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Tha Gunslinga Moderator	posted November 09, 2011 01:51 PM I don't understand how the deck is that good. If you counter the Ad Nauseam and kill the general a few times, isn't it basically junk? __________________ Looking for misprinted Commander decks. Got one? Talk to me.
choco man Member	posted November 09, 2011 05:07 PM quote: Originally posted by Tha Gunslinga: I don't understand how the deck is that good. If you counter the Ad Nauseam and kill the general a few times, isn't it basically junk? It's good if you play in an environment where you can easily resolve Ad Nauseam every game.
trying2playagain Banned	posted November 10, 2011 06:39 AM Thinking about building a new fun infect ubg deck are there any commanders/generals in those colors that don't cost 6+ mana go get out
sammyt125 Member	posted November 10, 2011 07:19 AM quote: Originally posted by trying2playagain: Thinking about building a new fun infect ubg deck are there any commanders/generals in those colors that don't cost 6+ mana go get out The Mimeoplasm sounds like the guy for you, as you can rebuy your infect dudes that have died and have a huge one. Beware, though, a ton of people get really salty when it comes to infect in this format.
caquaa Member	posted November 11, 2011 01:05 AM My buddy and his wife came over to my place and after losing a bunch of games of standard, he wanted to play EDH. She didn't have a deck so he let her play one of his. SHe didn't really like it and they didn't really like my Animar deck crushign them (it likes to draw metamorph and hooverguard sweepers together way too often). We decided to build her a deck and he said she would prefer elves or tokens. Since we didn't have an ezuri (best elf general imo) I started exploring token themes. We built a Rith deck and I pushed to keep it a saproling themed deck. Well... first game she gets a few hits in with rith while we're working on our own board states. All of a sudden the last second addition of titanic ultimatium comes out. Thankfully he had a counterspell ready. Its kinda neat that a deck worth $20 a best and built within the span of 1.5 hrs can be threatening an optimized deck worth thousands. It makes this format kinda fun.... it also makes me want to build the saproling deck I wanted to build. I kinda pushed it because its an idea I've been kicking around (I just want to build it w/ karona as the general).
Devonin Member	posted November 11, 2011 07:13 AM I've found it to be the case with -most- of those dragons as generals (But much much more so with Numot) that I'd find many people using them more for their colours, and rarely playing the general out, and finding that they didn't do so well. It's almost -always- the best play to just accelerate the dragon out and get as many smashes in as you can.
choco man Member	posted November 12, 2011 03:25 PM quote: Originally posted by Devonin: I've found it to be the case with -most- of those dragons as generals (But much much more so with Numot) that I'd find many people using them more for their colours, and rarely playing the general out, and finding that they didn't do so well. It's almost -always- the best play to just accelerate the dragon out and get as many smashes in as you can. I tell new players that it's normally not a good plan to use a general just for colors. I mean, if a card is always tutored out for you the best way is to incorporate a plan around the card. Anyways, smashing with Numot is a pretty good plan. Or any other 6/6 flyer.
Zakman86 Member	posted November 22, 2011 08:29 AM I'm working on a new deck. Here's pieces of it. :-) http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showpost.php?p=7571556&postcount=747
Sovarius Member	posted December 01, 2011 06:09 AM T1: forest, sol ring T2: forest, Azusa (general), forest, forest T3: strip mine (immediately blow up one of their two lands), mana reflection T4: Vorinclex, Mold Shambler (kicked, blowing up a land again) Am i cool yet? Someone tell me stories of god hands in otherwise casual decks.
caquaa Member	posted December 01, 2011 07:08 AM quote: Originally posted by Zakman86: I'm working on a new deck. Here's pieces of it. :-) http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showpost.php?p=7571556&postcount=747 seems excessive, I like it. quote: Originally posted by Sovarius: T1: forest, sol ring T2: forest, Azusa (general), forest, forest T3: strip mine (immediately blow up one of their two lands), mana reflection T4: Vorinclex, Mold Shambler (kicked, blowing up a land again) Am i cool yet? Someone tell me stories of god hands in otherwise casual decks. this is the reason you run wasteland instead of strip mine. Blowing up lands that early is kinda a lame way to win. Mana denial in general is kinda meh. I have grand arbiter that sits in a box because of that. I think it would be more interesting for azusa to win via nature's revolt or rude awakening or such.
choco man Member	posted December 01, 2011 09:02 AM I use Edric as my primary general. Playing against the usual EDH decks with little spot-removal and massive ramp, every hand with a Boreal Druid, Llanowar Elves, or Fyndhorn Elves can feel like a god-hand. The other day, I was playing Balthor zombies and someone Leyline-Helmed me. My graveyard had 8+ zombies in it, along with a Vengeful Dead. So my Balthor @ Upkeep was enough to get the game.
Sovarius Member	posted December 01, 2011 09:11 AM I'm just talking about ridiculous hands in otherwise casual decks, guy. I just saw it and ran with it. The 4 cards even capable of destroying lands aren't meant to be tutored and abused and reused by turn 4 or anything.
Zakman86 Member	posted December 01, 2011 09:45 AM quote: Originally posted by caquaa: seems excessive, I like it. Excessive is such a rude term... I prefer being called a degenerate when it comes to EDH decks. :-)
ryan2754 Member	posted December 01, 2011 11:14 AM My best EDH win the following: I had 2 Shadow creatures in play, Vorinclex (due to some ramp), along with a devoted druid. Opponent used Nin, the Pain Artist to kill Vorinclex, netting me six cards, and he remains tapped out. I draw a Hatred, Rite of Consumption, and Quillspike. Since the countermagic player is tapped out, I thus have barely enough mana to play the Quillspike, run him to 1000/1000, rite of consumption the Nin guy, then proceed to beat with the shadow guy, Hatreding it to kill the other opponent. Suffice to say, it was the first time I pulled the quillspike combo off (because I don't use many tutor abilities, and when I do, it's usually for either Cabal Coffers or Urborg, TOY or Deed, etc.). They weren't very happy about it, but alas, they thought it was pretty crazy, considering one of the guys had never seen the quillspike combo. I might end up having to remove Hatred from the deck - people don't like that card. I wouldn't play it, but there's a guy I play with that continually tutors for Liliana of the Veil and Zombify so he can discard an eldrazi, which gets annoying game after game, so I just Hatred him so the third player can win. __________________ -Schmitty 5th in Refs [217] in OH-IO (15 behind helper monkey) 2nd in Posts [6387] in OH-IO (only 1700 behind Val) “If Brad Stevens is the future of coaching in college basketball, the sport is in a good place.” - Rick Pitino
Sovarius Member	posted December 01, 2011 11:35 AM Hatred can just come out of nowhere sometimes, even if it is really risky. I like it my vampire deck, since the whole point is suck life anyway. Hatred on turn 2 or 3 though is ridiculous.
iccarus Member	posted December 01, 2011 11:43 AM quote: Originally posted by Zakman86: Excessive is such a rude term... I prefer being called a degenerate when it comes to EDH decks. :-) Given how much you've probably dropped on pimping your decks, I think degenerate is a little off. Just plain crazy might be better. __________________ Wisconsin - smells like dairy air! I collect Granite Gargoyles. Send them my way.
LemonMeringue Member	posted December 01, 2011 11:46 AM quote: Originally posted by ryan2754: I wouldn't play it, but there's a guy I play with that continually tutors for Liliana of the Veil and Zombify so he can discard an eldrazi, which gets annoying game after game, so I just Hatred him so the third player can win. The true meaning of hatred lol
Zakman86 Member	posted December 01, 2011 12:13 PM quote: Originally posted by iccarus: Given how much you've probably dropped on pimping your decks, I think degenerate is a little off. Just plain crazy might be better. To be fair, they look amazing.
WeedIan Member	posted January 11, 2012 04:23 PM quote: Originally posted by Skwirlnutz: Since the EDH discussion thread has dissapeared I'll ask everyone here. How do you feel about Lightning Helix used in EDH? I wanna use it with a Sunforger & Mistveil Plains package, is it worth it? Yes that sounds fine as long as you have a way to tutor combo pieces (SFM,Fetches, etc) __________________ Member Since 03/28/2001 11000+ posts 1st in posts in Ontario 13th in posts on MOTL Top 5 in Refs in Ontario (by people who location posted)
FleeceItOut Member	posted January 11, 2012 05:27 PM quote: Originally posted by Zakman86: I'm working on a new deck. Here's pieces of it. :-) http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showpost.php?p=7571556&postcount=747 thanks for the inspiration on some cards for a mimeoplasm deck
Skwirlnutz Member	posted January 11, 2012 05:45 PM quote: Originally posted by WeedIan: Yes that sounds fine as long as you have a way to tutor combo pieces (SFM,Fetches, etc) Oh of course I do! The deck I have built is Red, Black and White. Oros is my General. The Black in my deck is mainly Card Draw and Tutorage. I also run Stoneforge Mystic and Stonehewer. Also considered Steelshaper's Gift (is it worth it?) I figured Lightning Helix would be a good tutor target with sunforger once I stabalize. Lightning Helix also gives me a little more "umph" when I activate Oros' ability only once so I can kill bigger creatures without going overboard. Also lets me hit White creatures. I'ma try it! When I get a chance I'll post my list of what I'm using! [Edited 2 times, lastly by Skwirlnutz on January 11, 2012]
WeedIan Member	posted January 11, 2012 07:18 PM quote: Originally posted by Skwirlnutz: Oh of course I do! The deck I have built is Red, Black and White. Oros is my General. The Black in my deck is mainly Card Draw and Tutorage. I also run Stoneforge Mystic and Stonehewer. Also considered Steelshaper's Gift (is it worth it?) I figured Lightning Helix would be a good tutor target with sunforger once I stabalize. Lightning Helix also gives me a little more "umph" when I activate Oros' ability only once so I can kill bigger creatures without going overboard. Also lets me hit White creatures. I'ma try it! When I get a chance I'll post my list of what I'm using! I say play it, tutoring for broken equipment(Jitte,Swords) seems good __________________ Member Since 03/28/2001 11000+ posts 1st in posts in Ontario 13th in posts on MOTL Top 5 in Refs in Ontario (by people who location posted)
FleeceItOut Member	posted January 13, 2012 09:26 AM building mimeoplasm self mill, not sure how many win conditions i want, so far: living death, lab maniac, and necrotic ooze....other suggestions?
rockondon Member	posted January 13, 2012 09:38 AM quote: Originally posted by Sovarius: T1: forest, sol ring T2: forest, Azusa (general), forest, forest T3: strip mine (immediately blow up one of their two lands), mana reflection T4: Vorinclex, Mold Shambler (kicked, blowing up a land again) Am i cool yet? Someone tell me stories of god hands in otherwise casual decks. Recently I had Turn 1: island, mana crypt, grim monolith Turn 2: island, power artifact on the grim monolith (infinite mana), citanul flute, memory jar, swiftfoot boots. Used the memory jar - found a couple more artifacts to cast. Used the citanul flute to find and cast blightsteel colossus, equipped it with the swiftfoot boots and attacked. __________________ \|My Angels~My P9 l""\|"\__, \|~~My #1 Angel~~l'_\|'_\|_\|) \|(@)(@)""*\|(@)(@)\|(@)
MAB_Rapper Member	posted January 13, 2012 09:49 AM Not sure what turn, but I saw Darksteel Forge + Mycosnyth Lattice + Disk... __________________ MOTL's Most Likely to Play in the Pro Tour - 2007, 2008, and 2009 (My Nationals) The Official Tower Magic Facebook Page

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