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Topic: The Post for Magic Stuff, volume 68
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Phyrexian Angel Member
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posted March 21, 2012 10:33 PM

quote: Originally posted by ryan2754: is there a way to find what cards from Urza's Saga were eventually FOILED?I know Serra Avatar, Elvish Lyrist, Lightning Dragon, Rewind, Stroke of Genius, and Gaea's Cradle off the top of my head. I know the Lands were too...what are these going for now? [Each] Also, what is the history behing Euro, Arena and Guru Lands? AKA what was the purpose, how were they given out, etc.? Which are worth more (relative to the Saga FOILS). How would you be able to determine the difference between a Mercadian Masques ARENA foil and regular booster FOIL land? Looking at pictures, now I know why the Euro lands are so expensive...they're beautiful. Looked them all up: http://wiki.mtgsalvation.com/article/Promotional_cards
DAMNIT. Now this makes me want to seriously get one of each APAC, GURU, EURO land as well as all the old bordered FOIL Arena Lands. UGH. Damn you, Magic and your Promo cards. Not to mention, totally wanna get the old school language Prerelease Cards like Raging Kavu, Glory, Fungal Shambler, etc. that were printed in stuff like Latin..SO COOL.
Also Skittering Skirge and Albino Troll. APAC lands packs were given for promotion, kind of like the "buy a box" promotion today. Not sure about Euros, but I guess they are the same purpose. Guru lands were given to store for something like "Guru program" which were rewards for stores getting new players. Guru lands worth much more than Saga foils. Prices for APAC/Euro varies, depends on the art.
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caquaa Member
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posted March 21, 2012 10:52 PM
  
quote: Originally posted by Phyrexian Angel: Also Skittering Skirge and Albino Troll.
pouncing jaguar, karn, ... I'm sure theres a list available somewhere.quote: Originally posted by Phyrexian Angel: Guru lands were given to store for something like "Guru program" which were rewards for stores getting new players.
not quite correct. Stores weren't involved in the guru program. People signed up to be gurus then obtained points by recruiting other gurus or teaching players how to play. Once you got enough points you were mailed guru lands and some boosters from wotc directly. there is a link for each type here: http://www.magiclibrarities.net/rarities.html
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Phyrexian Angel Member
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posted March 21, 2012 11:12 PM

quote: Originally posted by caquaa: not quite correct. Stores weren't involved in the guru program. People signed up to be gurus then obtained points by recruiting other gurus or teaching players how to play. some boosters from wotc directly. Once you got enough points you were mailed guru lands and there is a link for each type here: http://www.magiclibrarities.net/rarities.html
I see. I thought the stores were the one who participate since most of the Guru lands I got were from store owners (who got tons of Guru lands back then).
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caquaa Member
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posted March 21, 2012 11:17 PM
  
quote: Originally posted by Phyrexian Angel: I see. I thought the stores were the one who participate since most of the Guru lands I got were from store owners (who got tons of Guru lands back then).
I got quite a few sets from wotc myself. The program was flawed however, you received 1 point for teaching someone how to play and 5 points for signing someone else up to become a guru. Good system in theory, but in practice all the players just signed each other up and very few people were taught to play.
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stu55 Member
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posted March 22, 2012 04:23 PM

Newest Acquisition  http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e16/stu55/scan0003.jpg
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Thanos Member
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posted March 22, 2012 04:24 PM

quote: Originally posted by stu55: Newest Acquisition  http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e16/stu55/scan0003.jpg
Nice.
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Lord Crovax Member
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posted March 22, 2012 06:00 PM

Hmm...http://www.ebay.com/itm/2011-MTG-1-1-NEW-PHYREXIA-FOIL-KARN-LIBERATED-1-PSA-GEM-MINT-10-/110830153844?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19cdfdf074 Seems people still like PSA __________________ I shall have the souls of all who defy me. "Lord Crovax"
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GenghisTom Member
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posted March 22, 2012 06:59 PM

what ever happened to gunslinga's sale list? Its been a couple years since ive been on...
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caquaa Member
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posted March 22, 2012 07:41 PM
  
quote: Originally posted by Lord Crovax: Hmm...http://www.ebay.com/itm/2011-MT G-1-1-NEW-PHYREXIA-FOIL-KARN-LIBERATED-1-PSA-GEM-MINT-10-/110830153844?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19cdfdf074 Seems people still like PSA
be curious to see if it gets relisted here shortly. That price just isn't realistic for such a card.
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Tha Gunslinga Moderator
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posted March 23, 2012 04:38 AM
  
quote: Originally posted by GenghisTom: what ever happened to gunslinga's sale list? Its been a couple years since ive been on...
It'll be back eventually, I just haven't had time to deal with it. __________________ Looking for misprinted Commander decks. Got one? Talk to me.
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GenghisTom Member
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posted March 23, 2012 07:46 AM

quote: Originally posted by Tha Gunslinga: It'll be back eventually, I just haven't had time to deal with it.
I see... I'll keep my eyes open
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choco man Member
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posted March 23, 2012 05:07 PM
  
Bad Trader: Derek Lucente (Dbawlz); dereklucente@yahoo.comI've let every single non-sending MOTL'er off the hook before. When I posted that I did that, a moderator mentioned that I should absolutely BTA every time so the community knows which MOTL'ers do it. If dbawlz doesn't get placed on the Confirmed Bad Traders list, what is the point of posting this kind of stuff on BTA?
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caquaa Member
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posted March 23, 2012 05:13 PM
  
quote: Originally posted by choco man: If dbawlz doesn't get placed on the Confirmed Bad Traders list, what is the point of posting this kind of stuff on BTA?
confirmed bad traders list is for rippers. BTA forum is for letting potential future trading partners know. They also get karma smacked so if it continues to happen they end up banned.
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junichi Moderator
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posted March 23, 2012 05:14 PM
  
quote: Originally posted by choco man: Bad Trader: Derek Lucente (Dbawlz); dereklucente@yahoo.comI've let every single non-sending MOTL'er off the hook before. When I posted that I did that, a moderator mentioned that I should absolutely BTA every time so the community knows which MOTL'ers do it. If dbawlz doesn't get placed on the Confirmed Bad Traders list, what is the point of posting this kind of stuff on BTA?
He was smacked. What else do you want the mods to do?
__________________ MOTL Fantasy NBA 2010 ChampionYou know, Hobbes, some days even my lucky rocketship underpants don't help.
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choco man Member
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posted March 23, 2012 05:27 PM
  
quote: Originally posted by junichi: He was smacked. What else do you want the mods to do?
What else do I want the mods to do? I want the mods to ban the guy. BTA was on for 3 weeks, no response. Jaz mentions that dude doesn't want to trade anymore (if that's the case, banning him seems okay) because of a shady deal? Well, when we finalized our deal he had 0 refs. Now has 2 refs. Just didn't sent to me, huh? Checking the emails, he mentioned that he already sent out on the emails.....so, how does that work? What does a smack really do? He has practically no refs and would have sent first on all trades with or without that BTA on forum.
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junichi Moderator
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posted March 23, 2012 05:33 PM
  
quote: Originally posted by choco man: What else do I want the mods to do? I want the mods to ban the guy.BTA was on for 3 weeks, no response. Jaz mentions that dude doesn't want to trade anymore (if that's the case, banning him seems okay) because of a shady deal? Well, when we finalized our deal he had 0 refs. Now has 2 refs. Just didn't sent to me, huh? Checking the emails, he mentioned that he already sent out on the emails.....so, how does that work? What does a smack really do? He has practically no refs and would have sent first on all trades with or without that BTA on forum.
Ban him because he backed out of a deal? He got what he deserved, a karma smack. If this trend continues, then he will be banned from having too many karma smacks.
__________________ MOTL Fantasy NBA 2010 ChampionYou know, Hobbes, some days even my lucky rocketship underpants don't help.
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choco man Member
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posted March 23, 2012 05:39 PM
  
quote: Originally posted by junichi: Ban him because he backed out of a deal? He got what he deserved, a karma smack. If this trend continues, then he will be banned from having too many karma smacks.
Well, in my mind he did more than just back out a deal. He also completely lied about sending out. And this was after he asked for a simul-send. I'm over the fact that he's not going to get banned. But you did ask me what else I wanted the mods to do? He was completely unresponsive to my emails (for 5 weeks) and the MOTL BTA (for 3 weeks). Banning seems fitting to me. Not just breaking the rules, but completely ignoring them all together. If someone is just going to completely ignore MOTL rules, why should they have another opportunity to receive another smack?
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WeedIan Member
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posted March 23, 2012 05:42 PM
  
quote: Originally posted by choco man: Well, in my mind he did more than just back out a deal. He also completely lied about sending out. And this was after he asked for a simul-send. I'm over the fact that he's not going to get banned. But you did ask me what else I wanted the mods to do? He was completely unresponsive to my emails (for 5 weeks) and the MOTL BTA (for 3 weeks). Banning seems fitting to me. Not just breaking the rules, but completely ignoring them all together. If someone is just going to completely ignore MOTL rules, why should they have another opportunity to receive another smack?
If you want people banned for every little issue go to Salvation where you can be banned for being a "spam user" without providing proof. The BTA process takes time because people are volunteers. Its not like anyone is making money off this site __________________ Member Since 03/28/2001 11000+ posts 1st in posts in Ontario 13th in posts on MOTL 5th in Refs in Ontario Pushing to get to top 100 in MOTL Refs
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junichi Moderator
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posted March 23, 2012 05:47 PM
  
quote: Originally posted by choco man: Well, in my mind he did more than just back out a deal. He also completely lied about sending out. And this was after he asked for a simul-send. I'm over the fact that he's not going to get banned. But you did ask me what else I wanted the mods to do? He was completely unresponsive to my emails (for 5 weeks) and the MOTL BTA (for 3 weeks). Banning seems fitting to me. Not just breaking the rules, but completely ignoring them all together. If someone is just going to completely ignore MOTL rules, why should they have another opportunity to receive another smack?
Aside from ripping, people deserve to have a 2nd chance to learn from their mistakes. If MOTL had a first strike and you are out policy, a lot of us won't be here chatting.
__________________ MOTL Fantasy NBA 2010 ChampionYou know, Hobbes, some days even my lucky rocketship underpants don't help.
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Bagbokk Member
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posted March 23, 2012 05:54 PM

quote: Originally posted by junichi: Aside from ripping, people deserve to have a 2nd chance to learn from their mistakes. If MOTL had a first strike and you are out policy, a lot of us won't be here chatting.
I agree with this. I'm not saying you being ****ed off over what he did isn't justified, but I don't think something like that warrants a ban where the only reason we go straight from no karma smacks to bans is for ripping (or a returning banned member, but that's not really the same thing).
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hilikuS Member
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posted March 23, 2012 06:45 PM
  
Any of you guys use cardshark.com? Is there any way to dispute a feedback/should I bother? I'm trying to slowly work my way up on their site as far as the sort of ranking system they have. Dude gives me less than a perfect score for not putting the cards in sleeves, despite making sure they're secured in a toploader which was taped tightly shut. In a bubble mailer, and with DC which he didn't even pay for.Definitely first world problems, but I was just wondering if anyone knew what was up.
[Edited 1 times, lastly by hilikuS on March 23, 2012]
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dfitzg88 Member
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posted March 23, 2012 08:36 PM
  
http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/other/03232012aDoes anyone know why this was posted? It seems a little out of the blue, and these posts are usually following up on a specific situation. Just curious if anyone has any knowledge on the topic.
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mattw Member
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posted March 24, 2012 12:12 AM
  
Wow, you people would be disgusted at the "draft" my two friends and I just did. haha
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caquaa Member
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posted March 24, 2012 03:21 AM
  
quote: Originally posted by hilikuS: Any of you guys use cardshark.com? Is there any way to dispute a feedback/should I bother? I'm trying to slowly work my way up on their site as far as the sort of ranking system they have. Dude gives me less than a perfect score for not putting the cards in sleeves, despite making sure they're secured in a toploader which was taped tightly shut. In a bubble mailer, and with DC which he didn't even pay for.Definitely first world problems, but I was just wondering if anyone knew what was up.
meh, you should use sleeves inside toploaders. It isn't like you're new to online trading.
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yakusoku Member
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posted March 24, 2012 03:47 AM

quote: Originally posted by dfitzg88: http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/other/03232012aDoes anyone know why this was posted? It seems a little out of the blue, and these posts are usually following up on a specific situation. Just curious if anyone has any knowledge on the topic.
Apparently, at GP Indy, a player - Gerald Freas (aka dr8sides on Twitter) - managed to harass several players via Twitter. He'd take pictures and post rude comments about players. He was suspended for 18 months. Allegedly, he had done this before and was asked to stop, but kept going at GP Indy, so Wizards stepped in, and Helene Bergeot put out a statement to make it clear that they do NOT condone this kind of action and people will be punished accordingly.
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