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Topic: Post for Elder Dragon Highlander (Commander) : Part Four Nicol Bolas goes to Camp.
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WeedIan Member
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posted April 29, 2012 04:49 PM
  
Probably won't get banned. He does goes 8 and BBBB. He's good but creature removal is quite a big more rampant than enchantment removal. And pay 7 draw 7 isn's actually as good as pay 1 draw 1.__________________ Member Since 03/28/2001 12000+ posts 1st in posts in Ontario 11th in posts on MOTL 5th in Refs in Ontario Pushing to get to top 100 in MOTL Refs
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choco man Member
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posted April 29, 2012 06:37 PM
  
quote: Originally posted by WeedIan: Probably won't get banned. He does goes 8 and BBBB. He's good but creature removal is quite a big more rampant than enchantment removal. And pay 7 draw 7 isn's actually as good as pay 1 draw 1.
Well, you can't think of EDH in normal context of competitive MTG games. In EDH, being a creature is not as much of a liability as usual. There is much fewer instant speed, spot removal for creatures. Creature is also an easier to abuse card-type than Enchantment in EDH. And when you factor in that Griselbrand is legendary and can be a general, it's already easily accessed and played each game. Even with the strict 7 for 7 clause on Griselbrand, he's probably more analogous to Bargain than any other card. Having to draw in a discrete amount of cards instead of a continuous amount of cards doesn't matter than much....especially since you start at 40 life.
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WeedIan Member
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posted May 01, 2012 07:07 AM
  
quote: Originally posted by choco man: Well, you can't think of EDH in normal context of competitive MTG games. In EDH, being a creature is not as much of a liability as usual. There is much fewer instant speed, spot removal for creatures. Creature is also an easier to abuse card-type than Enchantment in EDH. And when you factor in that Griselbrand is legendary and can be a general, it's already easily accessed and played each game. Even with the strict 7 for 7 clause on Griselbrand, he's probably more analogous to Bargain than any other card. Having to draw in a discrete amount of cards instead of a continuous amount of cards doesn't matter than much....especially since you start at 40 life.
But you have to pay 7, you can't draw draw up to 10 looking for your answer you have to go draw 7, then draw another 7. Yes in situations where you are just filling your hand for the sake of getting more cards for a combo its fine but I still don't' see him getting banned unless he shows to be as busted and unfun as playing against Braids, Cabal Minion Rofellos, Llanowar Emissary Erayo, Soratami Ascendant __________________ Member Since 03/28/2001 12000+ posts 1st in posts in Ontario 11th in posts on MOTL 5th in Refs in Ontario Pushing to get to top 100 in MOTL Refs
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MAB_Rapper Member
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posted May 01, 2012 08:27 AM
  
So, for a special tourney I will be in, I need to come up with a Commander deck only using cards starting with the first letter of my first name (exclduing basic lands). I'm pretty much setteled on Esper, running Merike. Besides the obvious stuff (Mana Drain, Massacre Wurm, etc...), what would you build? __________________ MOTL's Most Likely to Play in the Pro Tour - 2007, 2008, and 2009 (My 2008 Nationals) The Official Tower Magic Facebook Page
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sammyt125 Member
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posted May 01, 2012 08:57 AM
  
quote: Originally posted by MAB_Rapper: So, for a special tourney I will be in, I need to come up with a Commander deck only using cards starting with the first letter of my first name (exclduing basic lands). I'm pretty much setteled on Esper, running Merike. Besides the obvious stuff (Mana Drain, Massacre Wurm, etc...), what would you build?
Definitely Magewright's Stone and Magister Sphinx (which probably falls under the obvious category, but whatever). The whole Magus and Myojin cycles open to you, you have March of the Machines and Mycosynth Lattice to lock lands out. I would probably just go as control as possible. Memnarch, big Mikaeus and Meloku as good finishers. Definitely a Moat if you have one, I can't imagine there is much in the way of removal when you are restricted to a specific letter. All I can think of is Mortify off the top of my head.
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fluffycow Member
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posted May 01, 2012 09:22 AM
  
Who has a good idea for a giesla deck? I keep on trying to make something work, but it keeps on getting obliterated by literally everything else
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MAB_Rapper Member
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posted May 01, 2012 11:14 AM
  
quote: Originally posted by sammyt125: Definitely Magewright's Stone and Magister Sphinx (which probably falls under the obvious category, but whatever). The whole Magus and Myojin cycles open to you, you have March of the Machines and Mycosynth Lattice to lock lands out. I would probably just go as control as possible. Memnarch, big Mikaeus and Meloku as good finishers.
I'll admit that Magewright's Stone wasn't thought of at first. But March/Mycosynth just reeks of awesomeness. __________________ MOTL's Most Likely to Play in the Pro Tour - 2007, 2008, and 2009 (My 2008 Nationals) The Official Tower Magic Facebook Page
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stacker Member
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posted May 01, 2012 11:16 AM
  
Why is foil crystal shard 10 bux, is it really that good/wanted?
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junichi Moderator
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posted May 01, 2012 11:20 AM
  
quote: Originally posted by stacker: Why is foil crystal shard 10 bux, is it really that good/wanted?
SCG has some @ $6. __________________ MOTL Fantasy NBA 2010 ChampionYou know, Hobbes, some days even my lucky rocketship underpants don't help.
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iccarus Member
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posted May 01, 2012 12:05 PM
  
quote: Originally posted by stacker: Why is foil crystal shard 10 bux, is it really that good/wanted?
Where are you seeing $10? ebay has multiple BIN listings in the $5-7 range. __________________ Wisconsin - smells like dairy air!I collect Granite Gargoyles. Send them my way.
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choco man Member
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posted May 01, 2012 03:37 PM
  
quote: Originally posted by WeedIan: Yes in situations where you are just filling your hand for the sake of getting more cards for a combo its fine but I still don't' see him getting banned unless he shows to be as busted and unfun as playing againstBraids, Cabal Minion Rofellos, Llanowar Emissary Erayo, Soratami Ascendant
Drawing your entire deck is the whole point of building a deck around Griselbrand. I think Braids/Rofellos/Erayo all beat-up Griselbrand straight up. But that really just says how strong they are, nothing really to do with GB. quote: Originally posted by MAB_Rapper: I'll admit that Magewright's Stone wasn't thought of at first. But March/Mycosynth just reeks of awesomeness.
Depending on how you want to play, you can use some of the untap auras also (Pemmin's Aura, etc.)
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MAB_Rapper Member
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posted May 01, 2012 06:42 PM
  
quote: Originally posted by choco man:
Depending on how you want to play, you can use some of the untap auras also (Pemmin's Aura, etc.)
Please re-read my original post. I can ONLY use cards beginning with the first letter of my first name. Meaning only cards beginning with 'M'. __________________ MOTL's Most Likely to Play in the Pro Tour - 2007, 2008, and 2009 (My 2008 Nationals) The Official Tower Magic Facebook Page
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FleeceItOut Member
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posted May 02, 2012 12:13 PM

what kind of sweepers should i play in GWBPernicious Deed, Wrath of God, Damnation, Decree of Pain, Planar Cleansing, Akroma's Vengeance, Austere Command, Hallowed Burial, Life's Finale too many to choose from, which ones are the most popular and how many total sweepers is good? thanks 
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MAB_Rapper Member
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posted May 02, 2012 12:40 PM
  
quote: Originally posted by FleeceItOut: what kind of sweepers should i play in GWBPernicious Deed, Wrath of God, Damnation, Decree of Pain, Planar Cleansing, Akroma's Vengeance, Austere Command, Hallowed Burial, Life's Finale too many to choose from, which ones are the most popular and how many total sweepers is good? thanks 
Don't forget Black Sun's Zenith and Mutilate (which works great with Urborg)
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rockondon Member
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posted May 02, 2012 12:52 PM
  
quote: Originally posted by MAB_Rapper: So, for a special tourney I will be in, I need to come up with a Commander deck only using cards starting with the first letter of my first name (exclduing basic lands). I'm pretty much setteled on Esper, running Merike. Besides the obvious stuff (Mana Drain, Massacre Wurm, etc...), what would you build?
Momir vig and mayael are other options. Some random M cards: Mindslaver, mind's desire, mana reflection (if you go green), mana vault, maze of ith, mimic vat, mishra's factory, magus of the abyss, myojins (various), morphling, moonlight bargain, mikaeus (nice with mindless automaton), memory jar, mind twist, mind shatter, mind over matter, mind control, mind rot, mind spring, mind stone, mind unbound. Its a good thing your name isn't Zak. __________________ |My Angels~My P9 l""|"\__, |~~My #1 Angel~~l'_|'_|_|) |(@)(@)""***|(@)(@)**|(@)
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Skwirlnutz Member
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posted May 02, 2012 01:34 PM
  
quote: Originally posted by rockondon: [QUOTE]Originally posted by MAB_Rapper: So, for a special tourney I will be in, I need to come up with a Commander deck only using cards starting with the first letter of my first name (exclduing basic lands). I'm pretty much setteled on Esper, running Merike. Besides the obvious stuff (Mana Drain, Massacre Wurm, etc...), what would you build?
Momir vig and mayael are other options. Some random M cards: Mindslaver, mind's desire, mana reflection (if you go green), mana vault, maze of ith, mimic vat, mishra's factory, magus of the abyss, myojins (various), morphling, moonlight bargain, mikaeus (nice with mindless automaton), memory jar, mind twist, mind shatter, mind over matter, mind control, mind rot, mind spring, mind stone, mind unbound. Its a good thing your name isn't Zak. [/QUOTE] Hey! Zo-Zu is a boss! (Now I would lol if his name was Xavier or something lol)
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mattw Member
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posted May 04, 2012 09:04 PM
  
I am making a Dralnu, Lich Lord deck and need a win condition, anything goes. This is what I got so far:Dralnu, Lich Lord creatures: jace's Archivist GrimGrin Dreamborn Muse Geth Glen Elendra Liege Ghastlord of Fugue Beguiler of wills Vengeful Pharaoh Undead Alchemist Phlylactery Lich Gravecrawler Geralf's Messenger Myr Battlesphere Mikaeus, the unhallowed Glen elendra archmage havengul lich echo mage maalfeld twins dread slaver Instants/sorceries Hinder blatant thievery Blue suns zenith visions of beyond time warp zombie apocalypse life's finale cackling counterpart army of the damned counterlash Enchantments/Artifacts Blasting Station Endless Ranks of the Dead Dire Underccurents Skullclamp Crucible of worlds i need a win condition and i dont care what it is. lol
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Volcanon Member
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posted May 04, 2012 10:08 PM

quote: Originally posted by mattw: I am making a Dralnu, Lich Lord deck and need a win condition, anything goes. This is what I got so far: ...
ulamog the other big eldrazi artifacts that mean you don't sack your whole board when dralnu gets hit for ten. dralnu is pretty much the "play huge spells twice" deck. So find some huge spells like time stretch, Exsanguinate, and Sorin's Drain 10. Exsanguinate with urborg and coffers out is usually like a 30-40 point life gain for you in a 4-5 man game.
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Bentiko Member
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posted May 06, 2012 12:08 AM

There a charity event (Crohn’s and Colitis Foundation) nearby my comic/card store and I want to support them. The format is 1v1 EDH using the ban list. I don't have a EDH deck and wondering which is the best general/decklist out there? I heard Giest/Uri/Sisay/Karn is popular over there....Oh yea. It's best of three with 10 cards sideboard. __________________ -Hey! Look! My nipples can cut through glass! -I watched porn with Closed Caption! -I love school, when it's over... -God, the singing is nails on a chalkboard. -They say I have A.D.D. they just don't understand me. Oh look! A squirrel!!
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caquaa Member
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posted May 06, 2012 01:29 AM
  
quote: Originally posted by Bentiko:
Oh yea. It's best of three with 10 cards sideboard.
geez, sounds like this event might take a while.
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Zakman86 Member
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posted May 06, 2012 05:20 AM
  
quote: Originally posted by choco man: Well, you can't think of EDH in normal context of competitive MTG games. In EDH, being a creature is not as much of a liability as usual. There is much fewer instant speed, spot removal for creatures. Creature is also an easier to abuse card-type than Enchantment in EDH. And when you factor in that Griselbrand is legendary and can be a general, it's already easily accessed and played each game. Even with the strict 7 for 7 clause on Griselbrand, he's probably more analogous to Bargain than any other card. Having to draw in a discrete amount of cards instead of a continuous amount of cards doesn't matter than much....especially since you start at 40 life.
Griselbrand's much better as one of the 99... Entomb/Buried Alive and Exhume/Reanimate/Necromancy/etc. __________________ Twitter | Facebook | L2 Judge
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Volcanon Member
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posted May 06, 2012 10:01 AM

quote: Originally posted by Bentiko: There a charity event (Crohn’s and Colitis Foundation) nearby my comic/card store and I want to support them. The format is 1v1 EDH using the ban list. I don't have a EDH deck and wondering which is the best general/decklist out there? I heard Giest/Uri/Sisay/Karn is popular over there....Oh yea. It's best of three with 10 cards sideboard.
Sideboard: any of the most absurd color hosers ever. Stuff like Gloom. Maybe a meltdown effect too. Anyway, I play Jhoira in 1v1 EDH using the French banlist. She's very good, and usually sweeper followed by eldrazi is GG (but make sure to stagger them, so the blue player (almost everybody is blue) can't tap mana in responose to counter.)
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choco man Member
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posted May 06, 2012 06:05 PM
  
quote: Originally posted by Zakman86: Griselbrand's much better as one of the 99... Entomb/Buried Alive and Exhume/Reanimate/Necromancy/etc.
Why bother with those cards when you can just start out with him in the command zone? It's not that difficult to hardcast him.
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Zakman86 Member
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posted May 06, 2012 06:06 PM
  
quote: Originally posted by choco man: Why bother with those cards when you can just start out with him in the command zone? It's not that difficult to hardcast him.
Because a Turn 2 Griselbrand is about 100x better than a Turn 4 Griselbrand. __________________ Twitter | Facebook | L2 Judge
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Skwirlnutz Member
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posted May 13, 2012 11:12 PM
  
Would anybody here frown upon somebody using Frankie Peanuts as a general? Him being the only Unhinged/Unglued card in the deck of course.
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