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thror
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quote:
Originally posted by joz:
Isn't america red, white, blue and =/= green ?


sure, but the deck 'Team America' is black, blue, green. It's legacy, deal with it.

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So I just starting playing MTGOnline and I am playing mainly in the casual room playing classic.

I am running an extended legal r/g haste deck that has won about 15 of 20 matches that actually go more than 3 turns.

My question is why do i have so many people see that I am playing a deck w/ haste creatures and concede. Is there some sort of unwritten rule that I missed?

I have even had a few people insult me with something along the lines of "Learn to build a real deck child".

Thanks for any input.
Tim

 
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quote:
Originally posted by pugowar:
So I just starting playing MTGOnline and I am playing mainly in the casual room playing classic.

I am running an extended legal r/g haste deck that has won about 15 of 20 matches that actually go more than 3 turns.

My question is why do i have so many people see that I am playing a deck w/ haste creatures and concede. Is there some sort of unwritten rule that I missed?

I have even had a few people insult me with something along the lines of "Learn to build a real deck child".

Thanks for any input.
Tim


Main reason I'll never play casual MTGO is people + internet = bad...

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That was interesting. A deck with blue and no FoWs, and a Hive Mind in the finals. Trippy.

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quote:
Originally posted by potaguitar:
trying to put together a non-netdecked team america list with some efficient beaters. Anybody have any ideas? Possibilities include:

Trygon Predator
Thrun
?? I know there must be lots



I'm not sure I quite understand your goal: in what respects do you want it to resemble TA, and in what respects do you want it to differ (viz., be 'non-net-decked')? Are you preserving the deck's tempo core? Also, are you looking for completely unconventional creature choices, or something more along the lines of budget replacements?

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quote:
Originally posted by potaguitar:
trying to put together a non-netdecked team america list with some efficient beaters. Anybody have any ideas? Possibilities include:

Trygon Predator
Thrun
?? I know there must be lots


Goyf says hi

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Thank you for the suggestions guys. I have just begun trying to understand the interactions between the cards in TA that generates a large tempo advantage. In tournament play, the deck runs the most efficient of creatures ('goyfs are large beaters in the midgame for 2, tombstalker can be a 5/5 for 2) in order to capitalize on the tempo advantage that the deck creates. Creatures such as goyf are the best of the best when it comes to efficiency. I was simply wondering if there were other acceptable alternatives to these creatures. Part of this question was sparked because of budget reasons (only have 2 'goyfs) but also because the interaction between goyf and tombstalker seems counterproductive. I was just looking for decent efficient creatures that could benefit from the tempo boost (budget is a minor concern, not major)
 
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quote:
Originally posted by joz:
Or...you know, not get it?


like that is a real option, lol. Must... have... mmmmmmmm foil version

 
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quote:
Originally posted by Mr.C:
That was interesting. A deck with blue and no FoWs, and a Hive Mind in the finals. Trippy.


Link to event results?

 
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Originally posted by totalkaoz:
Link to event results?

dailymtg.com

 
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I really want that bigballashotcaller impersonator to send me an email, I would string him along for ever, and ever, and ever.

And make him send first. MUAHAH!

but anyway.

This guy needs to be Darwin Awarded, forcefully.

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quote:
Originally posted by potaguitar:
Thank you for the suggestions guys. I have just begun trying to understand the interactions between the cards in TA that generates a large tempo advantage. In tournament play, the deck runs the most efficient of creatures ('goyfs are large beaters in the midgame for 2, tombstalker can be a 5/5 for 2) in order to capitalize on the tempo advantage that the deck creates. Creatures such as goyf are the best of the best when it comes to efficiency. I was simply wondering if there were other acceptable alternatives to these creatures. Part of this question was sparked because of budget reasons (only have 2 'goyfs) but also because the interaction between goyf and tombstalker seems counterproductive. I was just looking for decent efficient creatures that could benefit from the tempo boost (budget is a minor concern, not major)


Well, the tempo components are definitely the place not to skimp, since they're a big part of what make TA's creatures so good. As far as similar replacements go, you could probably create something (suboptimal but) workable with Psychatog for Tombstalker and Quirion Dryad for Tarmogoyf (the other alternative is Werebear, but it's more vulnerable to Tombstalker and Psychatog). Alternately, the fact that TA runs Stifle means you could opt for Phyrexian Dreadnought or even Hunted Horror, although they'll end up using up some of your tempo cards. Dreadnought and Dryad is a combination that would probably work relatively well. So could Vendillion Clique and Dark Confidant (if you aren't running Tombstalkers), if coupled with Goyf/Dryad/Dreadnought/something beefier. If you have Jace TMS, it could also be made to fit.

Sinkhole (if you're still operating with a list that runs it) can be replaced by Blight, but it's obviously a strictly worse replacement. You'd probably do better to replace it with something else, like Diabolic Edict, Pernicious Deed, or Spell Snare/Pierce, though. Most of the tempo, however, you want to leave untouched.

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quote:
Originally posted by pugowar:
So I just starting playing MTGOnline and I am playing mainly in the casual room playing classic.

I am running an extended legal r/g haste deck that has won about 15 of 20 matches that actually go more than 3 turns.

My question is why do i have so many people see that I am playing a deck w/ haste creatures and concede. Is there some sort of unwritten rule that I missed?

I have even had a few people insult me with something along the lines of "Learn to build a real deck child".

Thanks for any input.
Tim


The casual room is comprised almost entirely of textbook definition scrubs, you'll have to use the Tournament Practice room if you want a real game.

http://www.sirlin.net/ptw-book/intermediates-guide.html

I can basically guarantee you'll think of the players you found in the casual room if you read that.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by pugowar:
So I just starting playing MTGOnline and I am playing mainly in the casual room playing classic.

I am running an extended legal r/g haste deck that has won about 15 of 20 matches that actually go more than 3 turns.

My question is why do i have so many people see that I am playing a deck w/ haste creatures and concede. Is there some sort of unwritten rule that I missed?

I have even had a few people insult me with something along the lines of "Learn to build a real deck child".

Thanks for any input.
Tim


To most people, the definition of casual is thus:
"Deck that doesn't beat mine."

To alot of people; any deck that beats their "casual" deck, must not be a casual deck.

Frankly, in my opinion it should be:
"Any deck that costs less then $150; and doesn't have Yawgmoth's Will in it."

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I know this got asked a while ago (or not that long really) but what are some good decks to play for pauper?

I'm getting out due to a large car bill, but I want to build some pauper decks so I can bring them with me to play if we aren't cubing.

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quote:
Originally posted by joz:
To most people, the definition of casual is thus:
"Deck that doesn't beat mine."

To alot of people; any deck that beats their "casual" deck, must not be a casual deck.

Frankly, in my opinion it should be:
"Any deck that costs less then $150; and doesn't have Yawgmoth's Will in it."


I think I found the solution to this, or at least, that doesn't turn everyone off.

When I play with guys at a local store (I have only 8 competitive Legacy decks on me, usually), I usually play a random legacy deck that I'd like to test out. I always offer to lend those guys another Legacy deck, some kid liked to play Merfolk and I test out decks with him, but they often prefer to have their deck. Then if they're complaining, I beat the hell out of them with my $50 Elves deck (Yes, competitive in legacy).

I can understand you don't have much money, I was in that situation at some point, but you gotta be creative. I played a Scrambled Eggs deck for a while, until I was able to Switch to Belcher, and then ANT. One pet deck is enough, and you can keep it for a long time with Legacy.

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quote:
Originally posted by JesusChristMD:
I know this got asked a while ago (or not that long really) but what are some good decks to play for pauper?

I'm getting out due to a large car bill, but I want to build some pauper decks so I can bring them with me to play if we aren't cubing.


I suppose physical pauper is pretty close to MTGO pauper. The best deck in that format right now is Frantic Storm (UB, UBW, or UBR deck that 'kills' with temporal fissure). Other options are UR cloudpost or mono-black discard. There really arent aggro decks, because the commons creatures are terrible, but the common removal is amazing.

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quote:
Originally posted by MeddlingMage:
Providence Rhode Island!
I knew Mental Misstep was going to be HUGE in Legacy!!

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So did anyone that could read

 
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Sometimes I wonder why I ever signed up on salvation. What a bunch of non-humorous turds
 
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So, need 1 decent 1v1 deck for EDH and 1 good multiplayer deck....thoughts?


Thinking Zur, Grand Arbiter or Jhoria for 1v1, but no clue for multi

 
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quote:
Originally posted by stu55:
So, need 1 decent 1v1 deck for EDH and 1 good multiplayer deck....thoughts?


Thinking Zur, Grand Arbiter or Jhoria for 1v1, but no clue for multi


Zur is insane in 1v1, I keep a decklist of him lying around in case someone who joins my playgroup brings a cutthroat deck (partly the reason I stopped going to the card store I used to attend; too many people like that), I just sleeve it up and stomp them with it and we can all go back to playing for fun.

Jhoira's pretty strong for multiplayer too.

Uril is obviously very good in 1v1, if (like Zur) kind of boring to play

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Originally posted by 98ViperGTS:
Sometimes I wonder why I ever signed up on salvation. What a bunch of non-humorous turds

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DURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR.


Had to be said.

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Awesome! Stu is still on the boards!!

Now hwere is that Upcoming Bannings thread...

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quote:
Originally posted by Bugger:
Zur is insane in 1v1, I keep a decklist of him lying around in case someone who joins my playgroup brings a cutthroat deck (partly the reason I stopped going to the card store I used to attend; too many people like that), I just sleeve it up and stomp them with it and we can all go back to playing for fun.

Jhoira's pretty strong for multiplayer too.

Uril is obviously very good in 1v1, if (like Zur) kind of boring to play


I don't get that.
Why can't people play competitive edh?

 

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