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Originally posted by Mr.C:
Is that good?

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http://tinyurl.com/3rvkjof

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Originally posted by caquaa:
http://tinyurl.com/3rvkjof

seems so

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Man, good thing I'm not selling anything worth less than $10 right now. Thanks to the speculators, I'll be able to buy a car easier

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Originally posted by choco man:
I'm pretty sure you're not a moron. But calls for reprints solely on price are moronic and selfish and belong on MTGS.

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No, not wanting cards reprinted for any reason is selfish and belongs on MTGS.

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Originally posted by skizzikmonger:
No, not wanting cards reprinted for any reason is selfish and belongs on MTGS.

Can you point out where I said I can't afford the cards I want reprinted? I can afford them. I can easily buy a set of goyfs, or Confidants and stuff or a bunch of shock duals within the next 3-6 weeks, but that's me. Newer players, and players who don't have the money to buy these cards can't. Reprinting them not only helps these players get ahold of them cheaper and easier, it also makes getting more than 3-4 cards at one time cheaper and easier. I can afford Goyfs, but I'd like to save some money so I can buy other cards at the same time.

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^^ THIS ^^

I have 2 legacy decks and could afford a full P9 too if I wanted.

Though, I'd rather take the $2k loss and have a better legacy scene.

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Originally posted by yukizora:

Though, I'd rather take the $2k loss and have a better legacy scene.

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Originally posted by Zakman86:
Misstep warps the format in much the same way that Mystical Tutor and Survival did.

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Neither really warped the format. Mystical Tutor was great in storm combo, but it was in Reanimator that it was the all-star, and it made Reanimator the #1 deck. Reanimator was still perfectly beatable, though. Mystical Tutor was axed before it really had the chance to be shown to warp anything. As for Survival... it warped nothing prior to Vengevine's printing. Really, it was Vengevine that warped the format.

Misstep is incredibly widely played at the moment, but it hasn't led to any one deck becoming dominant over all the others. It's a very good card, probably on a par with Tarmogoyf when it was printed (it's still incredibly good, but has lost a little lustre what with the format's increase in overall power level). Goyf too was incredibly widely played for many months after its printing (often in places where it had no business being played, like Merfolk or Goblins), but it didn't lead to any one deck dominating everything. As far as I'm concerned, the kind of warp that's due to wide play is far less pernicious than the kind of warp that sees one or two decks dominating everything.

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Originally posted by caquaa:
funny, all treasures did was increase the price on these cards because a dealer was buying them for wotc (SCG I think).

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What I meant was that it was a pretty cool idea for distributing the cards, and increased pack sales a ton. As I said, it was a good idea, but had its limits--one of those limits being that the cards weren't being printed, but were instead being bought from the secondary market at inflated prices. Another being that their distribution seems to have been minuscule, which is too bad.

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Originally posted by skizzikmonger:
No, not wanting cards reprinted for any reason is selfish and belongs on MTGS.

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I doubt the slight increase supply would out weigh the demand if duals/forces/goyfs/wasteland hit standard. Not to mention the new cards would be all NM, be black bordered, and could get better art.

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Originally posted by choco man:
I said reprints for the right reasons are fine. I said price is the wrong reason. So far, price is the only reason you gave.

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Originally posted by gaeacradle:
This is how I look at it:
1) Modern was created as an eternal format where WOTC can reprint any cards they want.
2) The reprints of staples are geared toward increasingly supply rather than because cards are too expensive. The cards are too expensive because the supply is low relative to the demand. However, reprinting caused cards to go down, which make people think that these reprints only happen because of the high prices.
3) That being said, the reprints do need to make sense. Goyf should not be printed. People will figure out how to maximize him as much as possible. Dark Confidant should be reprinted since it requires a whole deck to build around him, and Standard may not have enough options. Shocklands should be reprinted, because they are just mana-producing lands and are required to run multi-color decks. Onslaught fetchlands should be reprinted to increase the supply of those cards for the newer players. And on and on and on.

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Originally posted by eXtremeEagle:
IMO, Mental Misstep's format-warping isn't just creating one deck that's better than all others. Misstep's presence influences the entire meta. When you sit down to decide what deck to play or how to build, Misstep's presence looms heavily over those decisions. If you consider playing a deck that relies more on 1-drops than most, you probably think twice about it. You don't want to be playing 43-land against Zoo game two and have your Manabond Misstep'ed.

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So does Wasteland for that matter, yet I certainly wouldn't call IT a problem. However, I believe Misstep to be a calculated move by Wizards to intentionally slow down Legacy, and I think it's great. By targetting the 1-drops, it encourages players to play with higher cc cards. Does it suck getting Misstepped, yes, but no more than FoW or Daze. If you're losing to a turn 1 or 2 Misstep, you're doing something wrong.

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Originally posted by coasterdude84:
So does Wasteland for that matter, yet I certainly wouldn't call IT a problem. However, I believe Misstep to be a calculated move by Wizards to intentionally slow down Legacy, and I think it's great. By targetting the 1-drops, it encourages players to play with higher cc cards. Does it suck getting Misstepped, yes, but no more than FoW or Daze. If you're losing to a turn 1 or 2 Misstep, you're doing something wrong.

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Wasteland is exactly what I had in mind. Thanks for
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By the way, my favorite thing to Misstep? Brainstorm.

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Objectively speaking, it's probably the single best Misstep-move you can make. I love it too, and having it done to me is just awful.

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Originally posted by rats60:
I don't see Onslaught fetches being reprinted because you have the Zen ones. Everything else is spot on.

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Originally posted by gaeacradle:
as you know players are hoarding the ZEN fetches

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Originally posted by caquaa:
we need to. Trading needs a currency so when I want something you have and you want nothing I have, you can trade for a fetch. It used to be birds of paradise and wrath of god were the currency for the longest time, but things have changed. I think zen fetches are some of the most stable cards we can hope to use as trade bait.

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Originally posted by caquaa:
Trading needs a currency

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Originally posted by -PoX-:
I believe they call this currency "money".
It also has free shipping!

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Originally posted by caquaa:
and is also banned in most stores and large events w/ dealers. Sure some will operate under the table, but often times its not worth it. Also cash has a definite value, where value on cards is subjective. Its why trading can be so fun.

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step 2) Remove Fetch land

step 3) List on ebay for more then purchase price

step 4) Profit!!!!

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Also, I had ~$280 of stuff someone wants in the T/A forum but they cancel the deal because I asked them to cover paypal fees. Sound shady?

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Originally posted by caquaa:
step 1) Purchase precon deck

step 2) Remove Fetch land

step 3) List on ebay for more then purchase price

step 4) Profit!!!!

Also, I had ~$280 of stuff someone wants in the T/A forum but they cancel the deal because I asked them to cover paypal fees. Sound shady?

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Which precon decks are those?

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Wizards started making Event Decks - preconstructed decks you can play in FNM. They release two at a time and there was a red deck that included Goblin Guide (paired with an forgettable second deck) and a white deck that included Stoneforge Mystic (paired with another forgettable second deck). The most current one includes a fetchland, as well as Dismembers, Kalastria Highborn, and Bloodghast. It definitely sells sealed with the fetchland for less than $33.

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Friend1: "You have 5 cards in your graveyard, but Karador still costs 3 mana..."

Friend2: "Yes, I tapped an Orzhove Basilica; it produces BW."

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Friend3: "I play Rancor on my Plant token from Khalni Garden. That makes it a 2/1."

Friend1: "It's a 3/1."

Friend3: "No, it's a 2/1. It starts off as a 0/1."

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Friend1: "I play Green Sun's Zenith for 0, get Dryad Arbor and cast Wild Nacatl."

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Friend1: "Yes, I do. It's a forest, so it taps for a green mana."

Me: "Yes, but it's got summoning sickness."

Friend1: "It clearly states on the card it is NOT affected by summoning sickness."