bernie you have voted for me most of the game. Why the switch now? Easy to jump on Liq's bandwagon seeing most of everyone is going to too? Real easy for a wolf to hide there. If you thought I was also a wolf wouldn't you stick to your guns and try to persuade people?

People let's not look into Liq being alive as he has to be a wolf. We made the same mistake with GLE.

Voting Bernie

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I don't like the Almaster vote right now since he all but said straight up that he's the angel. This negates the Thanos pile.

Remember that we are in the final day. We need cooperation. If you are stubborn about it and go your own way, we'll lose straight up.

And why is it so hard to comprehend that maybe BernieB realizes that Liq just slunk into the background after coming out strong. This isn't the same as the GLE suspicion. Liq is being legitamately suspicious. I'm not suspecting him because he's Liq. I'm suspecting him because he's Liq and and he's hiding.

I strongly suggest you vote Liq as well. My vote has been submitted. Let's not do this whole early thing since we remember what happened last time this hgappened.

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Originally posted by puregoblinboy47:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Bernek77:
I don't like the Liq lynch. It' too easy. IMO I Think the last two wolves are BernieB and Masterwolf. Last lynch I didn't get why it was xplicitr especially after earlier when I tried to go after him most of you were against it then you went with it.

Bernie you have voted for me most of the game. Why the switch now? Easy to jump on Liq's bandwagon seeing most of everyone is going to too? Real easy for a wolf to hide there. If you thought I was also a wolf wouldn't you stick to your guns and try to persuade people?

People let's not look into Liq being alive as he has to be a wolf. We made the same mistake with GLE.

Voting Bernie

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PGB I agree with your thinking, however I don't understand how people could think he has been hiding. He has posted like normal Liq and it has been mentioned repeatedly about him still being in the game. All of a sudden now people are gonna go OMG Liq is till in the game. Come on now I don't buy it! We have 6 people here. If we vote Liq and he turns out to be a villager we have to pray that the Angel makes the right play next round. Which is guess right!

If you want my cooperation and vote for Liq then I will be willing to. But, if were wrong and the Angel makes the right play next round will you be with me and vote for Bernie? Cuz as it is, it basically comes down to 3 people if Almaster just basically spelled out he is the Angel. Liq, Bernie and Masterwolf.

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That being said, I strongly agree with PGB on the Liq issue for a couple of reasons.

1) If Liq is a citizen, he's doing a terrible job of being one. He has barely said anything except vote BernieB, which in my opinion could easily be Liq throwing Bernie under the bus and using it as insurance for the final rounds. There has been little contribution from Liq.

2) Liq as a wolf is statistically not unreasonable. Right now, in the eyes of every citizen other than PGB, there is a 50% chance Liq is a wolf (you know your identity as well as PGB's, leaving 4 unknowns). There is a significant chance of Liq being a wolf.

3) The "it's too easy" argument doesn't hold much water. Liq could easily be playing on this argument as a wolf just as easily as the other wolves could be playing Liq. And once again, if Liq is indeed a citizen, why isn't he contributing more to the game?

But, the game has changed. Assuming he's telling the truth, we have 2 confirmed cits, and then 2 wolves among 4 people. Since we know for a fact that PGB is a cit, I suggest we all just vote however he votes for the remaining rounds. It forces us to live or die by PGB's choice, but it'll prevent the wolves from fixing the vote in their favor. Changing my vote to Liq.

Remember, Unity is the only way we win right now.

Changed to Liq

Well how I see it is that is 5 votes for Liq

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Originally posted by puregoblinboy47:
I'm suspecting him because he's Liq and and he's hiding.

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I haven't been hiding. I've been thinking. It was quite evident to me that the wolves would push for my death this round because I shouldn't be around for this long. Every time I am alive to this point, I somehow fumble the ball and lose it for the cits. The last time I remember being to this point was in Mafia 26 where I presented the "No Mafia Vote" strategy in which I pretty much deflected all attention from the last remaining mafia member.

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Originally posted by AlmasterGM:
if Liq is indeed a citizen, why isn't he contributing more to the game?

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I'm been waiting to see which wolf would make the move against me. Unfortunately it was PGB who went for me first. The one of two players I don't think are wolves.

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Originally posted by BernieB:
Liq is too good of a player to still be alive if he were not a wolf, I am voting Liq.

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I want each villager to take the time to think of the last time they remember me surviving to this point.

Now I want you to think of the amount of games you've played with me and how much suspicion comes to me naturally.

Why is it that I'm always suspected?

Simple answer : I've played that way before as Mafia.

The problem that arises for me each game is that I can not defend myself in any hypothetical situation. Its not a matter of if, could, or would I do that, its the fact that I have done it before. There is a record of me acting that way or making that move before.

This is why I've been quieter since PD's removal by the wolves. To not allow the wolves anything to twist. I had suspected at the time that they were going to use me for their end game. Who better than me who is by nature suspicious?

Vote me if you want to rely on an Angel Save. Otherwise we have wolves to find.

My suspicions still lie with BernieB.

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PLAYER            R01  R02  R03  R04  R05  GRP  STA
================  ===  ===  ===  ===  ===  ===  ===
MasterWolf        AGM  ---  GLE  GLE  XPR   1    A
Bernek77          BOT  XPR  BUG  PD   BB    2    A
BernieB           PGB  PGB  B77  B77  XPR   3    A
Liq               PD   JSP  BUG  BB   BB    3    A
AlmasterGM        THA  PGB  GLE  GLE  XPR   4    A
puregoblinboy47   THA  JSP  BUG  GLE  XPR   4    A
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ThoughtsofLepers  BOT  XPR  BUG  GLE  ---   C    E
XplicitR          THA  JSP  B77  GLE  BB    C    L
PlasteredDragon   BOT  JSP  GLE  GLE        C    E
GottaLoveElves    THA  THA  B77  PD         C    L
fwybwed           AGM  BUG  BUG             C    E
Bugger            JSP  JSP  B77             C    L
Thanos            BOT  JSP                  S    E
JackSpade         BOT  BUG                  C    L
Jazaray           BOT                       C    E
Battle_of_Twits   THA                       W    L
ryan2754                                    C    E

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He placed the 4th vote for XPR in order to prevent his own lynch.

Then he votes with PGB because PGB is the "confirmed cit".

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Originally posted by puregoblinboy47:
Liq's still alive?

I'll be voting for Liq this round.

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Originally posted by BernieB:
Liq is too good of a player to still be alive if he were not a wolf, I am voting Liq.

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With that being said however if you do turn out to be a wolf I think we have this game in the bag.

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Good thing too, as he was a Werewolf. Last wolf, you're the leader now...obv.

Names due asap!

~MM

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My feelings expressed, I now return fitfully to rest...

Thanks,
Jazaray

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Alright citizens, two down, one more to go. There is only one chance to get it right, so don't mess up. We can do this! However, since I might not make it through the night, here are my thoughts now.

I don't really suspect Bernek and PGB is considered a citizen. That leaves MasterWolf and BernieB. I think these two players can be boiled down into two basic actions.

1) MasterWolf's questioning of Liq a while back.
2) Liq consistent suspicion of BernieB.

Both of those players remain in the game. I am positive Liq instructed one of them to make their respective posts. The question is just who. I think it's number 2 and that Bernie is the final wolf. Here's why.

1) Liq thinks he's better than everyone else, and he probably considers himself significantly better than both MasterWolf and Bernie. This in mind, I doubt Liq would trust either of them to make the play (especially considering MW's computer issues) - he would most likely want to do it himself. This rules out option number one because it involves MW making the play, not Liq. Bernie as the wolf, on the other hand, puts Liq in the manipulator's driver's seat.

2) Bernie switched his vote left and right during the XPR round. Normally, Bernie picks one target and stays with it until either he or the target is eliminated. Suddenly, however, his ENTIRE M.O. changes.

3) Liq has consistently suspected Bernie. He probably planned to use that as insurance should Bernie get nailed before he did. MasterWolf's suspicion of Liq, on the other hand, was fairly weak, and Liq didn't really suspect MasterWolf at all. Liq's willingness to put himself and probably another wolf in the random pile during a BOT wagon shows that he is willing to TAKE RISKS. It would NOT be against Liq's playstile to openly throw BernieB under the bus.

To be fair, I was totally wrong about XPR, so feel free to take or leave my advice. Just pick a target and unify on it.

Masterwolf and BernieB

It could be almost said that the angel has made his presence known. IDK if that was smart as now you are at a conflicted moment. Had you not said it, there would be a 4th villager in the mix. With that being said, try thinking like a wolf and try to figure out where he would try to make his victim. We need you to win this game but, you may have hung yourself for the good of the cause. I hope not!

My issue is the 2 above were my number 1 and number 2 suspect. Which one do we believe? Bernie jumping around in round 1. Out of a pile and into a Random vote. He is my number 1 up to this point.

Or do we go after MW. Who's play has not been all that consistant also.

If I survive the night phase I will be gunning for Bernie! Hi Bernie!

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First of all, Bernek is not cleared. I'm taking Almaster's claim there with a grain of salt. Not that I'm sure Bernek is a WW, but I feel uncertain about him.

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Originally posted by puregoblinboy47:
It's pretty clear who the angel is at this point, and that can be a good thing. Even the final WW (should) know and he may be taking a guessing game which gives us a good 50% chance we may hit a save.(run on sentence, sue me). Up to you angel on if you want to do anything differently.

First of all, Bernek is not cleared. I'm taking Almaster's claim there with a grain of salt. Not that I'm sure Bernek is a WW, but I feel uncertain about him.

Been a rough day for me(see PFS) so I won't be able to make a substantive post until later tomorrow. Hopefully it's before the kill and I'm still alive.

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Bro glad to hear you are alive.

On another note, you are correct, I have never been officially cleared. My heatedness in the beginning with the whole Thanos debacle was due to we had a pass when they didn't take him out. Had the Angel did his job can you imagine having thanos and the Angel this far in the game? Yeah I lost my temper for that and I am sorry for that.

I tried changing my game play but it got me killed B2B games saying it was suspicious. So what am I to do. Changing my game style makes me suspicious and my play annoys people.

I was wrong about a few people and so where others. I am one person that trusts Liq, GLE and PGB's play as they are among the better players. I didn't see Liq as suspicious but he double bluffed me. It was a very nice play.

However, seeing Bernie's last post:

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Originally posted by BernieB:
YES! Ok, 2 down and AlmasterGM to go.

edit: Hi Bernek!

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Was the Hi Bernek! really the edit, or was there more there that he didn't want us to see. He changed his vote in the beginning out of the piles and went random. Seeing as he is a very low-profile player that usually stays quiet it's able to make him get a pass through to the end in a lot of games. His voting patterns are off this game. And why Almaster? I feel as though he is trying to set up the wolf night phase and go from there.

However I am still worried about Masterwolf. We haven't heard much from him lately and usually by now he should have a lot more to say.

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Liq is dead, so that leaves us one more. We have 2 confirmed cits, so I feel like our chances are very very good right now. We're lucky that PGB was right. I think the angel is gonna bite the dust sadly.

Villagers, your votes are due Thursday night.

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Originally posted by BernieB:
Whoa, I thought for sure that Almaster was the last wolf. This means that either Bernek or MasterWolf is the final werewolf. I am thinking Bernek.
Why? I am looking at the votes, he and Liq were really pushing to lynch me in round 5, his votes have been all over the board, he has not voted for the same person twice, he is a werewolf.
Why not MasterWolf? One thing that stands out isthat he missed a vote, no wolf would do that.
Why not me? Liq was really pushing to lynch my in rounds 4 and 5, that says something, I think. Plus I know I am not a hairy.
{voting Bernek}

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Really? You were sure he was a wolf after he basically TOLD us he was the angel?