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TimeBeing
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posted November 03, 2011 09:23 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for TimeBeing Click Here to Email TimeBeing Send a private message to TimeBeing Click to send TimeBeing an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by AlmostGrown:
The guy who runs my LGS says that you can use any Event deck for FNM, as long as you play it without altering it. Can I get a confirm/deny for this? He says that this comes from wizards, but I think he's mixing up what they said about the Stoneforge event deck with all of them.

He is mixed up. It still needs to be standard legal.

 
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I have this odd desire to play a deck with 4x of Heartless Summoning , Rune-Scarred Demon, Phantasmal Image, and Phyrexian Metamorph.

T2: Heartless
T5: Rune-Scarred searching up Phantasmal
T6: Phantasmal for U as a copy of RSD searching up another Phantasmal/Metamorph, repeat 5x

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quote:
Originally posted by eXtremeEagle:
I have this odd desire to play a deck with 4x of Heartless Summoning , Rune-Scarred Demon, Phantasmal Image, and Phyrexian Metamorph.

T2: Heartless
T5: Rune-Scarred searching up Phantasmal
T6: Phantasmal for U as a copy of RSD searching up another Phantasmal/Metamorph, repeat 5x


I did that in Heartless Pod (GB Birthing Pod for standard). I podded into RSD and tutored a Metamorph and then got 2 more metamorphs, all of them being Rune Scarred Demon. I won that game

 
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quote:
Originally posted by AlmostGrown:
I did that in Heartless Pod (GB Birthing Pod for standard). I podded into RSD and tutored a Metamorph and then got 2 more metamorphs, all of them being Rune Scarred Demon. I won that game

Oooh... List?

 
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quote:
Originally posted by eXtremeEagle:
I have this odd desire to play a deck with 4x of Heartless Summoning , Rune-Scarred Demon, Phantasmal Image, and Phyrexian Metamorph.

T2: Heartless
T5: Rune-Scarred searching up Phantasmal
T6: Phantasmal for U as a copy of RSD searching up another Phantasmal/Metamorph, repeat 5x


I do that in my solar flare deck, without the heartless summoning. If the opponent manages to kill them all, cast a Sun Titan and bounce all the phantasmals back.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by TimeBeing:
He is mixed up. It still needs to be standard legal.

Assuming that the FNM there is Standard, yes. I guess he would be correct if it was an Extended FNM, though.

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Well the FNM is standard, so I am correct in saying that even though there was that announcement about the SFM event deck being playable as long as you make no changes, you can no longer play it because worldwake is no longer standard?
 
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quote:
Originally posted by MasterWolf:
Oooh... List?

I based my list off of this one:

http://sales.starcitygames.com//deckdatabase/displaydeck.php?DeckID=41190

The only difference was that I ended up moving Tree of Redemption into the SB and splashing white for Elesh Norn.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by AlmostGrown:
Well the FNM is standard, so I am correct in saying that even though there was that announcement about the SFM event deck being playable as long as you make no changes, you can no longer play it because worldwake is no longer standard?

Correct. You can't play worldwake cards in standard anymore.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by eXtremeEagle:
I have this odd desire to play a deck with 4x of Heartless Summoning , Rune-Scarred Demon, Phantasmal Image, and Phyrexian Metamorph.

T2: Heartless
T5: Rune-Scarred searching up Phantasmal
T6: Phantasmal for U as a copy of RSD searching up another Phantasmal/Metamorph, repeat 5x


i know a group who are playing this kind of list at SCG Vegas. curious to see how it goes.

5 4/4 flyers and a counter spell to back them up sound good to me.

 
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Finally made a find I can brag about a little bit...

Bought a box of bulk Mirrodin uncommons off a kid locally and after going through it found a playset of sleeved Grim Monoliths. Not too bad for $20.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by nderdog:
Assuming that the FNM there is Standard, yes. I guess he would be correct if it was an Extended FNM, though.


I don't think so. The excpetion was made specific to Standard format.

http://www.wizards.com/magic/magazine/article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/feature/148a

 
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So I mailed a few letters/packages out the other day. I ended up under charging on one by ~$6, another by ~$1, then over charging on 2 by about $.25. Since I don't exactly like being on the losing end of postage, but I'm required to set it in advance on ebay and typically set it in advance for MOTL, I've been considering buying a postal scale. I'd be able to get some aprox shipping costs and at least get closer on most stuff. Does anyone use any of those cheap scales that are on ebay?

something like this one:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/270707382274

just looking for a cheap option as local stores carry ones that run $25+, but I'm not looking for anything all that fancy.

Thoughts or opinions?

It ended up being over $11 to ship a FTV set to the UK... bleh!

[Edited 1 times, lastly by caquaa on November 04, 2011]

 
psilence6k
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quote:
Originally posted by caquaa:
So I mailed a few letters/packages out the other day. I ended up under charging on one by ~$6, another by ~$1, then over charging on 2 by about $.25. Since I don't exactly like being on the losing end of postage, but I'm required to set it in advance on ebay and typically set it in advance for MOTL, I've been considering buying a postal scale. I'd be able to get some aprox shipping costs and at least get closer on most stuff. Does anyone use any of those cheap scales that are on ebay?

something like this one:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/270707382274

just looking for a cheap option as local stores carry ones that run $25+, but I'm not looking for anything all that fancy.

Thoughts or opinions?

It ended up being over $11 to ship a FTV set to the UK... bleh!


I just paid $43 to ship 2x Foil Goyf to Singapore the other week so I feel your paid. I charged $0...

 
choco man
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I don't think that postage scales are necessary. But there are very steep % increase charges between 1-2-3 oz. for international, not so much for domestic.
 
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I haven't used scales, but you just need to know weight in ounces, so just see if you can make sure whatever you buy has good reviews for accuracy. Going by # of cards will give you a decent estimate often times, but that doesn't account for things like FTV sets.
 
psilence6k
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quote:
Originally posted by stu55:
I really hate it when people assume that because Hasbro is doing something to make money...they are a business, that is what they are suppose to do. The people that have to make happy are their Stock holders in the end and they have a far larger market to appease than just Magic players.

I doubt the people that are complaining are investors of Hasbro so honestly, they are just probably whining that they aren't getting more free stuff.


The thing is that there is a fine line between making profits and alienating the people who buy your products. If no one is buying your products because they don't feel they're getting any value out of it / the programs affiliated with it, they will switch to something they feel DOES give them value for their money / time.

WotC is starting to walk a VERY fine line between their give and take, and people ARE starting to notice. First it was the PP system and the cancelation of the MPR program, now they're basically dismantling the Pro Tour. We have to remember that different people play the game for different reasons, and those that play competitively are going to have a negative reaction to this announcement and be completely justified in doing so.

On another note, I almost NEVER see casual players investing any money in the game, which is in contrast to what WotC seems to believe. Yea, they pimp their EDH decks or whatever, but how many of them do you see rushing out and investing heavily in Liliana before States so that they can show up with a fine tuned Solar Flare deck and not go 0-X? I typically see the casual players build a deck and play it throughout the season until they HAVE to change because their cards have rotated. Meanwhile, it's the competitive players in my region who keep up with results, alter decks based on the meta, build NEW decks that should prey on the winning decks and actually BUY the crads that they need to be competitive.

From THIS standpoint, WotC is only standing to LOSE money as the competitive players start to care less about major tournament so don;t need to invest in the high priced Mythincs to "win" anymore... because there's nothing left to win! :*(

 
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Fluffycow's cube question made me think about the artworks of Balance.

How do you guys rate the artworks of Balance? I don't mind the FTV version that I use right now, but noticed that the judge Balance isn't $50+ like other DCI cards and considering getting one. Wished the A/B vers. was cheaper since that's my favorite.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by caquaa:
So I mailed a few letters/packages out the other day. I ended up under charging on one by ~$6, another by ~$1, then over charging on 2 by about $.25. Since I don't exactly like being on the losing end of postage, but I'm required to set it in advance on ebay and typically set it in advance for MOTL, I've been considering buying a postal scale. I'd be able to get some aprox shipping costs and at least get closer on most stuff. Does anyone use any of those cheap scales that are on ebay?

something like this one:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/270707382274

just looking for a cheap option as local stores carry ones that run $25+, but I'm not looking for anything all that fancy.

Thoughts or opinions?

It ended up being over $11 to ship a FTV set to the UK... bleh!



If I think I might go over a bubble envelop, I just bounce it up to Priority shipping. Then you get to send them in a hard box, get a flat rate across many different sizes, and you can add delivery confirmation. Not to mention its a bit quicker delivery as well.

I've never had someone complain about $5 priority shipping.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by psilence6k:
On another note, I almost NEVER see casual players investing any money in the game, which is in contrast to what WotC seems to believe. Yea, they pimp their EDH decks or whatever, but how many of them do you see rushing out and investing heavily in Liliana before States so that they can show up with a fine tuned Solar Flare deck and not go 0-X? I typically see the casual players build a deck and play it throughout the season until they HAVE to change because their cards have rotated. Meanwhile, it's the competitive players in my region who keep up with results, alter decks based on the meta, build NEW decks that should prey on the winning decks and actually BUY the crads that they need to be competitive.

I find the opposite, actually. I've sold over a case and a half of Innistrad locally, and we have a hard time getting 8 for an FNM. I'm the only person here who has ever attended an event more competitive than a Game Day. On the other hand, I get most of my deck needs on the secondary market, much like I assume most competitive players do. Seems casual is fairly important to wotc financially.

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quote:
Originally posted by psilence6k:
On another note, I almost NEVER see casual players investing any money in the game, which is in contrast to what WotC seems to believe. Yea, they pimp their EDH decks or whatever, but how many of them do you see rushing out and investing heavily in Liliana before States so that they can show up with a fine tuned Solar Flare deck and not go 0-X? I typically see the casual players build a deck and play it throughout the season until they HAVE to change because their cards have rotated. Meanwhile, it's the competitive players in my region who keep up with results, alter decks based on the meta, build NEW decks that should prey on the winning decks and actually BUY the crads that they need to be competitive.

WOTC would prefer a casual player buy a few packs then a tournament player buy a liliana. They don't directly make money from the secondary market. Casual players are also more likely to be polarized by the cards themselves. We had some casual come into the shop, buy a ajani vs bolas, open it, then give the store owner the ajani and bolas because "he didn't like planeswalkers or foils". Casual players can be an odd bunch, but they do buy packs like crazy. Most tournament players only crack packs for drafts.

quote:
Originally posted by choco man:
How do you guys rate the artworks of Balance?

the judge balance is the best looking one, and its foil! Mark Poole's art isn't all that great really. It may be iconic, but I wouldn't hang it on my wall. The FTV one? no thanks.

quote:
Originally posted by Pyrenus:

If I think I might go over a bubble envelop, I just bounce it up to Priority shipping. Then you get to send them in a hard box, get a flat rate across many different sizes, and you can add delivery confirmation. Not to mention its a bit quicker delivery as well.

I've never had someone complain about $5 priority shipping.


its mostly international that I take a hit on. In the US for a bubble mailer I pay 1.71, if the bubble mailer becomes so thick that it increases cost or I have to switch to something like a rate rate box, then the person is purchasing enough for me not to care about a few bucks.

 
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Competitive players do have an impact, though. The number of cases that a LGS/retailer/Star City will buy to crack for singles depends a lot on the demand for the cards. Wizards will see a lot more boxes sold if SCG gets 800 preorders for Liliana of the Veil opposed to 120 preorders.

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quote:
Originally posted by nderdog:
I find the opposite, actually. I've sold over a case and a half of Innistrad locally, and we have a hard time getting 8 for an FNM. I'm the only person here who has ever attended an event more competitive than a Game Day. On the other hand, I get most of my deck needs on the secondary market, much like I assume most competitive players do. Seems casual is fairly important to wotc financially.



Gotta agree with Jeff on this Carl, even when i was in London i would see Casual players come in and buy random stuff and NEVER play in sanctioned things. I see if moreso here in Waterloo, i know some guys i work with who have bought at least a case if not more to get cards for their decks and draft at the kitchen table.

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quote:
Originally posted by WeedIan:
Gotta agree with Jeff on this Carl, even when i was in London i would see Casual players come in and buy random stuff and NEVER play in sanctioned things. I see if moreso here in Waterloo, i know some guys i work with who have bought at least a case if not more to get cards for their decks and draft at the kitchen table.

Maybe I'm wearing blinders since I really only show up for tournaments, since that's where all the people who want to at least play in a "sanctioned" tournament are. Admittedly, I basically stopped playing MTG except casually when they announced PWP and started going strictly into trading / selling. Now I run a U/G Splinterfright / Cagebreaker deck since I don't care about rating at all anymore, and I USED to be competitive... :S

Maybe I was off with that portion of my rant, but the rest of it should stay true!

 
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What's a decent way to fill your graveyard in reanimator builds? Or mill.
Or if someone could point to a deck that does so.
I'm talking about EDH, so even some bad ones are usable.
 

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