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Originally posted by Volcanon:
Simple economics.

One group of buyers offers guaranteed delivery for $3. Another offers guaranteed delivery for $15. Which one would you choose? Obviously the $3 one. Other factors come into play, like better availability and lower prices here, but all things equal the eBay seller wins.

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Yup. eBay pool of both buyers and sellers are much larger than MOTL, so both sides basically have their pick of who they want to buy from/sell to.

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Originally posted by AlmostGrown:
I want to host a (relatively) big Legacy event for one of my local stores. Any suggestions? The current format I'm looking at is a 1K. Prizes would be:
1st - $500
2nd - $250
3rd - $175
4th - $75
5-8th - $25

I was also looking into getting duals instead, of doing cash would interfere with gambling laws.

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Originally posted by Heresy19:
1K is always better for the store (because it's usually store credit )

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Originally posted by Bagbokk:
Yup. eBay pool of both buyers and sellers are much larger than MOTL, so both sides basically have their pick of who they want to buy from/sell to.

There are probably a lot of eBay sellers that have never read the buyer protection policy and haven't figured out quite yet that with $3 shipping option, buyers can get free stuff and all they have to do is tell the seller they never received, and don't know that the seller is actually responsible if mail does get lost for some reason if they didn't get tracking on the package. Once either of these happens the first time, that seller will stop selling internationally altogether or require registered on everything too. Buyers won't be significantly affected because likely some other sellers come along and offer the $3 shipping option.

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Originally posted by Mr.C:
It always irks me how people, when posting buylists, always offer less than MOTL. Are people that dumb to realize that MOTL is essentially wholesale values? Sheesh, if you want cards, at least offer MOTL price.

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Except MOTL prices are skewed by ebay BINS (and possibly even auctions that end without being bought), and don't account for the 15% in fees the seller doesn't actually get. So I would say MOTL is 10-15% high.

Now, posting SCG buylist prices, that's different.

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Originally posted by thror:
and don't account for the 15% in fees the seller doesn't actually get.

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Right, but the store price includes cc-fees as well. The buyer still has to pay that price, so it's fair to use it as a value.

Spellkeeper tournaments and pretty much all the LGS around here have store credit as prize instead of $. It's also easier with the # of players because if we don't get 1000$ with the entering fees, 1000$ in store credit is pretty much 700-800$.

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Originally posted by Mr.C:
It always irks me how people, when posting buylists, always offer less than MOTL. Are people that dumb to realize that MOTL is essentially wholesale values? Sheesh, if you want cards, at least offer MOTL price.

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Originally posted by keywacat:
It always irks me how people, when reading buylists, do not understand the posted price is an invitation to negotiation. Sheesh, if you want to sell cards, at least offer me what I am looking and name your prices. Then we will come to terms or not.

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Negotiating is often an unnecessary waste of time. Not everyone is open to it, and it's often more trouble than it's worth. The only exception are hard-to-find cards (say, Japanese foils, P9 and the like). People who offer lowball prices on easier to find stuff generally do so because they don't want to spend the fair market price for the card.

That said, I don't think it's insulting to offer less than MOTL prices when it's an accurate representation of eBay values. If something sells for $100 on eBay, the seller actually gets about $88 of it after fees. If this translates to MOTL guide having the card at $100, then seller would gain $12 if they sold it here for full value instead of eBay. On the other hand, when the buyer buys something off eBay, he would have to pay the full $100, he may not get cards in stated condition because eBay sellers suck, etc.

The point is, both sides can benefit from NOT making this transaction through eBay. Therefore, it makes sense for sellers to price their cards, or buyers to price their buy prices, at a price somewhere in the middle. The buyer can pay a little less than they would on eBay, while the seller would end up with a net amount higher than they would get selling on eBay. This benefits both parties, not just one or the other. The $12 that the seller gains from selling that $100 item here, why (from a buyer's POV) should the seller be the only one to benefit from selling here? Offer $94, both sides gain $6 out of the transaction (seller gets a net amount of $6 more; buyer pays $6 less).

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There's nothing wrong with setting your prices at or above MOTL value (as this is what buyers would have to pay elsewhere), but there's nothing wrong or insulting about offering less than that, either. As long as it's not significantly less.[/B]

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Originally posted by wayne:
Hmmm, the winner of GP San Diego is wearing a matt k cards T-shirt.

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link?

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Originally posted by Thanos:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Reweave-Sig ned-EX-X1-Champions-MTG-Magic-Cards-See-Scans-/120813511544?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c210be378

I don't even...

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As a personal preference, that's how I view most signed cards in general. So signatures have some added closed loops, dotted i's, and crossed t's.

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link?

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Mothership

1cc

Ghoulcaller's Chant

2cc

Alter's Reap
Think Twice
Snapcaster Mage
Vampire Interloper
Walking Corpse

3cc

Corpse Lunge
2xDissipate
3xArmored Skaab
2xGhoulraiser
Stitched Drake
Markov Partician

4cc

Grasp of Phantoms
Moam of the Undead
Bloodline Keeper
Makeshift Mauler

5cc

Stormkirk Patrol
Sturmgeist

6

Geistcatcher's Rig

9 island
8 Swamp

SB

Endless Rankes of the Dead...was the final cut
Rotting Fengsnake
Brainweevil
Pitchburn Devils
Charmbreaker Devils(p1p1)
Sulfur Falls

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Originally posted by Heresy19:
Guess what I'll be playing next week at the local Legacy tournament :P

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Might explain Xiahou Dun not being in the FTV set. Flusterstorm seems like a pretty good choice as well.

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Originally posted by CubFan81:
New Judge Foils...Flusterstorm and Xiahou Dun.

Might explain Xiahou Dun not being in the FTV set. Flusterstorm seems like a pretty good choice as well.

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Originally posted by CubFan81:
New Judge Foils...Flusterstorm and Xiahou Dun.

Might explain Xiahou Dun not being in the FTV set. Flusterstorm seems like a pretty good choice as well.

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Huzzah. Glad I didn't pick one up. Are they giving them to judges at Worlds?

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