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Originally posted by -PoX-:
Let's face it, no matter what they pick, people won't be happy with it.

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Exactly. Put in good stuff and very few retailers will sell for MSRP and people will complain.

Put in bad to ok stuff and people will complain that there isn't anything good in it.

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Originally posted by stu55:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Magic-MTG-R avnica-MINT-DARK-CONFIDANT-FOIL-RUSSIAN-/280719469436?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item415c2f2b7c#ht_500wt_1057

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What the? When that link was first posted I thought hmm, seems interesting, I'd say $700-800 tops but holy crud!

On another note, I seem to have misplaced a Taiga and a Savannah. Can't find them in any of the Legacy decks and I took apart my Uril EDH deck. I have absolutely no idea where they could be and there's no way they were stolen. So confused.

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Originally posted by hilikuS:
Man I hope everyone hates it as much as you MOTLers seem to (for the most part). This one might actually go for MSRP! Although I think it's way better than the Dragons one, and that one went for bucks anyway.

You still get some cool foils out of the deal.

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Originally posted by wayne:
4 pack sealed is kinda lame

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Originally posted by gcowhsu:
I don't get the bob bandwagon and I played Junk until I sold my bobs for $25, should have held on for a couple more weeks it seems. I've even bobed turn 2 and turn 3 flipped force of will a couple times only to get like 2 free land later. So I know he's good. However, he's disappearing from Legacy and has fallen out of place in Team America. The last 3 that won didn't have confidant and ironically the Team America's that got first didn't have confidant while the ones that only top 8ed had them...

I still don't think he has a place in Modern. The reason he is good in Legacy is because of Top and the low mana curve. I expect the mana curve to be around 3 for modern and maybe even 4. Also with only Shocks you are going to be paying 2 life to not lose tempo. For my Junk I had to remove Thoughtseize and bring in Inquisition because the life loss from fetchlands, bob, and thoughtseize was just too much.

I expect a very feared play in Modern is going to be a turn 2 mystic turn 3 batterskull. Thoughtseize is the only discard card that can get both so you will have to run it, if you use 1 Black discard. The only deck that I can see running bob would be a lifegain deck because bob, shocks, and fetchlands is a LOT of self damage.

I'd put Bob at like 16 and I do agree that he was under valued for a long time. But 35 is just way too much.

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Stoneforge isn't nearly as strong in this environment.

For one, let's hope that in the new environment, aggro will exist in a competitive form (unlike Standard, Legacy, Vintage). Every aggro deck will play removal (unlike Merfolk and Goblins in Legacy, the two decks most unable to deal with Batterskull). Aggro decks will have an easier time removing a 1/2 when it isn't protected by free countermagic.

While SFM is stronger than Bitterblossom, one of the problems with playing Bitterblossom back in old-extended was the fact that it did nothing to affect the board the turn you played it. Ancient Grudge was also one of the strongest sideboard cards in that era as well and easily deals with SFM.

I think Bob is just finally getting his day in the sun price-wise. Even when he was a 4-of in Depths, he didn't see much increase. I don't think the curve matters much when you're playing Bob. He's either very good or you side him out. However, $1000 is pretty ridiculous. I don't think a Russian would ever pay that much for it.

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Originally posted by hilikuS:
Man I hope everyone hates it as much as you MOTLers seem to (for the most part). This one might actually go for MSRP! Although I think it's way better than the Dragons one, and that one went for bucks anyway.

You still get some cool foils out of the deal.

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Even the worse Dragon ones were above MSRP by a lot. But I'm crossing my fingers, too.

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Originally posted by choco man:

Even the worse Dragon ones were above MSRP by a lot. But I'm crossing my fingers, too.

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If it helps, this one is preceded by three FTV sets compared to Dragons being the first of its kind.

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Originally posted by choco man:

WOTC definitely over-focused on legends that are generals. Omnath, Sharuum, Rafiq, Oona, Kresh....much more disappointed in their approach than the product itself. I saw no point in even including anything from P3K.

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I was kind of ok with P3K, as long as they didn't print anything with horsemanship. Then they did just that, and I was like NUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU! Seriously that's such a stupid ability to reprint.

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Originally posted by stab107:
Take out kinda and you get a +1 from this guy.

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Originally posted by nderdog:
I have a Moat for a 3rd Party all packaged up and ready to go, the other party has been paid for it, I just need the guy to cover shipping and get me a little more information. I've been waiting almost 2 weeks for that now. Am I the only one that finds this very odd?

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For those that want to speculate

Blood Moon, Gifts Ungiven, Tarmogoyf, and Dragonstorm for Modern

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Originally posted by Shadow88:
I'm slowly creeping into MtG a bit again after not playing for about seven or eight years. I was reading the Modern format announcement and noticed Planeswalkers. I'm a little confused as to how they work, and would appreciate it if someone could clear it up for me. My impression is that they come into play with x number of counters (Jace has 3), and you can use an ability to add or remove counters. I'm having a little bit of difficulty finding out if you can only use one ability once per turn, any ability once per turn, etc. Any help?

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Originally posted by Shadow88:
I'm slowly creeping into MtG a bit again after not playing for about seven or eight years. I was reading the Modern format announcement and noticed Planeswalkers. I'm a little confused as to how they work, and would appreciate it if someone could clear it up for me. My impression is that they come into play with x number of counters (Jace has 3), and you can use an ability to add or remove counters. I'm having a little bit of difficulty finding out if you can only use one ability once per turn, any ability once per turn, etc. Any help?

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Planeswalkers enter the battlefield with a number of loyalty counters equal to the number on the bottom right corner. Once during your turn, at sorcery speed, you can activate one of their abilities by adding or removing loyalty counters equal to the activation cost. If it removes loyalty, you must have enough loyalty counters on there to pay the cost.

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When your opponent moves to combat phase they decide if the creature is attacking you or one of your Planeswalkers. You still choose to block however you want but any damage done removes that number of loyalty counters. ie: Serra Angel attacks Jace Beleren with 3 counters on him and White Knight attacks you. If you have no blocks then Jace "takes" 4 and would be put into the graveyard and you'd take 2 going down to whatever.

Like it makes sense but i never thought if it that way.

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Originally posted by mattw:
you can't have garruk 1.0 and garruk 2.0 out at the same time?

Like it makes sense but i never thought if it that way.

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The 'planeswalker uniqueness rule' looks at planeswalker subtypes. all three Jaces are 'Planeswalker - Jace', and as such, whenever 2 or more 'Jaces' are on the battlefield at once, they are all put into their owners graveyard.

The flavor is this: Each planeswalker card is a specific person in a specific time of their life, but there is still only one of that person, just like legendary permanents. So even if Jace gets stronger, he can't fight next to himself.

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Originally posted by mattw:
you can't have garruk 1.0 and garruk 2.0 out at the same time?

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Originally posted by mattw:
can me and an oppenent have a jace out?

I am well aware this is meant for the rulings thread but we're on this topic anyway

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