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Gotta love Tom Martell thinking he can throw his weight around in here... if it even really is him.

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Originally posted by airwalk:
I wouldn't find it insane if Ebay didn't have the cards available right now or I couldn't get everything I wanted from a single seller and combine shipping making it less expensive to buy from one person on MOTL as opposed to multiple on E-bay.

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Originally posted by Tranderas:
There's a lot of weight there to throw around #zing #wishicouldpunlikeLSV

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Then please add me to your speed dial and let me know of any cards you'd like to pay more than ebay buyitnow prices for. I'll ship them out sameday at ebay+5%.

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Originally posted by AlmostGrown:
It really is great to see how our loving community welcomes a new member.

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Yup, we are all so accepting and loving.

Also least we are not Salv :P

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Originally posted by AlmostGrown:
It really is great to see how our loving community welcomes a new member.

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You remember your welcoming AG?

Thanks,
Jazaray

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Yup, we are all so accepting and loving.

Also least we are not Salv :P

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Originally posted by AtriumXP:
I'm not trying to defend a bold statement like that ($2k -> $18k), but I can tell you that I started with around $1k in cards and about $200 cash and through sales, purchases, and trades, I've been able to make a modest profit. I've probably turned it into a few grand myself and probably not trying that hard. Do I think $18k is a tough number to swallow? Yeah, but I probably wouldn't scoff at $10k, given the kind of buying power that $1,000 in PayPal funds allows a savvy buyer.

Case in point, I've bought more than one set of Revised for about $500 and flipped just the duals for more than that. Pretty nice chunk right there... two such deals practically pays for another outright. Buying up a few booster boxes sub-retail and getting lucky (as I did with hunting Jace 2.0) and selling key cards at their height of Standard inflation... again, not $18k material, but you can make another nice chunk doing that.

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Revenger, if you have any specific questions I'm happy to answer them via e-mail. But I don't know if it warrants anything hugely detailed--it's basically full-time sourcing for deals like the above-mentioned because I was either unemployed or doing part-time contract work during those 8 months. Local collections are HUGE potential profits--you have to be a little lucky, but they're great. The very first thing I bought was a collection for $400 and it turned out to be worth somewhere around $1,500 worth of stuff, with more than half of it being staples that could be flipped within 1-2 weeks. Outside of that, you're basically looking at all hours of the day/night for deals on eBay. I can't count the number of duals I picked up at about 80% of their value. For example, even just an EX condition USea that gets put up at $75-80 BIN I'll snap up and then re-sell it for $95-100. Individually, not a huge profit, but you aggregate enough of it and it is.

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Originally posted by AlmostGrown:
Hahaha you got that right. Getting back on topic, is it safe to just throw out old cell phones?

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Well, you can just bring them into Staples or Best Buy.. they have receptacles for them so they can be disposed of properly. Although, some sites out there will pay you money for your old cell phone, depending on just how old.

Thanks,
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Many wished to have what she has,
A delicate face,
A soft warm embrace,
And a whole lot of bedroom pizzazz.

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Originally posted by AlmostGrown:
It really is great to see how our loving community welcomes a new member.

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I'll be sure to show you more love this Friday...

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Originally posted by AlmostGrown:
Hahaha you got that right. Getting back on topic, is it safe to just throw out old cell phones?

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Originally posted by Bagbokk:
Revenger, if you have any specific questions I'm happy to answer them via e-mail. But I don't know if it warrants anything hugely detailed--it's basically full-time sourcing for deals like the above-mentioned because I was either unemployed or doing part-time contract work during those 8 months. Local collections are HUGE potential profits--you have to be a little lucky, but they're great. The very first thing I bought was a collection for $400 and it turned out to be worth somewhere around $1,500 worth of stuff, with more than half of it being staples that could be flipped within 1-2 weeks. Outside of that, you're basically looking at all hours of the day/night for deals on eBay. I can't count the number of duals I picked up at about 80% of their value. For example, even just an EX condition USea that gets put up at $75-80 BIN I'll snap up and then re-sell it for $95-100. Individually, not a huge profit, but you aggregate enough of it and it is.

The $18k isn't exaggerated, but it's largely due to the last collection I bought. It was about $12k worth of cards for $7k so it increased the final number by 5k by itself. Without it, I started with $2k and ended up with $13k over 8 months. That number probably sounds more reasonable to you guys. Most of the time collections are much smaller, but once in a while such a big collection does come around legitimately. I don't mean to turn this into a bragging post by any means, but I think a lot of people who look for collections to buy generally have some story about how they bought some collection for $xx that turned out to be worth a lot more than $xx.

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How do you find these though? I mean, do you really just sit and watch Ebay? How do you find local deals? Just hanging out at your LGS? How did you get started with this?

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I'll be sure to show you more love this Friday...

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Pics please.

Thanks,
Jazaray

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There was a nice lassie named Jaz
Many wished to have what she has,
A delicate face,
A soft warm embrace,
And a whole lot of bedroom pizzazz.

WeedIan: Jazaray is like MOTL's Mom.

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It really is great to see how our loving community welcomes a new member.

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Originally posted by Lord Crovax:
Yup, we are all so accepting and loving.

Also least we are not Salv :P

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Originally posted by AtriumXP:
Welcome to MOTL, Tom

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Originally posted by Bagbokk:
Revenger, if you have any specific questions I'm happy to answer them via e-mail. But I don't know if it warrants anything hugely detailed--it's basically full-time sourcing for deals like the above-mentioned because I was either unemployed or doing part-time contract work during those 8 months. Local collections are HUGE potential profits--you have to be a little lucky, but they're great. The very first thing I bought was a collection for $400 and it turned out to be worth somewhere around $1,500 worth of stuff, with more than half of it being staples that could be flipped within 1-2 weeks. Outside of that, you're basically looking at all hours of the day/night for deals on eBay. I can't count the number of duals I picked up at about 80% of their value. For example, even just an EX condition USea that gets put up at $75-80 BIN I'll snap up and then re-sell it for $95-100. Individually, not a huge profit, but you aggregate enough of it and it is.

The $18k isn't exaggerated, but it's largely due to the last collection I bought. It was about $12k worth of cards for $7k so it increased the final number by 5k by itself. Without it, I started with $2k and ended up with $13k over 8 months. That number probably sounds more reasonable to you guys. Most of the time collections are much smaller, but once in a while such a big collection does come around legitimately. I don't mean to turn this into a bragging post by any means, but I think a lot of people who look for collections to buy generally have some story about how they bought some collection for $xx that turned out to be worth a lot more than $xx.

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Yea, started doing this some recently.

Still working out efficient ways to get stuff done.

and working on getting rid of the habit of getting attached to stuff....this seems to be the hard one :P...

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Pics please.

Thanks,
Jazaray

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How do you find these though? I mean, do you really just sit and watch Ebay? How do you find local deals? Just hanging out at your LGS? How did you get started with this?

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Originally posted by Jazaray:
How do you find these though? I mean, do you really just sit and watch Ebay? How do you find local deals? Just hanging out at your LGS? How did you get started with this?

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If you live somewhat close to a large city, craigslist is the first place to look. Put up a "wanted" ad for MTG cards. It often won't be immediate but you'll get people that e-mail you with random collections. Sometimes it'll be people looking for SCG prices on their stuff. Sometimes it'll be people with 1000 cards that are all worthless commons and uncommons. But sometimes, it'll be people with legitimate collections and will either sell it for 15-30% off, or people that just say "make me an offer." That's how I got both collections I posted about.

(Edit: I actually didn't have a LGS around where I lived before while I was doing this, but that's certainly another option.)

The good thing about that is that if you're close enough you can always go inspect the collection first. So sometimes you can hold off on giving an offer until you know what's in it.

And you don't literally have to sit and watch eBay 24/7 but it does help to do it a lot. I basically do two searches. One for auctions-only ending above >$5 on that day. I'll watch anything that's obviously underpriced, so let's say if a Revised set (with duals) only has a $400 bid I'll watch it until the last second and put in a $500 bid. The other search is for newly-listed BINs, this is a search you just refresh every so often. If you do it enough you'll get lucky with something eventually. For specific examples, I remember someone putting up a bunch of duals and they were just all $50 each. This included Plateaus and Badlands, but also included USeas, Trops and Tundras. So I just ignore the overpriced ones and picked up the good ones at $50/ea. I know I also picked up a NM- Mishra's Workshop for $225 or something and flipped that.

Edit: I'll also add that one of the bigger things I had to remember while doing this was that the small stuff are actually the constant profits. I bought a ton of ZEN fetches, Mesas/Flats/Catacombs at $24/playset and Tarns/Mistys at about $36/playset. Re-sold for $30-34/set and $44-48/set respectively. $5-10 profit per set, but it adds up. I aimed for $100-200 a week in such constant profits and once every month or two one lucky collection will come around.

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You remember your welcoming AG?

Thanks,
Jazaray

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Originally posted by AtriumXP:
I'm not trying to defend a bold statement like that ($2k -> $18k), but I can tell you that I started with around $1k in cards and about $200 cash and through sales, purchases, and trades, I've been able to make a modest profit. I've probably turned it into a few grand myself and probably not trying that hard. Do I think $18k is a tough number to swallow? Yeah, but I probably wouldn't scoff at $10k, given the kind of buying power that $1,000 in PayPal funds allows a savvy buyer.

Case in point, I've bought more than one set of Revised for about $500 and flipped just the duals for more than that. Pretty nice chunk right there... two such deals practically pays for another outright. Buying up a few booster boxes sub-retail and getting lucky (as I did with hunting Jace 2.0) and selling key cards at their height of Standard inflation... again, not $18k material, but you can make another nice chunk doing that.

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Please enlighten me. My collection is worth approx $100, have no funds to make it better, and I do not see how you really can make a profit without getting lucky, such as buying a revised set for $250 or so, and selling singles to make a profit. Please contact me on how to.

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It really is great to see how our loving community welcomes a new member.

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Um, Granted it's a new member, but from what I have seen, it's more or less Seller Beware.. My thoughts are simply, 0 refs, buylist is very very low on cards, refused to send first. Sorry, but for the new member, good luck.

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Originally posted by Jazaray:
You remember your welcoming AG?

Thanks,
Jazaray

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Who is AG?

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Originally posted by Bagbokk:
Revenger, if you have any specific questions I'm happy to answer them via e-mail. But I don't know if it warrants anything hugely detailed--it's basically full-time sourcing for deals like the above-mentioned because I was either unemployed or doing part-time contract work during those 8 months. Local collections are HUGE potential profits--you have to be a little lucky, but they're great. The very first thing I bought was a collection for $400 and it turned out to be worth somewhere around $1,500 worth of stuff, with more than half of it being staples that could be flipped within 1-2 weeks. Outside of that, you're basically looking at all hours of the day/night for deals on eBay. I can't count the number of duals I picked up at about 80% of their value. For example, even just an EX condition USea that gets put up at $75-80 BIN I'll snap up and then re-sell it for $95-100. Individually, not a huge profit, but you aggregate enough of it and it is.

The $18k isn't exaggerated, but it's largely due to the last collection I bought. It was about $12k worth of cards for $7k so it increased the final number by 5k by itself. Without it, I started with $2k and ended up with $13k over 8 months. That number probably sounds more reasonable to you guys. Most of the time collections are much smaller, but once in a while such a big collection does come around legitimately. I don't mean to turn this into a bragging post by any means, but I think a lot of people who look for collections to buy generally have some story about how they bought some collection for $xx that turned out to be worth a lot more than $xx.

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So what your saying is I spend 1k to make $50? In order to sell singles and whatnot. Plus, I have no source of income, thus I cannot just simply buy a collection and turn a profit on it. and as a bonus, there is NO lgs here in this freaking town, and no players save a select few. This would all be done on the net correct? Btw, look at the craigslist for Kingman, Arizona and you will see what I mean. I would have to travel to Fort Mohave, and hour drive to look at a collection. Ugh. Ack.

I mean, I am starting with nothing...I just want to build it up like someone who has done it before, you.

and Yes, please email details on what to look for. Ebay, sites, tournaments etc.

Thanks!

EDITED: Spelling errors. :P

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For example, I've posted here about the Goodwill auction site before, which absolutely deals in Magic cards fairly regularly.

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Got a link to this site? especially if it deals with Magic fairly regular.

~Revenger

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Originally posted by revenger:
Please enlighten me. My collection is worth approx $100, have no funds to make it better, and I do not see how you really can make a profit without getting lucky, suck as buying a revised set for $250 or so, and selling singles to make a profit. Please contact me on how to.

Um, Granted it's a new member, but from what I have seen, it's more or less Seller Beware.. My thoughts are simply, 0 refs, buylist is very very low on cards, refused to send first. Sorry, but for the new member, good luck.

Who is AG?

So what your saying is I spend 1k to make $50? In order to sell singles and whatnot. Plus, I have no source of income, thus I cannot just simply buy a collection and turn a profit on it. and as a bonus, there is NO lgs here in this freaking town, and no players save a select few. This would all be done on the net correct? Btw, look at the craigslist for Kingman, Arizona and you will see what I mean. I would have to travel to Fort Mohave, and hour drive to look at a collection. Ugh. Ack.

I mean, I am starting with nothing...I just want to build it up like someone who has done it before, you.

and Yes, please email details on what to look for. Ebay, sites, tournaments etc.

Thanks!

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Hmm, if you have nothing but what cards you own, then yes, I'd probably go through what you have, price it out to get some starting funds, and go from there.

for Craigslist, deal over the phone to determine if its worth driving out to.

Ask around, be surprised what you can learn from just that, yard sales, flea markets, etc are obvious answers but good ones all the same.

I got my last two collections from just asking around, even asking local thrift stores if they ever get magic in, might get a employee who has some themselves. (I've actually done this)...

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Originally posted by revenger:
Got a link to this site? especially if it deals with Magic fairly regular.

~Revenger

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Sure thing. Main site: http://www.shopgoodwill.com/

Just search for "Magic Gathering" and happy bidding.

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I clearly said you have to start with something to get it going. I'm going to assume you're just trolling me a bit

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I was typing out my long rant. I am not trolling you. I only troll Revenger or rvngrsgrl76 on motl. :P

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