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Topic: Post for Magic Stuff part 58.
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James_Hetfield2 Member
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posted August 05, 2011 07:05 PM
  
Opened 18 M12 packs without a Mythic.Then opened a Primeval Titan followed by a Sorin Markov in the same draft. Then got passed a Flameblast Dragon. I couldn't resist putting them all in the same deck. Hope I draw land to cast them I do have a few rampant growths. edit: Well by some minor miracle I won in about 45 minutes (fastest draft ever!). M12 is fairly fast, so figured I was hurting, but was able to hold off long enough to drop my bombs. http://www.flickr.com/photos/45329373@N03/6012916553/sizes/l/in/photostream/
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Heresy19 Member
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posted August 05, 2011 07:53 PM
  
Went to the LGS to buy some shocklands that I saw the week before @ 8$ to 12$ each... the Breeding Pool was 28$, a 16$ boost in a week!!! Is this because of that Modern format??I'd rather buy real duals instead :/
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Harmless Member
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posted August 05, 2011 08:27 PM

quote: Originally posted by caquaa: nope, those are bulk cards. If you get bulk prices on them, you're doing well.
This is mean-spirited, incorrect, and just plain not helpful. Not taking into account that there are dealer's paying $0.50+ for the random ones I mentioned, how is getting the fail-safe bulk prices "doing well"? quote: Originally posted by CubFan81: Also, I know selling to a dealer implies that you might want to just get rid of it as quickly as possible, if you do try to maximize your stuff along multiple dealers you could keep track of their prices in an excel spreadsheet.Depending on how big the collection is, you would have one column down the left side with the card names, and one row across the top with each different dealer. You can put in the prices they are offering on their buylist in the corresponding intersection and then down the right side you can enter in a formula that looks to see which cell has the highest value and returns the name of the dealer at the top. That way you can see if its worth the extra shipping to mail cards to a different dealer. Obviously this doesn't work as well if you've got 1,000 cards and you just want to get rid of it now. But I thought I'd toss it out there.
This is one way to go, but I really don't want to take the time to go through 10 different dealers' buy lists. I probably don't have enough cards to spread myself so thin anyway, especially since a lot of the stuff isn't on a lot of buy lists. Condition is also a factor, as all of mine aren't in perfect shape. I was just wondering if there really was that big of a spread between the buy price and sell price. If the only way to sell everything at once is to give literally an 80% discount, why are the sell prices so high? With that big of a difference, it would almost make sense to buy the missing parts of playsets and list them on ebay. The MOTL prices can't be straight up lies, so they must be selling for those prices. But really, these are the kinds of cards that sit on people's sell lists for a year, even at 30% below MOTL price. But if I were to ask for such a huge discount when attempting to buy, I'm sure I'd get scoffed at. Surely the scenario can't actually be this: Divine Sacrament Dealer sell price = $1.50 (Card Kingdom) MOTL price = $0.89 Random seller's price = $0.70 (probably won't sell) Random buyer's price = $0.40 (probably won't buy) Actual buy price = $0.15 Obviously I just made up the numbers below MOTL, but the fact remains: sellers don't want to sell for so much less than the "going rate", therefore buyers can't buy for even less than that, so no one buys or sells anything. The reason being that either the seller with the sell list knows the price they can potentially sell for and doesn't want to take the hit, or the buyer with the buy list is met with people who have the cards but won't want to dig them out for the buyer for anything less than MOTL price. And I know this outline gets thrown off by a random dealer that's buying for $0.50, but maybe the condition isn't up to par, the buyer doesn't have enough to sell to make shipping worthwhile etc. But thinking just in the context of this one card, it makes almost no sense. Then just multiply that by a thousand. I mean, how do you make a card actually sell?
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choco man Member
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posted August 05, 2011 11:28 PM
  
quote: Originally posted by Heresy19: I'd rather buy real duals instead :/
Thats what I said when I started playing magic again during guildpact. The players at the store told me to draft the rare lands because it was like paying for your draft.
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Lord Crovax Member
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posted August 06, 2011 12:00 AM

quote: Originally posted by Heresy19: Went to the LGS to buy some shocklands that I saw the week before @ 8$ to 12$ each... the Breeding Pool was 28$, a 16$ boost in a week!!! Is this because of that Modern format??I'd rather buy real duals instead :/
Is this happening for them all, just blues ones or what? Wonder what a good price to pick them up for now would be? __________________ I shall have the souls of all who defy me. "Lord Crovax"
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caquaa Member
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posted August 06, 2011 01:24 AM
  
quote: Originally posted by Harmless: This is mean-spirited, incorrect, and just plain not helpful. Not taking into account that there are dealer's paying $0.50+ for the random ones I mentioned, how is getting the fail-safe bulk prices "doing well"?
well if you want to pay to ship that card to the store that has it on their buy list for $.50 as well as hope its in perfect condition, then go right ahead. Then the other $.80 card goes to another dealer. They don't pay shipping. Go check the sales forum and see how many people sit on huge amounts of bulk. You need the quality cards to attract buyers so they add a few pieces of the ~.50 bulk into their order. When you're saying this is the majority of your collection, yes I feel .15 ea is fine if you can get rid of it in one shot.
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stu55 Member
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posted August 06, 2011 08:51 AM

So, just got an interesting phone call from Ben while he is at Gencon. I will let him post it here but it is pretty "ripply" in its effect on markets
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iccarus Member
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posted August 06, 2011 09:20 AM
  
quote: Originally posted by stu55: So, just got an interesting phone call from Ben while he is at Gencon. I will let him post it here but it is pretty "ripply" in its effect on markets
Then tell him to post. I wanna know now  __________________ Wisconsin - smells like dairy air!I collect Granite Garoyle. Send them my way.
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Lord Crovax Member
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posted August 06, 2011 09:42 AM

quote: Originally posted by stu55: So, just got an interesting phone call from Ben while he is at Gencon. I will let him post it here but it is pretty "ripply" in its effect on markets
Ya what is it? __________________ I shall have the souls of all who defy me. "Lord Crovax"
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stu55 Member
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posted August 06, 2011 02:06 PM

Ugh, my draft deck is so awkwardBlack/Blue with like no bombs, all tempo, I think i am screwed Match 1: Beat this U/R deck with Fireball and Jace...must be nice to open cards. Must be nice to use my Mind Rot when those are the last 2 cards in his hand
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gcowhsu Member
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posted August 06, 2011 02:09 PM
  
Anyone have a feeling that Tombstalker or Tarmogoyf will be in the innistrad block? They are both great legacy cards that are very graveyard dependent. Wizards said that they will never ban Tarmogoyf because it has no special abilities. I think delve is something we will see in Innistrad and why not put in the best delve card.
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Kyosukee Member
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posted August 06, 2011 02:16 PM

quote: Originally posted by stu55: Ugh, my draft deck is so awkwardBlack/Blue with like no bombs, all tempo, I think i am screwed
Just drafted green/white. All timely reinforcements and really dumb cards. >_> went 2-1
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-PoX- Member
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posted August 06, 2011 02:49 PM

quote: Originally posted by gcowhsu: Anyone have a feeling that Tombstalker or Tarmogoyf will be in the innistrad block?
Well it would make perfect sense. So they won't do it.

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thror Member
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posted August 06, 2011 02:53 PM
  
Wotc already said 'goyf is a mistake, we arent reprinting it'. so dont even start.tombstalker, on the other hand, is a fine reprint candidate. __________________ "He fights you not because you have wronged him, but because you are there."[16:17] <@BrassMan> what do you need new tech for? [16:18] <@BrassMan> gush is unrestricted [19:01] <nderEvo> you can delete yourself
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stu55 Member
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posted August 06, 2011 03:03 PM

So Ben gave me permission to spill some info (its like spoiler season, huh?!) What he found was a PSA graded fake card. I will let you guys guess what card, what grade it got, and who was selling it.
Kinda makes me not want to buy much that is PSA graded anymore...
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WeedIan Member
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posted August 06, 2011 03:06 PM
  
quote: Originally posted by stu55: So Ben gave me permission to spill some info (its like spoiler season, huh?!) What he found was a PSA graded fake card. I will let you guys guess what card, what grade it got, and who was selling it.
Kinda makes me not want to buy much that is PSA graded anymore...
Interesting stuff. Makes PSA look bad. __________________ Member Since 03/28/2001 10000+ posts 3rd in posts in Ontario 15th in posts on MOTL Top 5 in Refs in Ontario (by people who location posted)
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Timmyhill Member
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posted August 06, 2011 03:44 PM
  
So for I don't know how long I've been trying to tell the difference between Fourth Edition and Alternate Fourth.... finally got around to getting a black light and man I should have gotten one to use sooner..Its so obvious anyways, is it possible to make a full set of Alternate Fourth? __________________ Deathlace count 18 Alpha 02 Beta 06 IE 14 CE 01 Unl 01 Rev 01 4th
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ryan2754 Member
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posted August 06, 2011 04:47 PM
  
the LGS in my area has boxes and boxes of commons. If you find it in the commons/uncommons box, it's .10/.25 respectively. Even if they have some of said card in their cases that are marked with prices (in sleeves). They say "if you do the work, you get the reward." Found 9 Priest of Titanias, 4 Daze, 4 Duress, 4 Dark of Ritual, 3 Lotus Petal, etc. in the commons bin. STOKED. The little things in life. __________________ -Schmitty 7th in Refs [191] in OH-IO (Catching up to jmedina) 2nd in Posts [5763] in OH-IO (Have a long way to go to catch Val) “If Brad Stevens is the future of coaching in college basketball, the sport is in a good place.” - Rick Pitino
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choco man Member
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posted August 06, 2011 05:14 PM
  
quote: Originally posted by ryan2754: the LGS in my area has boxes and boxes of commons. If you find it in the commons/uncommons box, it's .10/.25 respectively. Even if they have some of said card in their cases that are marked with prices (in sleeves). They say "if you do the work, you get the reward." Found 9 Priest of Titanias, 4 Daze, 4 Duress, 4 Dark of Ritual, 3 Lotus Petal, etc. in the commons bin. STOKED. The little things in life.
I went to a store out of town for the first time yesterday and found a Beta Scryb Sprite that I needed for my EDH. The owner gave me the card. Little things....
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caquaa Member
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posted August 06, 2011 05:33 PM
  
quote: Originally posted by choco man: found a Beta Scryb Sprite that I needed for my EDH
must be an interesting EDH list. quote: Originally posted by Timmyhill: So for I don't know how long I've been trying to tell the difference between Fourth Edition and Alternate Fourth.... finally got around to getting a black light and man I should have gotten one to use sooner..
from my understanding you can look at the top right corner of the A in "Magic" on the back of the card. Normal cards its very light, on alt 4th its very dark.
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Timmyhill Member
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posted August 06, 2011 05:47 PM
  
Its more like the top 1/16 of an inch on the A... but I was just never sure..at the shop I play at most of the people there can't tell unlimited and revised apart then alone confirm alter 4th.
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Thanos Member
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posted August 06, 2011 07:43 PM

http://classic.magictraders.com/ubb/Forum3/HTML/086562.htmlWhat a deal!
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airwalk Member
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posted August 06, 2011 07:52 PM

quote: Originally posted by Thanos: http://classic.magictraders.com/ubb/Forum3/HTML/086562.htmlWhat a deal!
Wow, talk about paranoid.
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Bugger Member
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posted August 06, 2011 07:56 PM

quote: Originally posted by Thanos: http://classic.magictraders.com/ubb/Forum3/HTML/086562.htmlWhat a deal!
You know, it'd be one thing if he ate all the costs for his paranoid safeguards himself, but passing it all on to the buyer like that is kind of a dick move. __________________ "I never got any respect at all. My family moved a lot when I was a kid, but I always found them." -- Rodney Dangerfield
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thulnanth Member
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posted August 06, 2011 09:43 PM

quote: Originally posted by stu55: So Ben gave me permission to spill some info (its like spoiler season, huh?!) What he found was a PSA graded fake card. I will let you guys guess what card, what grade it got, and who was selling it.
Kinda makes me not want to buy much that is PSA graded anymore...
Send it back to PSA with your reasons for determining its a fake - they'll reimburse you for the card and grading fees (per their policy). You should email Joe Orlando directly at [jorlando@collectors.com]. One of the things I like about graded cards . Of course, if this becomes a rampant thing they'll have to get better at spotting them themselves, or stop grading them (like 80's Star cards, lol). Take it easy, Jared
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