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Probably won't get banned. He does goes 8 and BBBB. He's good but creature removal is quite a big more rampant than enchantment removal. And pay 7 draw 7 isn's actually as good as pay 1 draw 1.

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Originally posted by WeedIan:
Probably won't get banned. He does goes 8 and BBBB. He's good but creature removal is quite a big more rampant than enchantment removal. And pay 7 draw 7 isn's actually as good as pay 1 draw 1.


Well, you can't think of EDH in normal context of competitive MTG games. In EDH, being a creature is not as much of a liability as usual. There is much fewer instant speed, spot removal for creatures. Creature is also an easier to abuse card-type than Enchantment in EDH. And when you factor in that Griselbrand is legendary and can be a general, it's already easily accessed and played each game.

Even with the strict 7 for 7 clause on Griselbrand, he's probably more analogous to Bargain than any other card. Having to draw in a discrete amount of cards instead of a continuous amount of cards doesn't matter than much....especially since you start at 40 life.

 
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Originally posted by choco man:
Well, you can't think of EDH in normal context of competitive MTG games. In EDH, being a creature is not as much of a liability as usual. There is much fewer instant speed, spot removal for creatures. Creature is also an easier to abuse card-type than Enchantment in EDH. And when you factor in that Griselbrand is legendary and can be a general, it's already easily accessed and played each game.

Even with the strict 7 for 7 clause on Griselbrand, he's probably more analogous to Bargain than any other card. Having to draw in a discrete amount of cards instead of a continuous amount of cards doesn't matter than much....especially since you start at 40 life.


But you have to pay 7, you can't draw draw up to 10 looking for your answer you have to go draw 7, then draw another 7.

Yes in situations where you are just filling your hand for the sake of getting more cards for a combo its fine but I still don't' see him getting banned unless he shows to be as busted and unfun as playing against

Braids, Cabal Minion

Rofellos, Llanowar Emissary

Erayo, Soratami Ascendant

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So, for a special tourney I will be in, I need to come up with a Commander deck only using cards starting with the first letter of my first name (exclduing basic lands).

I'm pretty much setteled on Esper, running Merike. Besides the obvious stuff (Mana Drain, Massacre Wurm, etc...), what would you build?

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Originally posted by MAB_Rapper:
So, for a special tourney I will be in, I need to come up with a Commander deck only using cards starting with the first letter of my first name (exclduing basic lands).

I'm pretty much setteled on Esper, running Merike. Besides the obvious stuff (Mana Drain, Massacre Wurm, etc...), what would you build?


Definitely Magewright's Stone and Magister Sphinx (which probably falls under the obvious category, but whatever).
The whole Magus and Myojin cycles open to you, you have March of the Machines and Mycosynth Lattice to lock lands out. I would probably just go as control as possible. Memnarch, big Mikaeus and Meloku as good finishers.

Definitely a Moat if you have one, I can't imagine there is much in the way of removal when you are restricted to a specific letter. All I can think of is Mortify off the top of my head.

[Edited 1 times, lastly by sammyt125 on May 01, 2012]

 
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Who has a good idea for a giesla deck? I keep on trying to make something work, but it keeps on getting obliterated by literally everything else
 
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Originally posted by sammyt125:
Definitely Magewright's Stone and Magister Sphinx (which probably falls under the obvious category, but whatever).
The whole Magus and Myojin cycles open to you, you have March of the Machines and Mycosynth Lattice to lock lands out. I would probably just go as control as possible. Memnarch, big Mikaeus and Meloku as good finishers.

I'll admit that Magewright's Stone wasn't thought of at first. But March/Mycosynth just reeks of awesomeness.

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Why is foil crystal shard 10 bux, is it really that good/wanted?
 
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Why is foil crystal shard 10 bux, is it really that good/wanted?

SCG has some @ $6.

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Why is foil crystal shard 10 bux, is it really that good/wanted?

Where are you seeing $10? ebay has multiple BIN listings in the $5-7 range.

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quote:
Originally posted by WeedIan:
Yes in situations where you are just filling your hand for the sake of getting more cards for a combo its fine but I still don't' see him getting banned unless he shows to be as busted and unfun as playing against

Braids, Cabal Minion

Rofellos, Llanowar Emissary

Erayo, Soratami Ascendant


Drawing your entire deck is the whole point of building a deck around Griselbrand.

I think Braids/Rofellos/Erayo all beat-up Griselbrand straight up. But that really just says how strong they are, nothing really to do with GB.

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Originally posted by MAB_Rapper:
I'll admit that Magewright's Stone wasn't thought of at first. But March/Mycosynth just reeks of awesomeness.

Depending on how you want to play, you can use some of the untap auras also (Pemmin's Aura, etc.)

 
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Originally posted by choco man:

Depending on how you want to play, you can use some of the untap auras also (Pemmin's Aura, etc.)


Please re-read my original post. I can ONLY use cards beginning with the first letter of my first name. Meaning only cards beginning with 'M'.

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what kind of sweepers should i play in GWB

Pernicious Deed, Wrath of God, Damnation, Decree of Pain, Planar Cleansing, Akroma's Vengeance, Austere Command, Hallowed Burial, Life's Finale

too many to choose from, which ones are the most popular and how many total sweepers is good?

thanks

 
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Originally posted by FleeceItOut:
what kind of sweepers should i play in GWB

Pernicious Deed, Wrath of God, Damnation, Decree of Pain, Planar Cleansing, Akroma's Vengeance, Austere Command, Hallowed Burial, Life's Finale

too many to choose from, which ones are the most popular and how many total sweepers is good?

thanks


Don't forget Black Sun's Zenith and Mutilate (which works great with Urborg)

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quote:
Originally posted by MAB_Rapper:
So, for a special tourney I will be in, I need to come up with a Commander deck only using cards starting with the first letter of my first name (exclduing basic lands).

I'm pretty much setteled on Esper, running Merike. Besides the obvious stuff (Mana Drain, Massacre Wurm, etc...), what would you build?


Momir vig and mayael are other options.
Some random M cards: Mindslaver, mind's desire, mana reflection (if you go green), mana vault, maze of ith, mimic vat, mishra's factory, magus of the abyss, myojins (various), morphling, moonlight bargain, mikaeus (nice with mindless automaton), memory jar, mind twist, mind shatter, mind over matter, mind control, mind rot, mind spring, mind stone, mind unbound.

Its a good thing your name isn't Zak.

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quote:
Originally posted by rockondon:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by MAB_Rapper:
So, for a special tourney I will be in, I need to come up with a Commander deck only using cards starting with the first letter of my first name (exclduing basic lands).

I'm pretty much setteled on Esper, running Merike. Besides the obvious stuff (Mana Drain, Massacre Wurm, etc...), what would you build?


Momir vig and mayael are other options.
Some random M cards: Mindslaver, mind's desire, mana reflection (if you go green), mana vault, maze of ith, mimic vat, mishra's factory, magus of the abyss, myojins (various), morphling, moonlight bargain, mikaeus (nice with mindless automaton), memory jar, mind twist, mind shatter, mind over matter, mind control, mind rot, mind spring, mind stone, mind unbound.

Its a good thing your name isn't Zak.

[/QUOTE]

Hey! Zo-Zu is a boss!


(Now I would lol if his name was Xavier or something lol)

 
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I am making a Dralnu, Lich Lord deck and need a win condition, anything goes.
This is what I got so far:

Dralnu, Lich Lord

creatures:
jace's Archivist
GrimGrin
Dreamborn Muse
Geth
Glen Elendra Liege
Ghastlord of Fugue
Beguiler of wills
Vengeful Pharaoh
Undead Alchemist
Phlylactery Lich
Gravecrawler
Geralf's Messenger
Myr Battlesphere
Mikaeus, the unhallowed
Glen elendra archmage
havengul lich
echo mage
maalfeld twins
dread slaver

Instants/sorceries
Hinder
blatant thievery
Blue suns zenith
visions of beyond
time warp
zombie apocalypse
life's finale
cackling counterpart
army of the damned
counterlash

Enchantments/Artifacts
Blasting Station
Endless Ranks of the Dead
Dire Underccurents
Skullclamp
Crucible of worlds


i need a win condition and i dont care what it is. lol

 
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quote:
Originally posted by mattw:
I am making a Dralnu, Lich Lord deck and need a win condition, anything goes.
This is what I got so far:
...

ulamog
the other big eldrazi
artifacts that mean you don't sack your whole board when dralnu gets hit for ten.
dralnu is pretty much the "play huge spells twice" deck. So find some huge spells like time stretch, Exsanguinate, and Sorin's Drain 10. Exsanguinate with urborg and coffers out is usually like a 30-40 point life gain for you in a 4-5 man game.

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There a charity event (Crohn’s and Colitis Foundation) nearby my comic/card store and I want to support them. The format is 1v1 EDH using the ban list. I don't have a EDH deck and wondering which is the best general/decklist out there? I heard Giest/Uri/Sisay/Karn is popular over there....

Oh yea. It's best of three with 10 cards sideboard.

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quote:
Originally posted by Bentiko:

Oh yea. It's best of three with 10 cards sideboard.

geez, sounds like this event might take a while.

 
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Originally posted by choco man:
Well, you can't think of EDH in normal context of competitive MTG games. In EDH, being a creature is not as much of a liability as usual. There is much fewer instant speed, spot removal for creatures. Creature is also an easier to abuse card-type than Enchantment in EDH. And when you factor in that Griselbrand is legendary and can be a general, it's already easily accessed and played each game.

Even with the strict 7 for 7 clause on Griselbrand, he's probably more analogous to Bargain than any other card. Having to draw in a discrete amount of cards instead of a continuous amount of cards doesn't matter than much....especially since you start at 40 life.


Griselbrand's much better as one of the 99... Entomb/Buried Alive and Exhume/Reanimate/Necromancy/etc.

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quote:
Originally posted by Bentiko:
There a charity event (Crohn’s and Colitis Foundation) nearby my comic/card store and I want to support them. The format is 1v1 EDH using the ban list. I don't have a EDH deck and wondering which is the best general/decklist out there? I heard Giest/Uri/Sisay/Karn is popular over there....

Oh yea. It's best of three with 10 cards sideboard.


Sideboard: any of the most absurd color hosers ever. Stuff like Gloom. Maybe a meltdown effect too.

Anyway, I play Jhoira in 1v1 EDH using the French banlist. She's very good, and usually sweeper followed by eldrazi is GG (but make sure to stagger them, so the blue player (almost everybody is blue) can't tap mana in responose to counter.)

 
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Originally posted by Zakman86:
Griselbrand's much better as one of the 99... Entomb/Buried Alive and Exhume/Reanimate/Necromancy/etc.


Why bother with those cards when you can just start out with him in the command zone? It's not that difficult to hardcast him.

 
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Originally posted by choco man:
Why bother with those cards when you can just start out with him in the command zone? It's not that difficult to hardcast him.


Because a Turn 2 Griselbrand is about 100x better than a Turn 4 Griselbrand.

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Would anybody here frown upon somebody using Frankie Peanuts as a general? Him being the only Unhinged/Unglued card in the deck of course.
 

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