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joz Banned	posted May 30, 2011 02:09 PM quote: Originally posted by yukizora: I don't get that. Why can't people play competitive edh? Budget concerns, trying to be social and nice and have fun, don't want to play 3 turns and shuffle, etc... __________________ Joz - can we ban Leshrac for not fixing the Chrome PM issue? Gunslinga - If I thought it would help, and if I could, I would.
Bugger Member	posted May 30, 2011 02:26 PM quote: Originally posted by joz: Budget concerns, trying to be social and nice and have fun, don't want to play 3 turns and shuffle, etc... This. Tournaments are one thing, but when someone breaks out a niv-mizzet combo - and this is the important part - repeatedly, when we're just playing casual multiplayer, yeah I'm gonna metagame hard against that. It's not so much about raw power level as it is how cutthroat you are about it. When someone ignores repeated polite requests to try out some different decks, then I build zur. Edit: to be clear, I'm talking about truly tier 1 decks like zur or jhoira or Uril - not powerful yet balanced decks like omnath, thraximundar, rafiq or sharuum. Those are just part of a normal metagame flux. Stuff like color hoses and mass removal. __________________ "I never got any respect at all. My family moved a lot when I was a kid, but I always found them." -- Rodney Dangerfield [Edited 1 times, lastly by Bugger on May 30, 2011]
joz Banned	posted May 30, 2011 03:19 PM quote: Originally posted by Bugger: This. Tournaments are one thing, but when someone breaks out a niv-mizzet combo - and this is the important part - repeatedly, when we're just playing casual multiplayer, yeah I'm gonna metagame hard against that. It's not so much about raw power level as it is how cutthroat you are about it. When someone ignores repeated polite requests to try out some different decks, then I build zur. Edit: to be clear, I'm talking about truly tier 1 decks like zur or jhoira or Uril - not powerful yet balanced decks like omnath, thraximundar, rafiq or sharuum. Those are just part of a normal metagame flux. Stuff like color hoses and mass removal. Jhoria is Tier 1 and Sharum isn't? __________________ Joz - can we ban Leshrac for not fixing the Chrome PM issue? Gunslinga - If I thought it would help, and if I could, I would.
caquaa Member	posted May 30, 2011 03:32 PM quote: Originally posted by joz: Jhoria is Tier 1 and Sharum isn't? lol, if you play sharuum you have to be super careful to not combo out. If you're actually trying to combo out, I'm sure it could happen in short order. Hes way good.
Bugger Member	posted May 30, 2011 03:34 PM quote: Originally posted by joz: Jhoria is Tier 1 and Sharum isn't? Not in my experience, no. A well-timed fracturing gust and an acquire on key pieces (like master transmuter) or their own beatsticks can wreck them. __________________ "I never got any respect at all. My family moved a lot when I was a kid, but I always found them." -- Rodney Dangerfield
joz Banned	posted May 30, 2011 03:37 PM quote: Originally posted by Bugger: Not in my experience, no. A well-timed fracturing gust and an acquire on key pieces (like master transmuter) or their own beatsticks can wreck them. False statement is fallacious and circular in nature on a very slippery slope. __________________ Joz - can we ban Leshrac for not fixing the Chrome PM issue? Gunslinga - If I thought it would help, and if I could, I would.
stu55 Member	posted May 30, 2011 04:05 PM quote: Originally posted by MeddlingMage: Awesome! Stu is still on the boards!! Now hwere is that Upcoming Bannings thread... ~MM Good luck on that one I think I might rock Zur, can I see that list Bug?
dwiz Member	posted May 30, 2011 04:06 PM quote: Originally posted by joz: 48 boosters ordered for my draft, @ 2.85 each, with $8 in shipping. $144.8 vs. ~$200 if I brought a box + 12 extras. Or you could buy 2 boxes for $176 shipped, but go ahead and brag about overpaying.
joz Banned	posted May 30, 2011 04:15 PM quote: Originally posted by dwiz: Or you could buy 2 boxes for $176 shipped, but go ahead and brag about overpaying. Can't go Ebay for them; my PayPal (I should say my BANK,) won't let me authenticate my debit card, so I can only ever use paypal if I go to a new bank (don't feel like doing that) or get paid through paypal by someone else. Sucks ; but I did also go over my budget of $130, which agian, is another thing I was very reluctant to do. Also, were did you find 2 box for $176?, cheepest I can see on ebay is $84+9.95shipping a box and 2x for 179+14.95 and 188 free shipping. __________________ Joz - can we ban Leshrac for not fixing the Chrome PM issue? Gunslinga - If I thought it would help, and if I could, I would.
AlmostGrown Member	posted May 30, 2011 04:15 PM quote: Originally posted by stu55: Good luck on that one I think I might rock Zur, can I see that list Bug? I used to play Zur a lot for 1v1, it was a LOT of fun but the games would play out the same a lot of the time. In Multiplayer if I wasn't taken out first, I'd be able to eventually get a grip on the game and slowly eliminate everyone else. I ended up dismantling it because no one wanted to play against it ever, haha. Note: I haven't really updated it since I posted the list online (9/23/10) tinyurl.com/zuredh [Edited 3 times, lastly by AlmostGrown on May 30, 2011]
Bugger Member	posted May 30, 2011 04:32 PM quote: Originally posted by stu55: Good luck on that one I think I might rock Zur, can I see that list Bug? My list is anywhere near from optimal, but key cards of the archetype include propaganda and ghostly prison (amazing in 1v1, more of an annoyance in multi), rule of law and arcane laboratory. Necropotence and diplomatic immunity also. And then just >3cmc goodstuff enchantments, as well as plenty of counters. I liked to run Steel of the Godhead with zur to keep the general damage coming and hold back a counterattack with lifegain. __________________ "I never got any respect at all. My family moved a lot when I was a kid, but I always found them." -- Rodney Dangerfield
dwiz Member	posted May 30, 2011 04:38 PM quote: Originally posted by joz: Can't go Ebay for them; my PayPal (I should say my BANK,) won't let me authenticate my debit card, so I can only ever use paypal if I go to a new bank (don't feel like doing that) or get paid through paypal by someone else. Sucks ; but I did also go over my budget of $130, which agian, is another thing I was very reluctant to do. Also, were did you find 2 box for $176?, cheepest I can see on ebay is $84+9.95shipping a box and 2x for 179+14.95 and 188 free shipping. dacardworld I guess non-premier members pay $90/box with free shipping, plus the free bonus, but still, you aren't getting searched packs, and shipping takes 2 days for me in PA. It's $88/box for premier members. They were selling deck builder's toolkits for $15 or so on there too. I bought like 90 of them. Tell em dwiz sent ya.
joz Banned	posted May 30, 2011 06:41 PM quote: Originally posted by dwiz: dacardworld I guess non-premier members pay $90/box with free shipping, plus the free bonus, but still, you aren't getting searched packs, and shipping takes 2 days for me in PA. It's $88/box for premier members. They were selling deck builder's toolkits for $15 or so on there too. I bought like 90 of them. Tell em dwiz sent ya. still out of my budget. and I already brought the box + packs, but thanks for the info. __________________ Joz - can we ban Leshrac for not fixing the Chrome PM issue? Gunslinga - If I thought it would help, and if I could, I would.
AlmostGrown Member	posted May 31, 2011 04:58 PM Playing against Familiar Storm in pauper is so boring. At least the guy is wasting his time doing useless stuff and running down his clock. __________________ send ref checks, paypal payment or any questions to the email in my profile! Serra Angel Count: 283 Nightmare Count: 109 DCI Rules Advisor PlasteredDragon - Gone but not forgotten [Edited 1 times, lastly by AlmostGrown on May 31, 2011]
I3Iood Member	posted May 31, 2011 09:06 PM Sol Ring in every commander deck. Interesting.
eXtremeEagle Member	posted May 31, 2011 09:11 PM I could see WB Sol Rings falling a bit in price because of this. __________________ The only thing necessary for evil to triumph, is for good men to do nothing.
iccarus Member	posted May 31, 2011 09:35 PM quote: Originally posted by eXtremeEagle: I could see WB Sol Rings falling a bit in price because of this. Because of supply, yes. However, I still think the old art blows away the new version even with a white border. __________________ Wisconsin - smells like dairy air!
joz Banned	posted May 31, 2011 09:42 PM Meh...$4-5 Sol Ring seems nice? but the "commander" set symbol sucks, the art for it sucks ( never liked it in Vault either,) and its an uncommon __________________ Joz - can we ban Leshrac for not fixing the Chrome PM issue? Gunslinga - If I thought it would help, and if I could, I would.
Nyarlathotep333 Member	posted May 31, 2011 11:15 PM quote: Originally posted by eXtremeEagle: I could see WB Sol Rings falling a bit in price because of this. Which is fine by me. I need to pick up a few more for some decks.
totalkaoz Member	posted May 31, 2011 11:41 PM quote: Originally posted by dwiz: [URL= I guess non-premier members pay $90/box with free shipping, plus the free bonus, but still, you aren't getting searched packs, and shipping takes 2 days for me in PA. It's $88/box for premier members. They were selling deck builder's toolkits for $15 or so on there too. I bought like 90 of them. Tell em dwiz sent ya. What would be the cheapest source for a box shipped to Canada? Ebay something or is there a store?
Mr.C Member	posted May 31, 2011 11:48 PM Just saw this post on Salvation: [quote=Boing] Hello, ladies, look at your deck, now back to mine, now back at your deck, now back to mine. Sadly, yours isn’t mine, but if you stopped using slow, weak mana myr and switched to [card]Sol Ring[/card], your mana production would be good as mine. Look down, back up, where are you? You’re at your local EDH table with the deck your deck could play like. What’s in your hand, back at me. I have it, it’s [c="Lightning Greaves"]a card with two boots to equip to that thing you love[/c]. Look again, the boots are now [card]Mana Crypt[/card]s. Anything is possible when your deck uses explosive mana staples and not that fizzly stuff. *I’m on a Skullbriar.*[/quote] __________________ #2 in posts from British Columbia! Got any Portuguese Foils? Post on my list or email me at valter.cid@gmail.com ! [Edited 1 times, lastly by Mr.C on May 31, 2011]
oneofchaos Member	posted June 01, 2011 12:02 AM quote: Originally posted by eXtremeEagle: I could see WB Sol Rings falling a bit in price because of this. Think A/B will also drop in price?
caquaa Member	posted June 01, 2011 01:10 AM quote: Originally posted by oneofchaos: Think A/B will also drop in price? nah. You could already get other BB ones if you wanted.
TimeBeing Member	posted June 01, 2011 01:27 AM quote: Originally posted by oneofchaos: Think A/B will also drop in price? Nope collectors, pimpers, and vintage players want those.
AlmostGrown Member	posted June 01, 2011 06:57 PM Any suggestions for a deck to play at GP: Pittsburgh? I know it's about 3 months away, but I should probably get started now on gathering cards and playtesting. The only requirement: No Jace, the Mind Sculptor. I was thinking Jace-less Caw-Blade, or just using Jace Beleren. Thoughts?

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