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Originally posted by WeedIan:
Yes that sounds fine as long as you have a way to tutor combo pieces (SFM,Fetches, etc)

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And Junktroller also recycles cards from the yard.

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Originally posted by rockondon:
Recently I had
Turn 1: island, mana crypt, grim monolith
Turn 2: island, power artifact on the grim monolith (infinite mana), citanul flute, memory jar, swiftfoot boots. Used the memory jar - found a couple more artifacts to cast. Used the citanul flute to find and cast blightsteel colossus, equipped it with the swiftfoot boots and attacked.

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Oh god. What kind of deck is that?
That's a good way to win. I'm putting Blightsteel into a Sharuum combo deck as an alternative to combo-ing (along with other fatties, tons of mana rocks, and March of the Machines/Karn). I play monolith/power artifact which is mostly for Stroke and BSZenith.
What kind of deck is that you're playing?

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Originally posted by MAB_Rapper:
Not sure what turn, but I saw Darksteel Forge + Mycosnyth Lattice + Disk...

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1st turn sol ring, 2nd turn Rofellos, 3rd turn i tried to drop Vorniclex but it got countered

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Originally posted by Sovarius:
Oh god. What kind of deck is that?
That's a good way to win. I'm putting Blightsteel into a Sharuum combo deck as an alternative to combo-ing (along with other fatties, tons of mana rocks, and March of the Machines/Karn). I play monolith/power artifact which is mostly for Stroke and BSZenith.
What kind of deck is that you're playing?

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I didn't actually kill my opponent that turn. The guys I play with made a house rule that it takes 20 poison to kill you. So I spread the love with blightsteel colossus by hitting a few players before killing any of them. Usually after he hits the board I start cloning him with phyrexian metamorph, sculpting steel, or phantasmal image. The deck was almost pure combo when I first designed it but that wasn't much fun so I diluted it with funner, less combo-ish cards. It can still go very crazy very quickly though.

The deck makes infinite mana many different ways so I took out the stroke/zenith cards and replaced them with utility cards like citanul flute and planar portal so its more fun. I try to keep the Arcum hate to a minimum.

I have a few decks that can win through either combos or beatdown (Arcum Dagsson, Oona queen of the fae, Captain Sisay - the last 2 are still under construction) and I love having different ways to defeat my opponents. I'm just curious if people think that it is against the spirit of the game or anything when someone plays a combo.

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Originally posted by rockondon:
Just out of curiosity, how do you guys feel about combo decks?

I have a few decks that can win through either combos or beatdown (Arcum Dagsson, Oona queen of the fae, Captain Sisay - the last 2 are still under construction) and I love having different ways to defeat my opponents. I'm just curious if people think that it is against the spirit of the game or anything when someone plays a combo.

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Its fine as long as you keep the game interactive, if its just you playing magic its not fun at all.

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Originally posted by rockondon:
Just out of curiosity, how do you guys feel about combo decks?

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It really depends on how soon you combo out. I highly dislike going through the process of starting up a game, everyone resolving mulligans, and getting like two turns...only to have someone combo out the whole table.

I also very much dislike people who take a 15 minute turn to get it done.

I'm less upset about it like an hour into the game after control has gone all around the board and people have had a chance to put up a fight. I hate late game "blow up the world without a way to win" moves far more than I hate late game combos.

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Originally posted by WeedIan:
Its fine as long as you keep the game interactive, if its just you playing magic its not fun at all.

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I run a few combos is my decks.

In my BG Skullbriar I run the Quillspike/Devoted Druid/Rite of Consumption and have Transmute capabilities, but I rarely get to play it. A lot of the times I'd rather tutor for Pernicious Deed or land-finders to get Cabal Coffers/Urborg TOY to do some crazy +1/+1 counter shananigans (X casting cost creatures).

In my Lin Sivvi FOIL Rebel, I have Sac outlets + Comes into play triggers + Karmic Guide + Reveillark, but yeah, deck wins without it.

In my Zedruu I have Sac Outlets + Revillark + Karmic Guide + Mirror Entity + Body Double to get infinite loops of bringing back a beefy creature (Such as Palinchron for infinite mana or Bogardan Hellkite for infinite damage).

All in all, yes I play a few mini-combos, but the deck can sure as hell do a lot without the combos.

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Originally posted by rockondon:
Just out of curiosity, how do you guys feel about combo decks?

I have a few decks that can win through either combos or beatdown (Arcum Dagsson, Oona queen of the fae, Captain Sisay - the last 2 are still under construction) and I love having different ways to defeat my opponents. I'm just curious if people think that it is against the spirit of the game or anything when someone plays a combo.

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Originally posted by Skwirlnutz:
Take em all apart and build Progenitus and use nothing but Vanilla Creatures. No Island for youuuu.

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I think that Ghave, Guru of Spores will be an interesting general when Dark Ascension comes out since he works so well with the 'undying' mechanic. Gravecrawler could be good for him too.

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Originally posted by drizzt_2004:
I had a good 4 player game yesterday with my Jhoira Deck, I cast a Time Spiral with a Thought Reflection and Consecrated Sphink out and drew about 75 cards. With Reliquary Tower out and was able to Rite of Replication with kicker a Obliterator and proceeded to use various time walk effects to kill the everyone else in about 4 turns.

And I wonder why the Jhoira player gets a big target on their back

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Originally posted by rockondon:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Skwirlnutz:
Take em all apart and build Progenitus and use nothing but Vanilla Creatures. No Island for youuuu.

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Okay. But all those colors will tutor for hermit druid so I can flip over my library and kill everybody with any number of cheesy combos. I hope that's okay.

I think that Ghave, Guru of Spores will be an interesting general when Dark Ascension comes out since he works so well with the 'undying' mechanic. Gravecrawler could be good for him too.

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Originally posted by Skwirlnutz:

No. No combo for you. Just sit there and smile with your Leatherback Baloth.

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Huge unweidly combos are okay. Or ones that end the game on like turn 10 and do it immediately. Boring lame combos or semi-hard locks are dumb.

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Stasis is my favorite magic card ever and I still would not put it in EDH even against someone i wanted to make angry.

So far I have:
Hide/Seek -Good card to stop combos or get rid of an artifact.
Wild Ricochet -This card comes out of nowhere when I activate Sunforger, People dont expect this.
Master Warcraft -Same as Wild Ricochet.
Into The Core -Just good.
Return To Dust -Just good.

I also may consider:
Crib Swap -I like this card but with me running Necrotic Sliver I think it may come to haunt me.
Swords To Plowshares/Path To Exile/Condemn

Out of all I like Crib Swap the best I just gotta make sure I dont play Necrotic Sliver until the token is gone.

As for targets, Silence/Orim's Chant are also really good at stopping the combo department. Something Like Angel's Grace is good for keeping you alive.

EDIT: Typing on phones is hard.

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Originally posted by iccarus:
Mistveil Plains and Reito Lantern to recycle those toolbox spells is also important.

As for targets, Silence/Orim's Chant are also really good at stopping the combo deparment. Something Like Agnel's Grace is good for keeping you alive.

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Oh wow I forgot all about the Lantern, Thanks!

One last question; Can I still kick the Chant if I use Sunforger to grab it?

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Originally posted by Skwirlnutz:
So Im focusing my Oros EDH deck around a Voltron/Sunforger Toolbox build, anybody got any suggestions for the toolbox?

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Originally posted by rockondon:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Skwirlnutz:
So Im focusing my Oros EDH deck around a Voltron/Sunforger Toolbox build, anybody got any suggestions for the toolbox?

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Originally posted by Skwirlnutz:
Oh wow I forgot all about the Lantern, Thanks!

One last question; Can I still kick the Chant if I use Sunforger to grab it?

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