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Originally posted by caquaa:
step 1) Purchase precon deck

step 2) Remove Fetch land

step 3) List on ebay for more then purchase price

step 4) Profit!!!!

Also, I had ~$280 of stuff someone wants in the T/A forum but they cancel the deal because I asked them to cover paypal fees. Sound shady?

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I did one better, got 6 decks, kept a playset of dismember, bloodghast, and all 6 fetches, sold the rest at ~38 a deck..

Basicaly got 6 fetches and a set each of dismember/bloodghast for free..

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Originally posted by Lord Crovax:
I did one better, got 6 decks, kept a playset of dismember, bloodghast, and all 6 fetches, sold the rest at ~38 a deck..

Basicaly got 6 fetches and a set each of dismember/bloodghast for free..

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That is sad and funny at the same time.

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Originally posted by Bagbokk:
How long should I wait before opening a case on eBay. Assuming I've already tried contacting the seller and haven't received a response. I know people have lives and all, but 48-72 hours should be enough time to get at least some sort of communication going?

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Originally posted by Bagbokk:
How long should I wait before opening a case on eBay. Assuming I've already tried contacting the seller and haven't received a response. I know people have lives and all, but 48-72 hours should be enough time to get at least some sort of communication going?

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Originally posted by caquaa:
just because he hasn't replied I wouldn't open a case. If its over some timely limit to receive an order, then I'd open a case easy.

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The order I haven't received has only been 11 days, but he was supposed to send priority mail + DC the day after I paid for the item--this was in the description and also in the $5 I paid for shipping. So it's a few days over the estimated/expected arrival date. I basically just asked for delivery confirmation # (and a confirmation that he's sent) twice with no response, so I'm starting to get a tiny bit suspicious.

If only I could trade my way up to the last few duals I don't have. Or a couple Plateaus, that would be cool. I'm a tad low on fodder now, though. All of a sudden, I feel like I've been trading like crazy. It's a good feeling.

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Originally posted by Goaswerfraiejen:
All of a sudden, I feel like I've been trading like crazy. It's a good feeling.

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Originally posted by Bagbokk:
The order I haven't received has only been 11 days, but he was supposed to send priority mail + DC the day after I paid for the item--this was in the description and also in the $5 I paid for shipping. So it's a few days over the estimated/expected arrival date. I basically just asked for delivery confirmation # (and a confirmation that he's sent) twice with no response, so I'm starting to get a tiny bit suspicious.

The other problem was receiving clearly damaged crap when the item was listed as New. Creased/inked/totally played stuff. So, I am "encouraged" by eBay to try and resolve the problem with the seller first, but I dunno how long I need to give. Especially since this seems like a deliberate ripping and not an honest mistake.

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You gave the benefit of a doubt and a chance to respond. Now open the case, I would. The attitude some members on eBay have where they claim everything is Near Mint is annoying.

I won two auctions at the end of last month and I haven't received either of them. I've won numerous auctions since and have received all of them. I also placed two orders Monday from online stores and have already received one of those.

this guy has a t/a.

i bid on one item, and hear nothing for like a week.

then recieve a message roughly like this:

"oh. sorry about the wait.
i expected to get buyout offers on those items, and im already trading them to someone else."

its that ok under motl rules? to make an auction, then pull items after bids have come in, since you want the buyout price?

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Originally posted by MagixDK:

might be ok, but seems like a bad practice to me

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Originally posted by MagixDK:
soo.

this guy has a t/a.

i bid on one item, and hear nothing for like a week.

then recieve a message roughly like this:

"oh. sorry about the wait.
i expected to get buyout offers on those items, and im already trading them to someone else."

its that ok under motl rules? to make an auction, then pull items after bids have come in, since you want the buyout price?

might be ok, but seems like a bad practice to me

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A trade is not binding until addresses are exchanged.

It's been discussed from time to time about making stricter rules about the T/A and making them binding agreements, but there's just too many potential problems. Posts can be edited or deleted, the "highest" bid isn't always the "best" bid (say, a ton of crap rares worth 20 points versus 2 9 point cards) or if an auction stretches on too far, people could forget about them, etc.

When I run a T/A (and I should have a new one coming up fairly soon, I think) I try to be very clear about how long I give a bid to stand, that I will take the best offer, not the highest, and either set a minimum bid or note that if bids don't go high enough, I am not bound to accept, etc., but not everyone does.

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I had a decent lot up from modo and only got 1 big which i followed through on even though i felt i was getting the low end.

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They're pretty much a joke these days because people expect to get some super deal then don't go through w/ their auction when people make fair offers. I pretty much ignore any T/A I see, big waste of time.

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Yep. Majority of T/As I see are something like:

Item's minimum bid is 1.2x its actual value.
Item's buyout is 1.5x is actual value.
Cards to bid with are 0.8x their actual value.

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Originally posted by WeedIan:
People don't bid on trade auctions anymore.

I had a decent lot up from modo and only got 1 big which i followed through on even though i felt i was getting the low end.

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Ten or so years ago we'd have awesome T/As such as: "Bayou (then $20) for as many Uncle Istvans as you can manage," or "5 crap rares for as many Uncle Istvans as you can manage," or even just fun but totally crap rares being auctioned on similar principles. Now, as Bagbokk pointed out, the desire to profit massively seems much stronger. And that's too bad, because those old auctions were the best. Maybe one of these days I'll auction off some crap rares similarly.

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Originally posted by Goaswerfraiejen:
Ten or so years ago we'd have awesome T/As such as: "Bayou (then $20) for as many Uncle Istvans as you can manage," or "5 crap rares for as many Uncle Istvans as you can manage," or even just fun but totally crap rares being auctioned on similar principles. Now, as Bagbokk pointed out, the desire to profit massively seems much stronger. And that's too bad, because those old auctions were the best. Maybe one of these days I'll auction off some crap rares similarly.

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It was the same back then with Re-packs, i remember getting 10 repacks from someone from Montreal and getting one of the big cards (a Beta Plateau) but because of everyone of them being a scam now they are banned.

I guess my list was too many specific wants at the time for my T/A as well.

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Originally posted by MasterWolf:
I1) This is a 15 man league. 2) Why a draft? This is a sealed event. 3) You tell me during the last week? So I could have just not shown up for the last 3 weeks and still made Top8.

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Originally posted by WeedIan:
It was the same back then with Re-packs, i remember getting 10 repacks from someone from Montreal and getting one of the big cards (a Beta Plateau) but because of everyone of them being a scam now they are banned.

I guess my list was too many specific wants at the time for my T/A as well.

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Yeah, I remember getting some repacks a long time ago and picking up some cool stuff. Not a Beta Plateau but I recall it being well worth the $ I spent at the time.

I didn't see your T/A, but I think by virtue of it being MTGO that it could've been an issue of demand here also.

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Originally posted by wayne:
Quite irritating when people state on their list that they would respond and then they do not.

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Originally posted by TimeBeing:
i agree with telling you/changing it at the last moment is super sketchy. But on #2 many sealed PTQ and GPT have draft Top 8.

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Yes, but those are not 8-week leagues playing the same deck.

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Originally posted by choco man:
When you guys check lists, do you also check the posts on the thread as well?

Certainly get a feel of whether it's even worth your time to post an offer once you see the types of offers they post.

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