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Topic: Post for Elder Dragon Highlander (Commander) : Part Four Nicol Bolas goes to Camp.
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WeedIan
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posted October 23, 2011 10:28 AM
         
Still can't decide on my theme deck but I'm still leaning towards zombies or wizards __________________
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Sovarius
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posted October 23, 2011 11:14 AM
What kinda wizards? U or U/R? Niv Mizzet?
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jaromirjagr
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posted October 23, 2011 11:15 AM
wizards are annoying.riptide labratory with venser shaper savant is abusive.Lighthouse chronologist with enough mana really drags on the game.ertai wizard adept isnt fun to play against one vs one.
So My friends trying to make a doran commander deck.What would you suggest?Some high defence critters?Was thinking of using warmongers chariot,wakestone gargoyle wall of nets etc,sunweb.
Suggestions?
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WeedIan
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posted October 23, 2011 11:32 AM
I don't know some sort of wizards.Its hard to decide on decks with all the brokeness of EDH now, i want the deck to be fair yet competitive. __________________
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Sovarius
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posted October 23, 2011 11:51 AM
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Originally posted by jaromirjagr:
So My friends trying to make a doran commander deck.What would you suggest?Some high defence critters?Was thinking of using warmongers chariot,wakestone gargoyle wall of nets etc,sunweb.
Suggestions?
Not that i'm either discouraging your friend from playing the deck, or advocating ripping another deck off... But Doran is really only played a certain way. Some of the individual cards can change, but yea... That's what you do. Play with big butts. Like Indomitable Ancients. And all of the treefolk from Lorwyn are pretty cool.
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choco man
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posted October 23, 2011 11:08 PM
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Originally posted by WeedIan:
I don't know some sort of wizards.Its hard to decide on decks with all the brokeness of EDH now, i want the deck to be fair yet competitive.
Elves or Druids can be very fun and strong. Casting multiple little creatures instead of huge bombs is a good departure from what EDH ends up being sometimes. Elves and Druids are also capable of obscene mana-ramp. You're being fair b/c you're not solely aiming to combo every game and you're competitive because you can generate resources just as fast as the broken decks. I introduced EDH to my playgroup and at first I had a dragon deck for fun and b/c everyone started out at FORTY life! I was like, "How else can I deal that much damage?" Eventually, everyone else headed down the road of combo. Every game ended with some kind of Gifts pile. I didn't like that, so I built an Azami deck from the ground up (this was before EDH was widespread) that gold-fished turn 3-5 every game to show how unfun they made it. Since then, I have focused every deck I've made to win on the attack phase and they are very competitive. When everyone else is ramping, I'm attacking and drawing cards with Edric.
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Mr.C
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posted October 23, 2011 11:26 PM
Fungus. Thelon is the ****!__________________
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Volcanon
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posted October 24, 2011 06:48 AM
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Fungus. Thelon is the ****!
Not Thelon. Then you can't use the white fungi.
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MAB_Rapper
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posted October 24, 2011 12:40 PM
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Originally posted by WeedIan:
Still can't decide on my theme deck but I'm still leaning towards zombies or wizards
I'm doing Zombies. So exactly how many Zombie lords are there? I have Undead Warchief, Lord of the Undead, Cemetary Reaper, and Death Baron (though I forgot that one at first). Am I missing anything? __________________
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yakusoku
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posted October 24, 2011 12:43 PM
Adaptive Automaton?
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WeedIan
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posted October 24, 2011 12:49 PM
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Originally posted by MAB_Rapper:
I'm doing Zombies. So exactly how many Zombie lords are there?I have Undead Warchief, Lord of the Undead, Cemetary Reaper, and Death Baron (though I forgot that one at first). Am I missing anything?
Zombie Master he doesn't pump them but they do get swampwalk and regen. __________________
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choco man
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posted October 25, 2011 09:33 AM
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Originally posted by WeedIan:
Zombie Master he doesn't pump them but they do get swampwalk and regen.
Playing zombies, sometimes having a body around is all it takes. I know a lot of people playing Diregraf Ghoul, which in EDH doesn't really do anything substantial on its own. But having an extra body around does a lot stuff in zombies (graveborn muse, shepherd of rot, corpse harvester, not to mention that zombie has a high density of lord that pump). Every black deck is playing Urborg, Tomb of Yawg and you can always piggy-back off of other players who have them. Seems like WOTC is moving away from the OG tribes (elves, goblins, merfolk)? Too bad it'll take a while for there to be enough tribal cards in the new tribes for them to be as fun as the OG tribes in EDH. Personally, I want more Oozes!
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revenger
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posted October 26, 2011 06:17 PM
ok- I am looking at a EDH deck with Geist of Saint Traft as COmmander. Where to go from there?__________________
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JackSpade
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posted October 26, 2011 11:30 PM
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Originally posted by revenger:
ok- I am looking at a EDH deck with Geist of Saint Traft as COmmander. Where to go from there?
Could play him like people play Uril, pump him up and make him unblockable. Either way making him unblockable is probably a good move so he wont die to combat dmg and gets to stick around. Could also go token generator route. Enchantments that affect all your creatures, like True Conviction, also would be very good. Is there anything in blue and/or white that can give you extra attack phases?
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caquaa
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posted October 27, 2011 12:29 AM
sundial of the infinite works okay w/ geist to keep your tokens around. He seems more like another voltron general given the built in hexproof. Every equip you can find just gets dropped on him. I wish there was something to do w/ the token on a regular basis... something like saccing to greater good or such. I'm sure there is something.
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choco man
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posted October 27, 2011 05:13 AM
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Originally posted by revenger:
ok- I am looking at a EDH deck with Geist of Saint Traft as COmmander. Where to go from there?
Steel of the Godhead, Spirit Mantle. Enlightened Tutor/Steelshaper's Gift toolboxes.
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NukeMoose
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posted October 27, 2011 08:50 AM
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Originally posted by JackSpade:
Is there anything in blue and/or white that can give you extra attack phases?
Time warp?
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Havoc Demon
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posted October 27, 2011 09:41 AM
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Originally posted by JackSpade:
Is there anything in blue and/or white that can give you extra attack phases?
Get as many Time Walks as you can, and technically Time Stop. __________________
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eXtremeEagle
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posted October 27, 2011 11:55 AM
Finally got bored enough that I decided to sit down and type up my current decklist:
Damia, Sage of Stone
Djinn of Wishes
Cytoplast Manipulator
Consecrated Sphinx
Jin-Gitaxias, Core Augur
Phyrexian Metamorph
Novijen Sages
Viral Drake
Leech Bonder
Eternal Witness
Elvish Aberration
Wirewood Channeler
Devoted Druid
Bloom Tender
Immaculate Magistrate
Viridian Joiner
Forgotten Ancient
Fertilid
Avatar of Woe
Necrotic Ooze
Sheoldred, Whispering One
Momir Vig, Simic Visionary
Experiment Kraj
Coiling Oracle
Simic Guildmage
Plaxcaster Frogling
Overbeing of Myth
Murkfiend Liege
Gilder Bairn
Oona, Queen of the Fae
Coretapper
Pila-Pala
Grim Poppet Sol Ring
Simic Signet
Golgari Signet
Dimir Signet
Darksteel Ingot
Everflowing Chalice
Mind Stone
Oblivion Stone
Darksteel Reactor
Lux Cannon
Evolution Vat
Contagion Clasp
Contagion Engine Inexorable Tide
Doubling Season
Future Sight
Rhystic Study
Pernicious Deed
Pemmin's Aura Karn Liberated
Jace Beleren
Tezzeret the Seeker
Liliana Vess Damnation
Bribery
Demonic Tutor Misdirection
Hinder
Vampiric Tutor
Spell Crumple Strip Mine
Academy Ruins
Maze of Ith
Boseiju, Who Shelters All
Tolaria West
Vesuva
Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
Rupture Spire
Command Tower
Underground Sea
Bayou
Flooded Grove
Watery Grave
Overgrown Tomb
Breeding Pool
Verdant Catacombs
Misty Rainforest
Polluted Delta
Simic Growth Chamber
Golgari Rot Farm
Dimir Aqueduct
Forest x6
Island x5
Swamp x4
This deck got started when I realized that the most powerful thing I had been doing in my previous WUB deck was playing planeswalkers. I wanted to build a deck that focused on proliferating and cards that interact well with counters. In the process I hit the sub-theme of using Experiment Kraj/Necrotic Ooze to assemble a Voltron of activated abilities from different creatures(Avatar of Woe + untaps, Grim Poppet + Devoted Druid, Bloom Tender + Vigean Graftmage, etc.) On the downside, the deck seems to rely on creatures more than most EDH decks I've seen and is very hurt by sweepers.
I do have a few cards marked down to acquire for this deck(Spike Weaver, JTMS, M12 Garruk) but other than that I'm not sure if I'm missing anything else that could be useful. __________________
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Sovarius
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posted October 27, 2011 05:24 PM
I'm planning on making a casual green beatdown deck. I'm thinking of using Azusa of course to accel to ridiculous heights. But what kind of other mono green generals are fun/neat? Or of course it could be a green hybrid card, like Rhys.
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WeedIan
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posted October 27, 2011 09:00 PM
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Originally posted by Sovarius:
I'm planning on making a casual green beatdown deck. I'm thinking of using Azusa of course to accel to ridiculous heights. But what kind of other mono green generals are fun/neat? Or of course it could be a green hybrid card, like Rhys.
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eXtremeEagle
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posted October 27, 2011 11:14 PM
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Originally posted by Sovarius:
I'm planning on making a casual green beatdown deck. I'm thinking of using Azusa of course to accel to ridiculous heights. But what kind of other mono green generals are fun/neat? Or of course it could be a green hybrid card, like Rhys.
For straight beatdown I'd probably try Kamahl Fist of Krosa or Vorinclex. My mono-green is Ezuri, but that ends up being more elf tribal than straight beatdown.
To the reply below: If you build the entire deck around him like that, then yeah he may not count. That's not the only way to build a deck with him as the general though. It's perfectly acceptable to go beatdown with creatures and just use Kamahl as a repeatable Overrun that you always have access to. Sure he has a good chance of getting killed if you play him out one turn planning to overrun the next, but you're playing green so he shouldn't be hard to get back out.
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caquaa
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posted October 27, 2011 11:16 PM
My khamal list tends to be half ramp spells, a bunch of things that double your mana, then a few cards that produce an unfair amount of tokens. Not really sure he classifies as a beat down general because of the amount of mana required to effectively use him.
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Sovarius
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posted October 29, 2011 02:36 AM
Well, i mean casual in the sense that i'm not necessarily trying to win every time i play. Doesn't require a lot of money and effort.
I considered Ezuri as well for a straight elf beatdown but i like beasts a lot.
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choco man
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posted October 29, 2011 07:21 AM
Building a life-gain theme EDH, w/g build or w/b build?
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