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Winning! Updated the Cube!

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quote:
Originally posted by Volcanon:
Yeah, aside from stuff i get in draft, I keep about a year behind in terms of power rares cuz I don't want to burn of a lot of money on stuff that won't hold it's value.

Titans are so above the curve they are even kinda unfair in cube. Though it depends on if you want "balanced, but strong" or "who can legally cheat the best"?



I like my cube to powerful and fun, If i was able to make nice looking Proxy Power I'd put it in but for now its powerless.


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[Edited 2 times, lastly by WeedIan on April 09, 2011]

 
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I need to try cube, but I had drafting


bleh.


Onward to EDH!

 
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Anybody know of any other green cards that tap for 2 mana (green) like Greenweaver Druid?


...Fyndhorn Elder...Derp

[Edited 1 times, lastly by Skwirlnutz on April 10, 2011]

 
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quote:
Originally posted by Skwirlnutz:
Anybody know of any other green cards that tap for 2 mana (green) like Greenweaver Druid?


...Fyndhorn Elder...Derp


Joraga Treespeaker. That card is nuts in my common/uncommon Cube. If you want to get better at drafting, build an all common or common/uncommon Cube. So many lessons there and tons of fun to boot.

Anyway, Priest of Titania and Rofellos can technically produce GG too.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by WeedIan:
If i was able to make nice looking Proxy Power I'd put it in but for now its powerless.


collectors edition looks great sleeved up. Also, I'd sure you wouldn't get people complaining if you printed up some foil power or something. it supposed to be a fun format. For the longest time I used a gold bordered Wrath of God until I picked up a foil one (I think its 8th). For me, I found the best thing to do is just make sure people know what cards do by having their text on them in English. Beyond that, any form of proxy following that formula should work.

Cadaver Imp, Gravedigger Zombie Cutthroat are all fairly bad cards. The zombie got cut because no one would even play it. Hes not that aggressive. A 3/4 for 3 mana is what I'd expect you to cast out of the cube. The life loss just makes it worse then your other options. The imp and gravedigger are far too slow. A 1/1 flier for 3 mana isn't impressive nor is a good creature that makes you wait a whole turn to cast it after you get it. Its unlikely that you'll pull anything back thats really good and cast it in the same turn. I'd say its better to just play a good creature in the slot of those cards and skip the middle man.

[Edited 1 times, lastly by caquaa on April 10, 2011]

 
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quote:
Originally posted by AlmostGrown:

If you're willing to break it, I'm interested in 1.


They're MTGO cards, not physical ones, I do not pick up physical t2 nowadays.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by caquaa:
collectors edition looks great sleeved up. Also, I'd sure you wouldn't get people complaining if you printed up some foil power or something. it supposed to be a fun format. For the longest time I used a gold bordered Wrath of God until I picked up a foil one (I think its 8th). For me, I found the best thing to do is just make sure people know what cards do by having their text on them in English. Beyond that, any form of proxy following that formula should work.

Cadaver Imp, Gravedigger Zombie Cutthroat are all fairly bad cards. The zombie got cut because no one would even play it. Hes not that aggressive. A 3/4 for 3 mana is what I'd expect you to cast out of the cube. The life loss just makes it worse then your other options. The imp and gravedigger are far too slow. A 1/1 flier for 3 mana isn't impressive nor is a good creature that makes you wait a whole turn to cast it after you get it. Its unlikely that you'll pull anything back thats really good and cast it in the same turn. I'd say its better to just play a good creature in the slot of those cards and skip the middle man.


They Combo with good things which is why i like them, and they always seem to get played by people when we cube.

Does any one remember which rebels are good off hand, i remember an older cube having Lin Sivi in it along with 5 or 6 rebels but maybe my cube will be too big to put that sort of thing in.

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quote:
Originally posted by WeedIan:
They Combo with good things which is why i like them, and they always seem to get played by people when we cube.

Does any one remember which rebels are good off hand, i remember an older cube having Lin Sivi in it along with 5 or 6 rebels but maybe my cube will be too big to put that sort of thing in.


The only one I can think of off hand is the Pacifism with the rebel subtype.

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more or less any rebel that costs 4 or less is kewl.

http://www.starcitygames.com/magic/misc/544_CounterRebel.html

 
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oh. remember the tapping rebel with morph.
 
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Surgical Extraction = awesome.... I'm happy to play black again
 
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Yea, turn 1 Thoughtseize/Duress + Surgical Extraction is kinda nasty. Combo and dredge will surely be weakened?
 
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quote:
Originally posted by JensK:
Yea, turn 1 Thoughtseize/Duress + Surgical Extraction is kinda nasty. Combo and dredge will surely be weakened?

Would rather pay the 1 mana for an uncountable version. yes it is strong.

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Free Extirpate? UWb Caw-Blade just got better.

Top 8 at GP Dallas:
1-U/W Caw-Blade
2-RUG
3-RUG
4-U/W Caw-Blade
5-RUG
6-U/W Caw-Blade
7-RUG
8-U/W Caw-Blade

How diverse is standard right now?

 
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quote:
Originally posted by Heresy19:
Surgical Extraction = awesome.... I'm happy to play black again

I'm happy to use it anywhere. Keep in mind it's black, but black mana is not a requirement.

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somehow found this:

http://jnorad.blogspot.com/2010_10_01_archive.html

note how everything is build from magic cards.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by WeedIan:
Would rather pay the 1 mana for an uncountable version. yes it is strong.


Yeah but Extirpate can't be played in a mono green deck, this one can

 
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quote:
Originally posted by Heresy19:
Surgical Extraction = awesome.... I'm happy to play black again

The art on the promo is awful, why the hell is the skull so huge? The card does seem quite useful though.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by skizzikmonger:
Free Extirpate? UWb Caw-Blade just got better.

Top 8 at GP Dallas:
1-U/W Caw-Blade
2-RUG
3-RUG
4-U/W Caw-Blade
5-RUG
6-U/W Caw-Blade
7-RUG
8-U/W Caw-Blade

How diverse is standard right now?


I love this. Every year, the same complaint. There's ALWAYS a standard boogeyman that emerges around this time. Last year it was jund, before that 5 color control, before that Faeries. The meta will stay stagnant with a couple tier 1 decks popping up after NPH and M12 but caw-blade will remain dominant until rotation.

 
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Originally posted by Bugger:
I love this. Every year, the same complaint. There's ALWAYS a standard boogeyman that emerges around this time. Last year it was jund, before that 5 color control, before that Faeries. The meta will stay stagnant with a couple tier 1 decks popping up after NPH and M12 but caw-blade will remain dominant until rotation.

Yeah, I agree with you. I played in GP Dallas too, and I had only a choice of CawBlade, or something that beats CawBlade (RUG). I went with a tricked out RUG but screwed up the last round of Day 1.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by gaeacradle:
Yeah, I agree with you. I played in GP Dallas too, and I had only a choice of CawBlade, or something that beats CawBlade (RUG). I went with a tricked out RUG but screwed up the last round of Day 1.

Actually, my point was that its not the huge unexpected demon everyone always seems to get caught off guard with. As though its unprecedented that there would ever be a dominant deck in a format. In any pool of cards there will invariably emerge the Top Deck, and the only thing that changes it is introducing or removing cards from the format. This is true of literally every format for all of magic history.

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quote:
Originally posted by skizzikmonger:
Free Extirpate? UWb Caw-Blade just got better.

Top 8 at GP Dallas:
1-U/W Caw-Blade
2-RUG
3-RUG
4-U/W Caw-Blade
5-RUG
6-U/W Caw-Blade
7-RUG
8-U/W Caw-Blade

How diverse is standard right now?


4 jace in every deck also

 
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The current standard is pretty healthy. The major difference between caw-blade/RUG dominating Dallas than Jund dominating last year is, the winning decks in the current standard relied on out tech-ing (if that is a word) their opponents, while Jund relied on a mechanic that was second to none during its era.

It is much easier to counter a tech than a whole mechanic, and that is why you have different winning decks every now and then, and different version of caw blade every month.

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quote:
Originally posted by AlmostGrown:
The only one I can think of off hand is the Pacifism with the rebel subtype.


Chameleon colossus and the 2W changeling who makes your guys X/X is good too. A like me some whipcorder too.

Lin Sivvi makes all of your other rebels never dead.

Depends on what kind of cube you want to build for the rest.

There's a 4/7 vigilance for 6 and a 3/3 flying for 5. Cho manno is alright. There's pleny of okay changelings and whatnot. Just search it on gatherer. People could theoretically pull off the life combo with task force and whatnot.

 
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